Reasons for creating volunteer civilian review police board

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Reasons for creating volunteer civilian review police board

Postby fruhmenschen » Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:52 pm

a volunteer civilian review police board with subpoena powers
would set and enforce standards of performance for law enforcement
personnel in every community.

Tell us what you think of this idea and any success you have had
implementing this model.

the board would be comprised of volunteers with the board changed every 3 years.

One goal of the board is to allow the voters and taxpayers to determine
how they want to meet their needs for safety and what standards are needed to implement
this model.


The volunteer civilian review board would hire .
and fire people who work providing for the community"s safety needs.
This would be based on the standards of performance set by the board.
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Re: Reasons for creating volunteer civilian review police bo

Postby fruhmenschen » Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:53 pm

How would the board handle this?


couple of reads about FBI agents and the use
of deadly force




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http://m.hanover.wickedlocal.com/articl ... /151219576

Massachusetts FBI agent Callahan publishes
new book. Thr book makes a perfect xmas gift
in Feguson Missouri.

NEWS
Former FBI agent pens book about legal use of deadly force


Former FBI agent John Michael Callahan published his second book in August about the use of deadly force as a law enforcement officer. Wicked Local Staff Photo / Kaila Braley


Posted Dec 12, 2015 at 4:53 AM

“Officers sign up to protect and serve, not to die. They have families, and the right to go home at night,” former FBI agent John Michael Callahan.

Callahan, now retired, published his second book about deadly force in August titled “Lethal Force and the Objectively Reasonable Officer.” The book chronicles numerous investigations, court cases and scientific studies dealing



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Did Memphis police officer Earl Clark use the required
amount of deadly force when he assassinated Martin Luther King
for FBI Director Hoover?


Loyd Jowers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyd_Jowers
Jowers said that he hired Memphis police Lieutenant Earl Clark to fire the fatal ... in the assassination of my husband, Martin Luther King, Jr... the Mafia, local, ...
How the Government Killed Martin Luther King, Jr.
readersupportednews.org/.../16784-how-the-government-killed-martin-luth...
Apr 3, 2013 - While Dr. King was in Memphis, he was under open or eye-to-eye federal ... Young and Dexter King, Jowers says after he heard the shot, Lt. Earl Clark, ... The corporate media says it was James Earl Ray who shot MLK, and ...


Martin Luther King Assassination Conspiracy Exposed in Memphis ...
www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/Unspeakable/MLKconExp.html
King saw the Memphis sanitation workers' strike as the beginning of a nonviolent ..... said he received at his back door from Earl Clark right after the shooting.


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http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/m ... /30619475/



Family of Muslim leader killed by FBI in Dearborn seeks answers

Jul 27, 2015







More than five years after the FBI's shooting death of a Muslim leader in Dearborn, his family is still trying to find out what happened and the names of those who shot him during a sting operation, maintaining there was a cover-up by federal authorities.

This month, the family asked the U.S. Supreme Court to hear its case.

Imam Luqman Ameen Abdullah, 53, of Detroit, was struck 20 times on October 28, 2009, inside a Dearborn warehouse as part of an undercover counterterrorism operation investigating what the FBI said were his extremist views and trafficking in stolen goods.

Supporters of Abdullah and some civil rights advocates called it overkill in the war on terrorism while the FBI said its agents acted properly in shooting him dead. Involving surveillance and informants, the case has drawn widespread attention in the debate over how to balance civil liberties and national security after the Sept. 11 attacks.

From the archives: Exam doesn't clarify who shot FBI dog during raid

According to the FBI, Abdullah opened fire on the FBI's police dog that their agents had sicced on him after he refused to surrender, prompting four federal agents to return fire with 20 bullets that killed the leader of a Detroit mosque. Three investigations - by Dearborn Police, Michigan Attorney General Mike Cox and the U.S. Dept. of Justice - said the FBI did not violate any laws in the shooting.

But in a series of legal filings over the past two years that came out of a 2012 lawsuit, attorneys representing the estate of Abdullah challenge that view, saying that Abdullah was not armed and never fired at agents.They said in an amended complaint that the Detroit FBI "engaged in a concerted effort to manipulate and conceal the evidence concerning the brutal death of Abdullah."

U.S. District Court Judge Lawrence Paul Zatkoff and the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit in Ohio both have dismissed the lawsuit, saying that it failed to specify who they are suing within the three-year statue of limitations. They ruled that the FBI didn't conceal what happened.

In February, a three-judge panel with the Sixth Circuit Court agreed with Zatkoff's ruling last year, and in April the court denied a request for a full hearing.

From the archives: Friends of slain imam remember his generosity

In response, Abdullah's estate filed a petition on July 9th with the U.S. Supreme Court, asking the high court to consider their case.

Abdullah's family, which includes his wife and ten children, said the case was dismissed on minor technicalities and that they should have their day in court.

"The family has not been able to get to the truth of what exactly happened," said Shereef Akeel, co-counsel for the estate of Abdullah. "We never had an opportunity to find out...The court is the best place to find out, but the court doors have been closed to the Luqman family to determine what happened. We want to open the doors."

Akeel said that with renewed attention over the past year to the deaths of African-Americans by law enforcement, there should a thorough review of what happened to Abdullah, who was African-American.

The petition filed with the U.S. Supreme Court, called a Writ of Certiorari, is "our last shot," Akeel added. "This is like a Hail Mary pass. Hopefully, finally, the family can get some answers."

One of Abdullah's sons, Omar Regan, said: "We've been fighting in Court for over 5 years and the Government keeps covering it up."

Lena Masri, co-counsel and a staff attorney with the Michigan chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), said the "Sixth Circuit Court's ruling is extremely concerning as it allows the government to cover up the facts and identities of those involved in a wrongful killing, and to ultimately escape liability."

Masri had filed FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) requests with local, state, and federal officials to get the names of the four agents, but was denied. There were 66 agents in total who took part in the take down of Abdullah and his associates.

Detroit FBI spokesman Supervisory Special Agent David Porter and U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan Barbara McQuade, whose office is representing the FBI in the lawsuit, both declined comment.

In their court responses, the U.S. Attorney's office in Detroit has denied that the FBI concealed anything in the shooting and was open about what happened in press releases and in the media.

They also say that attorneys for Abdullah's family had failed to specify the names of FBI agents within three years after the Oct. 2009 shooting.

The original lawsuit, filed on Oct. 26, 2012, named "Unidentified FBI Agents" as defendants. In April 2013, it was amended to specify Special Agent in Charge of the Detroit FBI Andrew Arena, who led the operation against Abdullah, George Nikolopoulos, head of the FBI Detroit's SWAT team, and four unidentified FBI agents. The U.S. Attorney's office said that was past the three-year statue of limitations after the 2009 shooting.

Akeel replied that the three-year time limit should not have started until after they found out in 2012 a different version of events through a colleague of Abdullah, Muhammad Abdul Salaam, which gave them a cause of action.

The lawsuit was based on an affidavit of Salaam, who was inside the warehouse at the time of the take-down. Salaam testified that Abdullah wasn't armed and didn't fire at agents.

Salaam said the agents shot Abdullah while he was on his back, trying to protect himself from the police dog tearing his face.

The FBI says Salaam was a close associate of Abdullah and had five previous felony convictions. He was known as "the gun man" for his large stash of weapons, the FBI said in 2009.

Family of Abdullah allege the FBI concealed evidence after the shooting

In the amended complaint filed in April 2013, attorneys for Abdullah's family allege that under orders from the head of the Detroit FBI at the time, Arena, the body of Abdullah was moved after the shooting, a semi-automatic handgun was removed, and local investigators were denied access to the crime scene.

Akeel said Abdullah's fingerprints were never found on any gun at the scene.

"Local police crime scene investigators and medical personnel were denied entry into the warehouse to assess the crime scene and provide medical treatment to Abdullah," wrote Abdullah's attorneys. "An alleged semi‐automatic handgun was allegedly removed from the crime scene and taken to FBI Headquarters. Accordingly,the alleged semi‐automatic handgun was unavailable for forensic analysis by local crime scene investigators."

"The body of Abdullah was already moved to a different location inside the warehouse before local crime scene investigators and the medical examiner were allowed to gain access to the crime scene," read the complaint.

In an additional document filed the next month, attorneys for Abdullah's family said "not only did the FBI withhold evidence, but the FBI concocted a story to the public with a media blitz to blame Abdullah for his own horribly painful death by claiming that Abdullah brandished a handgun and fired in the direction of the FBI Agents."

In their legal response, Assistant U.S. Attorney Theresa Urbanic said that the FBI does "not concede" that the FBI concealed evidence at the crime scene. But even if that were true, she wrote, "these allegations would show only concealment of evidence, not concealment of a cause of action."

The U.S. Attorney's office in Detroit point to a press release the FBI put out shortly after the 2009 shooting to show it was not concealing what happened, as well as news articles and a documentary about the shooting by professors at Michigan State University that featured an interview with Arena.

In the documentary, Arena said that he gave the order to release the dog on Abdullah, whom the FBI said had refused to put his hands up and surrender. Arena added that Abdullah had previously threatened violence against law enforcement.

Urbanic also said that Abdullah's family took too long to get information from Salaam. Salaam, who was sent to prison for his role in dealing in stolen goods along with Abdullah, was released from prison in October 2011, and could have been interviewed earlier, she said.

Other Muslim-Americans killed in encounters with FBI since Detroit shooting

Since Abdullah's case, two other Muslim-Americans have been killed in encounters with the FBI. In May 2013, Ibragim Todashev, 27, was killed by a FBI agent when they were questioning him; the FBI said that Todahev, interviewed in connection with one of the Boston Marathon attackers, became violent and lunged at the agent with a pole, according to The Boston Globe.



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The FBI Deemed Agents Faultless in 150 Shootings - The New York ...
www.nytimes.com/.../in-150-shootings-th ... less.htm...
Jun 18, 2013 - In most of the shootings, the F.B.I.'s internal investigation was the only official ... the records show, deemed the shooting to have been justified.
FBI 'justified' in every shooting since 1993 - report — RT USA - RT.com
https://www.rt.com/usa/fbi-justified-ev ... eport-035/
Jun 21, 2013 - It's standard operating procedure for the FBI to conduct an internal investigation when an agent shoots a suspect. Questions are being raised, ...
FBI — Expanded Homicide Data Table 14
https://www.fbi.gov/.../expanded_homici ... able_hom...
Year, Total, Total firearms, Handguns, Rifles, Shotguns, Firearms, type not stated, Knives or cutting instruments, Other dangerous weapons, Personal weapons ...
The FBI's Nearly Unbelievable Record of "Justified" Shootings - Slate
www.slate.com/.../ibragim_todashev_shoo ... njustifi...
Jun 19, 2013 - We're still waiting for the FBI to finish its internal investigation into exactly what happened in an Orlando apartment last month, when an FBI
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Re: Reasons for creating volunteer civilian review police bo

Postby tapitsbo » Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:54 pm

Actually, my family has experience of something like this in Toronto; predictably the board will become staffed by police agents and coercion/intimidation will come into play.
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Re: Reasons for creating volunteer civilian review police bo

Postby fruhmenschen » Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:44 pm

The civilian review board would be volunteer and be replaced every 3 years on a staggered basis.
No one with ties to the criminal justice system would be allowed to serve on the board

One reason for the creation of this board is to have voters and taxpayers educate themselves about crime while creating and enforcing standards of performance for the safety needs of the community



also see


Today's very special FBI agent in our neighborhood
is Jimmie " the assistant FBI director" Kallstrom.

Jimmie has been a very bad boy.
Everything you need to know about
very special agent Kallstrom begins with
his involvement in the coverup of TWA Flight
800 explosion over Long Island.

see


http://www.americanswhotellthetruth.org ... -borjesson



The FBI Bureau of Manufacturing Consent and
Public Relations FOX News just released this
infomercial for very special former FBI Assistant
Director James Kallstrom.

whaddya say we let god sort out the truth


couple of stories about Jimmy very special agent Kallstrom

Watch the documentary by former Cop Sanders
first



Silenced: TWA 800 and the Subversion of Justice (2001) - YouTube
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http://www.newshounds.us/former_fbi_off ... son_121315




FBI Official: The President Is Very Interested In Flooding This Country With People From The Middle East For Some Reason
December 14, 2015 ·


James Kallstrom, a former assistant FBI Director, blew the “Obama’s a secret Muslim” dog whistle on Fox News last night. There wasn’t a peep of challenge from host Jeanine Pirro.

In a discussion about terrorism on Justice with Judge Jeanine, Kalstrom announced, “I think Donald Trump had it largely right” about barring Muslims from entering the country. “I mean, we need to take a pause because it’s a joke,” Kallstrom said about our vetting process. “We don’t have any idea who these people are.”

Host Jeanine Pirro interrupted to make the criticism more about President Obama. “But the president knows this,” Pirro said pointedly.

And Bingo!

KALLSTROM: The president is very interested in flooding this country with people from the Middle East for some reason.

PIRRO: Do you believe that?

KALLSTROM: Well, for some reason. I’m not gonna say what the reason is but there’s some reason why this is happening. And why aren’t the Christians coming into this country? And why aren’t some of the others, you know, who are being massacred, not that the Muslims aren’t being massacred, they are. And we have a lot of great Muslims. Look at all the Muslims on the New York PD…

Pirro has an unhinged hatred for Obama, so it’s no surprise that she would not challenge this outrageous statement.

Watch it below, from the December 13 Justice wit



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FBI lawyer helped destroy
TWA Flight 800

http://www.cashill.com/twa800/top_fbi_lawyer.htm

In August 2003, a former U.S. attorney in the Clinton administration, Valerie Caproni, was appointed to the top legal job within the Federal Bureau of Investigation – that of general counsel. As such, she provides legal advice to the director and other FBI officials and, among other duties, coordinates the defense of civil actions filed against the United States for the official acts of FBI employees.

"This is the coolest job in the world," the 5-foot-tall Caproni recently told Robert Vosper, author of a 4,000-word profile on Caproni in the Corporate Legal Times titled, "The Chosen One." "I can be doing national security stuff in the morning, a Patriot Act issue after lunch and an employment problem in the afternoon."

Caproni, however, has a clouded legal past that provides an unfortunate study in how the national security apparatus can function if placed in the wrong hands. Working in the Clinton Justice Department, Caproni did not need the Patriot Act to go awry.

The co-author of this article, James Sanders, learned about Caproni early in his investigation into the crash of TWA Flight 800. Within days of the crash, it was she who illegally took the investigation away from the National Transportation Safety Board and gave it to the FBI.

The relevant law [Title 49, section 1131(a)(2)] reads as follows: "An investigation by the Board ... has priority over any investigation by another department, agency or instrumentality of the United States Government." The "Board" in question is the National Transportation Safety Board. In other words, a "parallel" FBI investigation is by law inferior to the NTSB investigation.

Caproni, as head of the Justice Department Criminal District, Eastern District of New York, knew the law. She knew that the FBI was the subordinate agency. She knew that the NTSB could not legally be restricted in its pursuit of information. Still, in spite of the law, she used the full weight of the Justice Department, and the intimidating presence of the FBI, to order the NTSB witness group to cease and desist all of the critical eyewitness interviews.

"As for the charges that she and the FBI took over investigation," writes Vosper casually, "Caproni says she is guilty." The FBI never did declare TWA Flight 800 a crime scene, the only possible justification for Caproni's intrusion. An NTSB document reveals that Caproni and the Justice Department took over the investigation to ensure that only one story emerged from the witness interviews, the official story, their story. In this, she fully succeeded.

Caproni, alas, was just warming up. Her second major transgression was to place herself in charge of a grand jury investigating Sanders and his wife, Elizabeth. Sanders had received a residue sample from a source in the TWA Flight 800 investigation in his attempt to expose potential criminal misconduct by the same FBI that Caproni herself had illicitly imposed on site.

In the course of her investigation into the Sanders, Caproni crossed over the line into criminal territory [USC Title 18, section 1001]. She did so by declaring in writing that she did not know Sanders was a journalist, thus making it possible to seize his phone records and ultimately his computer and the information contained within its hard drive.

Caproni's purported ignorance of Sanders' profession defies belief. She, in fact, first learned about James Sanders from an account of his investigation in the Riverside Press Enterprise, March 10, 1997. Sanders' name was easy to find. It was on page one, above the fold, second paragraph of the lead story. To the immediate left of "James Sanders" were two words that challenge Caproni's innocence . The two words were "Investigative Reporter." Indeed, even the Corporate Legal Times' profile on Caproni describes Sanders as a "freelance journalist."

It was Sanders' reporting that first alerted Caproni to the problem at hand, namely that a journalist was probing into potential criminal acts within the TWA 800 investigation – acts likely committed by federal officials. These officials, she knew, included herself and the FBI head of the investigation, James Kallstrom, who had been coerced into cooperating. The conflict of interest here should have caused Caproni to recuse herself. If not Caproni, her supervisors in the White House, Jamie Gorelick and Janet Reno, should never have allowed Caproni to pursue a case against her own potential accuser. But then again, it was the future 9-11 commissioner Gorelick who had leaned on Kallstrom.

When Sanders first met with Caproni in April 1997, he had no idea of the hornet's nest he was walking in to. Escorted by Jeff Schlanger, a former New York prosecutor, Sanders sat across from Caproni and a senior FBI agent. A large video taping system recorded the entire meeting. As part of the federal system used for video meetings during times of crisis, it was hooked up to other systems in Washington, D.C. as well as at the FBI's New York City headquarters. The Clinton Justice department had its first look at the retired cop turned journalist who threatened its grip on power.

At this meeting, Caproni told Sanders he would become the "target" of a Justice Department/FBI investigation if he did not immediately turn over the names of those inside the investigation who were assisting him. Sanders refused. His attorney argued for Sanders' First Amendment rights as a reporter. Caproni was not impressed.

The only words that count in a criminal case are those in the trial transcript, spoken under oath. Sanders' attorney at the April 1997 meeting, Jeff Schlanger, was placed under oath at the Sanders' criminal trial two years later. These are the relevant words from the trial transcript:

Q: Did the government indicate at that meeting what, if any, actions they were prepared to take with respect to Liz Sanders?

A: At the very end of that meeting there was a change in the status of Mrs. Sanders from being just a subject in the investigation, to a possible target in the investigation. And that was communicated directly to myself and Mr. Sanders.

Q: And when you say [it] was communicated directly to you, what was your understanding if she did not cooperate?

A: That the government would at least attempt to seek an indictment against her as well.

Q: Now ...

A: It wasn't if she did not cooperate. It was if Mr. Sanders did not cooperate."

The feds had a complete audio-video tape of the meeting. An FBI agent at that meeting was in the courtroom, available to rebut this sworn testimony. The Justice Department declined to engage further in the issue. Why? The testimony accurately reflected what the Justice Department video contained.

At that point the trial should have been over. The judge was certainly aware that Caproni had crossed the line once again into unlawful territory. Her threat against Elizabeth, now revealed in open court, constituted "vindictive prosecution." Worse, it violated the civil rights of the Sanders as no evidence was ever produced to validate Caproni's rationale for targeting Elizabeth. Caproni had simply exploited Elizabeth, holding her hostage to Justice Department chicanery, in a last-minute gambit to get her husband to identify his source.

But the trial did not end with this revelation. Caproni had stacked the federal deck against the Sanders. Both were convicted of conspiracy to steal airplane parts – a law designed to protect crash sites from scavengers. The mainstream media, so seemingly keen on constitutional rights in the Ashcroft era, mocked the Sanders as "conspiracy theorists" and generally applauded their conviction.

In the years that followed, as Sanders served out his three-year probation, he often wondered why Caproni and her allies had hammered him so. A summation of her arguably illicit acts defies easy explanation. These include:

Illegally turning the TWA 800 investigation over to the FBI.

Leading a grand jury investigation of a reporter who was investigating her own misconduct.

Denying in writing any knowledge that he was a reporter so she could seize his computer and phone records.

Threatening the vindictive prosecution of Sanders' wife to force Sanders to cooperate.

Making this threat knowing there was no evidence against Elizabeth Sanders.

Overseeing the Sanders' conviction on irrelevant and gratuitous charges, thereby silencing her most dangerous journalist critic.

Only recently, upon discovering another reason beyond the obvious, did Sanders begin to understand Caproni's behavior. This reason, recently revealed, is a jaw dropper. In that ill-fated summer of 1996, Caproni, Kallstrom and other senior FBI agents may well have unwittingly assisted Islamic terrorist Ramzi Yousef in his effort to destroy an American commercial airliner.

At the time, Caproni was involved in an ongoing sting operation against Yousef. While being tried in federal court for his role in Operation Bojinka, Yousef's diabolical plot to destroy American targets through the air, Yousef operated under the illusion of having a safe telephone within his New York City jail

Yousef thought he was routing messages to the outside world through a phone controlled by the New York Cosa Nostra. Five-time Emmy-winner Peter Lance documents this thoroughly in his new book, "Cover Up." In fact, mob informant Gregory Scarpa
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The FBI Checked the Wrong Box and a Woman Ended Up on the Terrorism Watch List For Years



http://www.ktoo.org/2015/12/20/the-fbi- ... for-years/



December 20, 2015 Nation & World, National Government

As the Senate debated a proposal earlier this month that would have barred gun sales to people on the government’s terrorism watch lists, Republicans decried the lists as unfair, unreliable and un-American. “There’s no due process or any way to get your name removed from it in a timely fashion,” Sen. Marco Rubio told CNN. “This is not a list you can be certain of,” Jeb Bush said. Mike Huckabee asserted that some people end up on the no-fly list due to “suspicion, not necessarily even so much as probable cause.”

Rahinah Ibrahim, a Malaysian architect with a doctorate from Stanford, knows from personal experience that they have a compelling point. Ibrahim is the only person since 9/11 to file a court challenge that ultimately removed her name from the watch lists. It took her almost a decade to prevail in court and even that victory has proved phyrrhic. While a federal judge agreed that her inclusion on the no-fly list was groundless, she remains unable to obtain a visa that would allow her to visit the United States even to attend academic conferences. A close look at her case by ProPublica provides dramatic evidence of what was argued this month in Washington: It is indeed remarkably easy to get on the list and nearly impossible to get off.
Rahinah Ibrahim with Rafeah Mustafa Kamal

Rahinah Ibrahim, right, with her daughter Rafeah Mustafa Kamal, at the Park Royal Hotel in Kuala Lumpur. This photo was taken at a conference of the International Association for the Study of Traditional Environments, which Rahinah co-chaired. (Photo by Raymond Bonner for ProPublica)

The questions of terrorism lists and visas appear likely to take center stage in the coming months. While the Senate rejected the amendment barring gun sales, Connecticut’s governor imposed just such a ban on a threat that is more theoretical. Between 2004 and 2014, more than 2,000 people on the government’s watch lists purchased firearms in the United States, according to a study by the Government Accountability Office. Questions are also emerging about how Tafsheen Malik, one of the perpetrators in the San Bernardino terrorism attack, managed to get a visa to join her husband despite her pro-jihadi postings on social media.

Taken together, the two cases offer a disturbing look at the ability of U.S. authorities to effectively and fairly guard the border.

Ibrahim’s saga began on Jan. 2, 2005. A devout Muslim, she got up before dawn and said her morning prayers. A friend drove her up Highway 101 from San Jose to the San Francisco International Airport. She was booked on United Airlines Flight 41. Ibrahim planned a stopover in Hawaii, where she would deliver a paper at a prestigious conference, before continuing to Malaysia.

The 44-year-old mother of four felt good about her forthcoming trip although she was still in pain from an emergency hysterectomy months earlier. She had just completed four years of demanding course work, while also working as a volunteer at the Stanford hospital. She had just passed her oral exams, a considerable accomplishment for someone who had grown up in rural Malaysia and not been out of the country until she was 18.

When Ibrahim, wearing a hijab that allowed not a strand of her brown hair to show, reached the counter, the ticket agent looked at her reservation and summoned a supervisor. Soon, Ibrahim saw two San Francisco police officers striding purposefully through the terminal. After speaking with the supervisor, the officers told Ibrahim that she was under arrest, handcuffed her and marched her through the crowded terminal to a police car that drove her to the airport police station. Inside, as she would later recall, she found herself in a deeply uncomfortable setting, “a handcuffed Muslim woman surrounded by three male policemen.” The officers locked Ibrahim in a cell where she sat on a cold, stainless steel bench and cried, the scar across her abdomen aching.

Ibrahim had no idea why she had been detained. She explained to the police that two FBI agents interviewed her just nine days earlier and she showed them the business card that one of them, Kevin Kelley, had given her. Kelley was a member of the South Bay Joint Terrorism Task Force in San Jose. He had asked about her academic work (her area of concentration at the engineering school was affordable housing); her husband (he’s very progressive and had allowed her to pursue her career, something most men in her conservative country would not do) and about Jemaah Islamiyah, a terrorist group created in Malaysia but best known for bombings of night clubs in Bali. Ibrahim told Kelley she didn’t know much about Jemaah Islamiyah beyond headlines on the Internet, but that she was a member of Jemaah Islam Malaysia, a professional organization for people who had studied in the United States and Europe and encouraged the practice of more moderate forms of Islam.

After she had been detained at the police station for more than two hours, an official from the Department of Homeland Security, Lee Korman, showed up. He apologized to Ibrahim for her arrest and told her that she had been removed from the no-fly list and was now free to fly. It was the first time Ibrahim knew she was on the no-fly list.

Before 9/11, there were perhaps a dozen people worldwide on America’s no-fly list. The numbers soared after the attacks and by 2013 there were some 47,000 individuals on the list, according to a Justice Department audit. Grandmothers, infants, honorably discharged veterans and the disabled have found themselves barred from boarding. A few notorious cases made headlines, such as when Sen. Edward Kennedy was stopped several times — because, it turned out, there was a “T. Kennedy” on some agency’s terrorist watchlist. Kennedy’s name was, of course, removed. For tens of thousands of others, it was not so easy.

The no-fly list is part of the post 9/11 security apparatus, which is a labyrinth of euphemisms and acronyms. The effort is coordinated by the Terrorism Screening Center (TSC), a multi-agency group of officials managed by the FBI in coordination with the CIA. All federal departments and agencies are responsible “for collecting information about potential terrorists or attacks’’ and sharing that information with the FBI or the CIA, either of which can “nominate” individuals for inclusion in the Terrorist Screening Database (TSDB).

From that database, names are passed “downstream” (in bureaucratic jargon) to the so-called “frontline” agencies — for example, to the Transportation Security Agency (TSA), which administers the no-fly list and to the State Department, where the names are put into the Consular Lookout and Support System (CLASS), which American consular officers around the world call up when a foreigner applies for a visa.

State and local law enforcement officials have access to the database, which now has some 700,000 records. A police officer pulling over a driver for speeding can check the name on the driver’s license against the TSDB. In addition, the lists are shared with more than 20 foreign governments.

An FBI agent need only have a “reasonable suspicion,” to “nominate” someone, the FBI guidelines say. It is supposed to be more than “a mere guess or hunches.” But, as Huckabee noted, the standard is well short of the probable cause the police need to arrest a person.

Ibrahim was born in 1969, the second of five children, into modest circumstances, her father a mid-level civil servant. She inherited school uniforms and textbooks from her older sister, and then passed them on to her younger one. Neither of her parents had finished high school, and they pushed their children to get an education.

Ibrahim had mild dyslexia and was something of a loner in school who found solace in drawing. She finished first in her high-school class, and was one of 25 students nationwide selected to study in the U.S. She had been on an airplane only once before, a small one, to return home from boarding school when her father died. When the flight stopped for a layover in Hong Kong, Ibrahim got separated from the rest of the group. Another student in the honor’s program, Mustafa Kamal, the son of primary school teachers in a small rural town, volunteered to find her. Kamal would continue chasing Ibrahim, changing her life — romantically, unconventionally, profoundly. Ibrahim enrolled in the University of Washington to study architecture; Kamal studied civil engineering at California State University, Long Beach. After a long-distance, telephone romance, they married in the summer between their third and fourth years. Ibrahim graduated with honors in 1984 after the birth of the couple’s first child and moved to Southern California to study for a masters at the Southern California Institute of Technology in Santa Monica.

Kamal assumed primary responsibility for domestic chores. “I was a stay-at-home dad,” he said. He was becoming Americanized. Evenings he watched the ABC News with Peter Jennings, and he was such a diehard Los Angeles Lakers fan that he and his friends would adjust the time of their evening prayers so they could watch the games on television.

“I always feel in love with America,” Kamal told me in an interview in Malaysia. “We consider America our second home.” The years in the United States had a profound impact. “I would say that we grew up in the States. It changed our perspective on the world.” One of his favorite television programs was Meet The Press, which he liked to watch “just to see how these people argue.” On his Facebook page, Kamal lists Henry Kissinger’s “Diplomacy” as one of his “likes.”

Living in America also changed their approach to Islam. They began to practice their religion in a more Western context. “We call it progressive Islam,” Ibrahim told me, during the only interview she has given about her experiences.

After Ibrahim got her masters degree, the family returned to Malaysia and she launched her career as an architect. At the age of 32, and pregnant with her fourth child, Ibrahim became the first female lecturer at University Putra Malaysia, a 7500-acre campus 12 miles south of downtown Kuala Lumpur She was soon intellectually restless and applied to Stanford, surprised when she was accepted.

In 2000, Ibrahim returned to the U.S. with an F1 student visa. Kamal remained in Malaysia. He was the managing director of an environmental consultancy business and had become deeply committed to international relief work. Kamal traveled to Palo Alto every three months to visit his wife.

On March 10, 2005, 10 weeks after her encounter at the San Francisco airport, Ibrahim was set to fly from Malaysia to Stanford with plans to put the final touches on her doctoral thesis. At Kuala Lumpur’s gleaming, modern airport, when she reached the Cathay Pacific counter, she put her bag on the scale — it was filled with presents for patients at the Stanford hospital where she had worked as a volunteer. A supervisory agent asked her to step out of line, and she watched as he made and received calls on his mobile phone. She was puzzled. Korman had told her she had been taken off the no-fly list; she gave Korman’s card to the supervisor. At 9:25, five minutes before the gate was to close, the agent told Ibrahim t






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FBI Didn't Prevent Garland Shooting Even Though Call for Attack Was Made on Twitter A Week Earlier
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Social media has quickly become one of the easiest means by which terrorists, particularly the Islamic State, communicate. One would think, then, that our law enforcement agencies would be monitoring sites like Twitter nonstop, and taking any and all threats seriously.

In the case of the Garland, Texas, shooting, however, director of SITE Intelligence Group Rita Katz says they warned the FBI a week in advance about the planned attack, yet they did not stop it from happening.

Attacker Elton Simpson, who was under previous FBI terror-related investigations, used Twitter to openly follow and communicate with high-profile terrorists. His account was followed by prominent English-speaking Islamic State fighters and recruiters Abu Rahin Aziz and Junaid Hussain — both of whom for a long time were known to provide manuals on how to carry out lone-wolf attacks from Raqqa, Syria, before they were killed. Simpson also followed and communicated with Mohamed Abdullahi Hassan, a known American jihadist in Somalia who pledged allegiance to the Islamic State.

Relatedly, the incitement for the Texas shooting came from Hassan’s 31st Twitter account. Simpson, a friend and follower of Hassan, retweeted the call and later requested that Hassan send him a direct message. We at SITE, using only open-source information, reported on the call before the attack took place, and the FBI had a week to investigate the matter before the shooting. Though only nine Twitter users retweeted the call for attack, the FBI failed to prevent it.

Rather than focusing so much on better regulation of encryption technology, which allows terrorists to communicate on sites like WhatsApp without the government snooping, Katz argues that law enforcement should focus more on combing through open-source information.

It’s also important to note that jihadists are very quick to adapt online. In the past year alone, the Islamic State and al-Qaeda fighters have moved quickly from WhatsApp to Kik, Wickr, Surespot, then to Telegram – all different encryption programs created to give smartphone users safe and free text messaging available across multiple devices. Jihadists are constantly ranking, debating and explaining which of the services is the safest and most effective. Regulation of these programs will take jihadists next to no time to circumvent; the U.S. government would be the one taking years to catch up. And even if successful, they may be able to regulate companies based in the United States, but such programs would appear everywhere else, from Russia to India to China

Katz posits that open source information is "arguably the most important tool in tracking jihadists online." It's well past time law enforcement agencies recognize this and stop relying solely on classified material and 'back-end access to websites.' Garland proves open source provided more than enough of a lead--a week ahead of time--to prevent the attac
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fruhmenschen » Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:52 pm wrote:a volunteer civilian review police board with subpoena powers
would set and enforce standards of performance for law enforcement
personnel in every community.

Tell us what you think of this idea and any success you have had
implementing this model.

the board would be comprised of volunteers with the board changed every 3 years.

One goal of the board is to allow the voters and taxpayers to determine
how they want to meet their needs for safety and what standards are needed to implement
this model.


The volunteer civilian review board would hire .
and fire people who work providing for the community"s safety needs.
This would be based on the standards of performance set by the board.


Fruh, you really don't need to list reasons, considering your many fbi stories and all.

Glad to see you added staggered terms. I don'y want to throw out negatives, but to become legitimate, you'll first need to pass legislation approving the creation of a civilian police review board. So it's important to first identify your office holding allies who you'll need to introduce the legislation and lobby for it. To gain the authority to issue subpoena you might need enabling legislation passed at the county or state level.

Although an all volunteer board would be ideal, I think you'll need to have a few appointees, like one by the Mayor and one by the Chief and perhaps one local legislator. 3 of 9, say. Clergy & Advocates should be represented, but this could be one of the volunteers. Less than half of all citizens review boards have subpoena powers over police. Those that don't are fairly toothless.

Let the people tell you what they want. Go to the areas within the community and hold well publicized meetings that will serve for input and support in formulating and perhaps a prospective board member or two will be discovered.

The volunteer civilian review board would hire .
and fire people who work providing for the community"s safety needs.
This would be based on the standards of performance set by the board


But this you'll need funding for and not only that, but pretty much a miracle. It would require rewriting the state's civil service laws.

We formed a board some 30 years ago, after my friend's mentally ill brother was murdered by police. They claimed he was armed with a weapon. He had keys and a matchbox car in his hands. From this tragedy we got a mental health intervention team that evaluates such stand-off situations before SWAT moves in, but then only if a true danger to self or others is apparent and considered otherwise unresolvable.

I haven't looked into its operation, the mental health intervention unit's, in years, but I have witnessed time and again the board's efforts stymied because they lacked subpoena powers. Good luck!
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Before going to the legislature to change Civil Service laws or create new laws
the voter and taxpayer must first address the problems of Cops
committing voter fraud..





see link here
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if link fails google landesreport voter fraud

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The 1987 Leonard Gates Deposition -- Gates, a Cincinnati Bell employee for 23 years, testified that in the late 1970's and 80's, the FBI assisted telephone companies with hacking into mainframe election computers in cities across the country. The first election Gates provided the hack for was in 1979, see http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/Election ... ection=517 PLUS... 1985 Background Material from Jim Condit, Jr. and also see: DOJ & FBI complicity
Jan 10, 08: There's a History of Suspected Vote Fraud In NH - Forget 'Official Recounts', Do Citizen Audits
Dec. 22, 07: Lynn's Affidavit for National Clean Elections lawsuit
Mar 12, 07: The “Voter Confidence” Bill. IT’S CONFUSING - Electronic Tallies Can Still Trump Paper Ballots on Election Day
Feb, 07: Florida Gov. Crist's suggestion that ballot scanners are the answer to touchscreen machines is a cynical ploy. State officials plan to use ES&S ballot markers plus ballot scanners. No hand count. Both machines are computers and can be easily programmed to rig an election. Florida also has a law on the books that the electronic tally, not a hand count, will be the official election result in the case of a recount. In addition, counties that used ballot scanners in the 2004 presidential election showed a massive and highly suspicious crossover vote from Democratic voters (and other parties) to Bush. Bush posted vote totals of 200%, 300%, 400%, and in one county 600% over Republican registration. See the chart - Florida
Feb 07: Rush Holt's bill HB 811 is very disappointing. Check out Nancy Tobi's comments. My full review coming soon. We need Kucinich to re-introduce HB 6200, paper ballots, hand-counts only.
Jan 15, 07: The Landes Report To Congress On Voting - A call for total transparency in voting, Open Voting. Rescind laws that allow voting by machines, absentee, early, and secret ballot.
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December 28, 2015 | Peter Dale Scott
Why CIA’s Richard Helms Lied About Oswald: Part 3
Not Ancient History -- But Preamble to the Present
Former CIA Director Richard Helms Photo credit: Adapted by WhoWhatWhy from CIA Library

Former CIA Director Richard Helms Photo credit: Adapted by WhoWhatWhy from CIA Library

This is a rumination on lies — layer upon layer of lies — told by US intelligence agencies and other officials about what Lee Harvey Oswald, or someone pretending to be him, was allegedly doing in Mexico City just weeks before the Kennedy assassination. The original goal, it seems, was to associate Oswald, in advance of the events of Dealey Plaza, with the USSR and Cuba.

The essay focuses on tales told by Richard Helms, a top official of the CIA in 1963 who later became its director — and is based on a talk given by Peter Dale Scott.

Scott is the popularizer of the expression, “Deep Politics,” and a virtuoso when it comes to what sometimes seems like grabbing smoke — capturing proof, however elusive, of motives and objectives that could explain the machinations of US intelligence agencies — and then analyzing the residue.

Not all of the chicanery Scott describes is subtle. For example, in an apparent attempt to bring the Russians into the picture, someone delivered to the FBI’s Dallas office a purported audiotape of Oswald calling the Soviet embassy in Mexico City. That failed, though, when FBI agents decided that the voice did not seem to be Oswald’s.

Then, two days later, the FBI joined the subterfuge by falsely reporting that “no tapes were taken to Dallas.” Because of this lie, an investigation more than a decade later by the House Select Committee on Assassinations would erroneously declare that there was no “basis for concluding that there had been an Oswald imposter.” (The existence of an Oswald impersonator in the months before the president’s murder would in and of itself have been prima facie evidence of a conspiracy in Kennedy’s death.)

And then there was the attempt to set up a Soviet agent…

You will probably not be able to keep up with each tall tale, nor does it matter. They have a cumulative effect, one that explains why it is impossible to study these documents without coming away believing in conspiracy.

There is dark humor here — reminiscent of the television sit-com of the 1960’s, “Get Smart” —

about a secret agent who was always telling one lie after another, blissfully unaware that each new lie not only undermined the last one, but any new one that came after:

Smart: I happen to know that at this very minute seven Coast Guard cutters are converging on this boat. Would you believe it? Seven.

Mr.Big: I find that pretty hard to believe.

Smart: Would you believe six?

Mr.Big: I don’t think so.

Smart: Would you believe two cops in a rowboat?

Would you believe that the US intelligence community has been telling us the truth all of these years?

Essay based on talk given by Peter Dale Scott at Third Annual JFK Assassination Conference in Dallas, 2015. (Produced by TrineDay Books, Conscious Community Events, and the JFK Historical Group.)

—WhoWhatWhy Introduction by Milicent Cranor

(This is Part 3 of a three-part series. For Part 1, please go here, and for Part 2, go here.)
The CIA’s Obstruction of Justice in 2015

Now let us compare the CIA’s lying performance in 1964 with its lying performance in 2015. In the wake of the Kennedy assassination, members of many U.S. agencies, including also the FBI, the Office of Naval Intelligence, the U.S. Air Force, and the Secret Service, withheld relevant information from those investigating the murder.[1] But to my knowledge there is in 2015 only one U.S. agency that is still actively maintaining the cover-up – and that is the CIA.

I am referring to the CIA’s declassification and release of a previously classified CIA study by CIA historian David Robarge, “DCI John McCone and the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy.”[2] The essay is worth reading, and it contains interesting information on such matters as McCone’s relationship with Robert Kennedy. It is also significantly selective: it does not mention for example that McCone only learned late on the night of November 22 that “the CIA had known beforehand of [the alleged] Oswald’s trip to the Soviet Embassy in Mexico City,” nor that as a result McCone “was enraged, ripping into his aides, furious at the way the agency was run.”[3]

Buried within Robarge’s discussion of John McCone and the Commission – a pertinent but hardly central topic – are a more important thesis statement and conclusion about the CIA itself. In the light of what I have just said about Helms, I would charge that both of these statements are false – so false indeed as arguably to constitute, once again, obstruction of justice.

The thesis statement on page 8 is that “Under McCone’s and Helms’s direction, CIA supported the Warren Commission in a way that may best be described as passive, reactive, and selective.” This claims that the CIA’s deception of the Warren Commission was a sin of omission. But no, the CIA was not just passive. Helms perjured himself, just as he lied again in the 1970s.

Worse, the article focuses on the failure of the CIA to tell the Warren Commission about its plots to assassinate Castro, which may very well have been relevant; but in so doing it deflects attention away from the CIA’s suppression of its own LCIMPROVE operation in October involving “Lee Oswald” (or “Lee Henry Oswald”), which unquestionably was of very great relevance.

Worst of all is the article’s conclusion:

Max Holland, one of the most fair-minded scholars of these events, has concluded that “if the word ‘conspiracy’ must be uttered in the same breath as ‘Kennedy assassination,’ the only one that existed was the conspiracy to kill Castro and then keep that effort secret after November 22nd.”
Fidel Castro Photo credit: Library of Congress / Wikimedia

Fidel Castro Photo credit: Library of Congress / Wikimedia

Of the many things wrong with this sentence, the worst service to truth in my mind is the skillful effort to divert attention away from the Angleton operation involving Oswald, and to focus instead on plots to kill Castro. This is an old ploy dating back to 1965, following in the footsteps of old CIA veterans and friends like Brian Latell and Gus Russo. It allows a writer like Philip Shenon to quote from the Robarge study the old red herring question “Did Castro kill the president because the president had tried to kill Castro?”[4]
Public Attacks in 1963-64 on the CIA’s Operational Capacity

Some people have deduced, from the fact that CIA officials lied, that the CIA killed Kennedy. I myself believe only that some CIA individuals were involved, along with others in other agencies. As I indicated earlier, my working hypothesis is not that the killing was a CIA operation, but that the plot was piggy-backed on an authorized CIA covert operation that was not under secure control and may in part have been outsourced.[5] Some CIA actions before the assassination, notably the protection of Oswald by suppressing the reported allegation that he had been in contact with Kostikov, suggest to me that some members of the CIA CI staff, and in particular CI Chief James Angleton, may have participated to some degree in the piggy-backed plot.

At a minimum, we can say that the CIA, through its Oswald operation, was sufficiently involved in the facts of the assassination to have been embarrassed into a cover-up. We have to recall that in late 1963 the CIA’s covert operations were coming under increasing criticism and attack, initially because of the 1961 Bay of Pigs Operation against Cuba, a total fiasco, but now also because of the developing chaos in Vietnam, particularly after the assassination on November 1, 1963, of Vietnamese president Ngo Dinh Diem and his brother.

We do not know just how aware the CIA was of Kennedy’s expressed vow to friends, first revealed a decade later, “to splinter the C.I.A. in a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.”[6] But objections to the CIA’s covert operations were beginning, to an unprecedented degree, to be voiced in the U.S. media.

On November 20, 1963, the New York Times published a letter, dated November 7, that argued, as did some Congressmen of the period, that “One of the very first steps … should be to strip the CIA immediately of all operational and policy-making powers and confine it to its original function – namely the gathering of information.”[7]

One month earlier, on October 2, Washington News correspondent Richard Starnes had published a blistering attack on the CIA from Saigon (possibly inspired by U.S. Ambassador Henry Cabot Lodge, who was already preparing to be a Republican candidate for president in 1964):

SAIGON, Oct.2 – The story of the Central Intelligence Agency’s role in South Viet Nam is a dismal chronicle of bureaucratic arrogance, obstinate disregard of orders, and unrestrained thirst for power….

Other American agencies here are incredibly bitter about the CIA. “If the United States ever experiences a ‘Seven Days in May’ it will come from the CIA, and not from the Pentagon,” one U.S. official commented caustically. [“Seven Days in May” is a fictional account of an attempted military coup to take over the U.S. Government.][8]

These complaints swelled to a crescendo after November 22. Exactly one month later, President Truman himself wrote in the Washington Post,

“I think it has become necessary to take another look at the purpose and operations of our Central Intelligence Agency…. For some time, I have been disturbed by the way CIA has been diverted from its original assignment. It has become an operational and at times a policy-making arm of Government. This has led to trouble and may have compounded our difficulties in several explosive areas. I never had any thought that when I set up the CIA that it would be injected into peacetime cloak and dagger operations.”[9]

As David Talbot notes in The Devil’s Chessboard,

“Truman’s explosive piece in The Washington Post, which instantly caught fire and inspired similar anti-CIA editorials in newspapers from Charlotte, North Carolina, to Sacramento, California. Syndicated columnist Richard Starnes, a bête noire of the spy agency, used the Truman op-ed to launch a broadside against the CIA, calling it ‘a cloudy organism of uncertain purpose and appalling power.’ Meanwhile, Senator Eugene McCarthy, another agency critic, weighed in with an essay for The Saturday Evening Post… bluntly titled, ‘The CIA Is Getting Out of Hand.’”[10]

And by the time of Helms’s testimony even McCone, the outside CIA Director appointed by Kennedy, “kept saying that he wanted to get out of the cloak-and-dagger business.”[11]

In other words, Helms’s motives for perjury in 1964, involved far more than the technicality that he had sworn an oath to protect the agency’s secrets. At risk in these crucial months was the preservation of the agency itself, or at a minimum the preservation of its operational capacity. The choice confronting him was not between two conflicting oaths. It was a choice between the survival of the CIA as he knew it, or the survival of America’s justice system and the rule of law as we then knew them.

Helms’s choice was unambiguous, as it was again in 1973, when he “falsely testified [to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee] that the CIA had not passed money to the opposition movement in Chile”.[12] He lied, at the expense of justice, to ensure that the CIA would survive. In this he would assuredly have had the support of Angleton. Angleton later testified to the Senate Church Committee that “it is inconceivable that a secret intelligence arm of the government has to comply with all the overt orders of the government.”[13]
The 1960s and 1970s Conflict: Public State versus Deep State

In Dallas ’63 I argue that these two decades, the sixties and seventies, were a crucial period in American history, two decades in which the American constitutional state and its structural deep state (including the CIA) were opposing each other and struggling to see which power would prevail over the other.[14]

It is noteworthy that in 1973, when Helms perjured himself again, not only the agency’s but his own personal career were again at risk.[15] In December 1972, after the Watergate break-in, Nixon believed Helms “was out to get him;” and accordingly he banished Helms to be Ambassador in Iran. He then he gave orders to Helms’s replacement, James Schlesinger, “to turn the place inside out.”[16]

In The American Deep State, I argue that, by banishing Helms to Iran, Nixon had heightened a conflict between the two forms of power (the state and the deep state), a conflict in which he, and not Helms, would become the victim. I believe that Tehran became a new center for Helms’s machinations, in conjunction with the intelligence agencies of Iran, France, and Saudi Arabia.

In 1976, after it became evident the new president Carter would resume the efforts to trim the agency, Helms became part of an organized offshore network (the so-called “Safari Club”) of these foreign intelligence agencies, which resumed the covert operations (notably in Angola) that were being curtailed by the combined efforts of the president and Congress.[17] Then, in 1980 (in the so-called Republican October Surprise), CIA veterans combined with leaders of the Safari Club to defeat Carter’s bid for re-election, and elect instead Ronald Reagan,[18]

Given this evolution of events, I conclude that Helms’s perjuries significantly affected the history of this country. They were a vital part of an on-going process whereby, after the Reagan Revolution of 1980, the constitutional deep state was now subordinated to the needs and priorities of the structural deep state (including, but not limited to, the CIA). One of these needs, ever since 1963, has been to preserve the threadbare fiction that Lee Harvey Oswald by himself killed the president, and no one in the CIA was involved in any way.

How can we make the American people more aware that elements of the CIA lied about the assassination in 1964, and are still lying today? How are we to deal with the widespread climate of denial in our media and academies?

To pursue the truth about these matters is to position oneself outside the mainstream-supported structure of ideas. And we have learned from experience that there are severe limits to the amount of assistance we can expect in that pursuit from either Congress or the courts.

The truth, however, can be a powerful political weapon. So can justice. So I hope we will all continue to dedicate ourselves to this very slow, but undying and rewarding effort, to make truth and justice prevail.

.

[1] See Scott, Dallas ’63.

[2] David Robarge, “DCI John McCone and the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy,” Studies in Intelligence, Vol .57 No. 3 (September 2013), http://nsarchive.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB4 ... bb_026.PDF.

[3] Weiner, Legacy of Ashes, 224; cf. 239: “McCone kept saying that he wanted to get out of the cloak-and-dagger business.” The response of Thomas Karamessines, Helms’s Assistant Deputy Director of Plans, was to order that no more messages “to DCI [McCone]… too confusing” (Handwritten CIA record, “Document Concerning Name Trace Requests and Results,” NARA #104-10015-10013

[4] Philip Shenon, “Yes, the CIA Director Was Part of the JFK Assassination Cover-Up,” Politico, October 6, 2015, http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... cia-213197. I have described this suggestion that the assassination was a plot that “backfired” as a “Phase Three” story, following (but not in time) the Phase One Story that Castro (or the KGB) did it, and gthe Phase Two Story that “Oswald acted alone.” See Peter Dale Scott, “William Pawley, the Kennedy Assassination, and Watergate: TILT and the “Phase Three” Story of Clare Boothe Luce,” GlobalReseearch.ca, November 28, 2012, http://www.globalresearch.ca/william-pa ... ce/5313486.

[5] For my similar hypothesis that the 9/11 plot was piggy-backed on an authorized operation, see Scott, The American Deep State (Lanham, MD: Rowman & Littlefield, 2014), 133.

[6] Tom Wicker et al., “C.I.A.: Maker of Policy, or Tool?” New York Times, April 25, 1966; quoted in James Douglass, JFK and the Unspeakable (Maryknoll, NY: Orbis Books, 2014), 15; cf. Jack Anderson, San Francisco Chronicle, March 3, 1967.

[7] New York Times, November 20, 1963, letter from Harold W. Thatcher, of Forty Fort, Pa,; cf. http://jfkcountercoup.blogspot.com/2012 ... cover.html

[8] Richard Starnes, Washington News, October 2, 1963. As James Douglass points out, the Starnes story was discussed at a National Security Council meeting the same day: “The President then asked what we should say about the news story attacking CIA which appeared in today’s Washington Daily News. He read a draft paragraph for inclusion in the public statement but rejected it as being too fluffy. He felt no one would believe a statement saying that there were no differences of view among the various U.S. agencies represented in Saigon. He thought that we should say that now we had a positive policy endorsed by the National Security Council and that such policy would be carried out by all concerned.”

[9] Harry S. Truman, “Limit CIA Role To Intelligence,” Washington Post, December 22, 1963, http://www.maebrussell.com/Prouty/Harry%20Truman’s%20CIA%20article.html.

[10] David Talbot, The Devil’s Chessboard (New York: Harper, 2015), 569.

[11] Weiner, Legacy of Ashes, 239.

[12] Melvin Allan Goodman, Failure of Intelligence: The Decline and Fall of the CIA (Lanham, MD: Rowman & Littlefield, 2008), 286.

[13] Mangold, Cold Warrior, 351.

[14] Scott, Dallas ’63, 170-78. Cf. Scott, The American Deep State, 101-08.

[15] President Nixon had long mistrusted both Helms and the CIA, and was looking for ways to be less dependent on them. Meanwhile Helms was very close to former CIA officer Howard Hunt, now working for Nixon; and Hunt may well have been informed Helms of Hunt’s trip to Miami in April 1971, to recruit Cuban exiles for a new operational group, outside the CIA, that would be backed by the Nixon White House. See Stanley Kutler, The Wars of Watergate (New York: Knopf, 1990), 113, 200-03 (“close to Hunt); E. Howard Hunt, Undercover: A Memoir of an American Secret Agent (New York: Berkley, 1974), 144; cited in Lamar Waldron, Watergate, the Hidden History (Berkeley: Counterpoint, 2012), 472 (“operational group”).

[16] Weiner, Legacy of Ashes: 374; Scott, Dallas ’63, 174.

[17] Scott, American Deep State, 26-27.

[18] Scott, American Deep State, 27-29, 103-06.





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Orange County Muslims gather in prayer in the parking lot of Angel Stadium in Anaheim for Eid al-Adha to mark the end of the annual pilgrimage to Mecca known as Hajj on Sept. 23. 2015

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Craig Monteilh told the imam that he wanted to embrace his French and Syrian heritage and convert to Islam.

Monteilh adopted an Islamic name, donned Muslim robes and a skull cap, and attended prayers vigilantly. The Islamic Center of Irvine embraced him — until he began talking of violent jihad.

Congregants reported him to the FBI and Irvine police, and then obtained a restraining order against him. Only later did they discover Monteilh was working for the FBI.

A federal appeals court is now considering whether the FBI can be held liable for allegedly indiscriminately targeting Muslims for surveillance. If the court decides the FBI cannot defend itself without revealing state secrets, the court likely would uphold the dismissal of a class-action lawsuit brought by Southern California Muslims.

The review by the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals comes at a time of heightened fear of terrorism and incidents of backlash against innocent Muslims.

Judge Marsha Berzon, in a hearing this month, acknowledged the sensitivity of the matter as she struggled to understand what constituted a state secret. The state secrets doctrine bars litigation of a case if it would expose or threaten to expose matters of national security.


"I just am having real trouble seeing where the line is drawn in this very difficult situation we are in now," Berzon, a Clinton appointee, told a government lawyer.

The government argued it could not defend itself without disclosing state secrets. U.S. District Judge Cormac J. Carney agreed with the government in 2012, dismissing the bulk of the lawsuit on the grounds it would require disclosure of matters vital to national security. Carney reviewed classified information before his decision.

The Southern California Muslim community, represented by the ACLU of Southern California, believes the FBI targeted people solely because of their religion and should be held accountable.


Muslim leaders complained that the spying mission eroded trust in law enforcement at a time when the government needs help from the Muslim community to fight terror.

"The fundamental question is will we be viewed as partners or suspects?" said Edina Likovic, speaking for the Los Angeles-based Muslim Public Affairs Council. "The fear here is that we are being treated publicly as partners and privately as suspects."

About 500,000 Muslims live in Southern California, with more than 120,000 in Orange County, the second-largest population of Muslims in the United States.

Monteilh, who had a falling out with the FBI, has been working with the ACLU.

"I am the principal witness," said the Irvine resident, 53. "All the information they got came from me."

Monteilh said the FBI paid him $177,000 to infiltrate about 12 mosques in Orange, Los Angeles and San Bernardino counties over the course of 14 months, starting in June 2006. He said his job was to gather as many cellphone numbers and email addresses as possible and to find Muslims who could be compromised because of immigration, sexual or business issues.

Posing as a fitness consultant, Monteilh frequently worked out with Muslims at the gym and secretly recorded them, he said.

"This surveillance was so fruitful that Monteilh's handlers eventually told him they were seeking approval to have him open a Muslim gym," the suit said.

When he agreed to attend prayers at dawn four days a week, he received a pay increase, the suit said. His handlers told him to write down the license plate numbers of the cars in the parking lot, he said.

But at times his devotion raised eyebrows. He attended lessons in Arabic — a language he didn't speak.

He also appeared to be extremely absent-minded. Congregants remembered that he was forever leaving his keys or his cellphone behind. Monteilh later said his phone and a fob on his keys contained recording devices.

During the hearing, a lawyer for the FBI agents said Monteilh had signed a contract saying he would not leave listening devices unattended. Monteilh said he signed no such contract, and the agents knew what he was doing.

Monteilh said he secretly videotaped Muslims through a camera hidden in a button in the front of his shirt.

His identity was revealed during a court hearing. He had a criminal record, and the FBI helped him get off probation early, according to a court transcript.

Monteilh later accused the FBI of breaking promises to him. The FBI has said it does not target people because of their religion and that Monteilh signed a confidentiality agreement.

Monteilh, who unsuccessfully sued the FBI, said he has no regrets about his undercover work. He learned about FBI techniques and methods and policies and now works as a consultant on counterterrorism, he said. His mission unveiled the government's scrutiny of Muslims, he said.

"If I didn't work that case, they would never know they were being spied on 24 hours a day," Monteilh said.

He said his work identified terrorists overseas, although it did not lead to convictions of local Muslims. Monteilh also said he understands why the FBI conducted the surveillance.

"Let's face it, they have to," he said. "That is the only method they can use to be preemptive."

It could take several months before the 9th Circuit rules.

Berzon was the only judge on the panel who asked questions during the hearing. The other two reviewing the case are 9th Circuit Judge Ronald M. Gould and Judge George Caram Steeh III, a district judge from Michigan, both Clinton appointees.

Although she was skeptical of both sides, Berzon told attorneys for the government that their arguments were "circular."

She also observed that another circuit court had found that the government could not invoke the state secret privilege in a lawsuit unless the secrets were an integral part of the government's "meritorious defense," not just a possible defense, an issue a court would have to determine.

"We certainly can't do that if you can't tell us your defense," she said.

Monteilh said he has remained a Muslim, though his conversion initially was a ruse. He said he prays five times a day, studies the Koran and fasts.

But he does not attend a mosque.

"People would freak out if they saw me," he said. "I am a former FBI informant, and that will always be with me."q
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Postby Iamwhomiam » Tue Dec 29, 2015 6:10 pm

SO your solution is to do what exactly? Post a bunch of bullshit FBI stories here. Bullshit, because as you know, it's a corrupt system that keeps people believing the illusion it's not. Fixed elections! Oh my!

Damn! You're a modern day cut & paste John Payne!

But I find it more satisfying to wrest from the illusionists the little power I have in effecting real and positive change which has benefited my community and many others.

I know of no period in human history absent of deadly conflict and doubt I'll live to see a peaceful world.

So what's your point? You rarely offer any commentary along with the news you're sharing, so please, tell us.

If you are about to publish a book, get to it, dammit!

It's ok to do in three volumes, you know.
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People interested in creating standards of performance for law enforcement
and a volunteer civilian review police board with subpoena powers
can post their ideas here.
If they want to talk with people who have taken a leadership role
in these areas contact Andrea Pritchett at Berkeley Copwatch
Dan Handelman at Portland Copwatch and Mary Powers at Citizens Alert

The Huffington Post today was critical of the FBI lack of standards
in reporting police shootings/killing of civilians




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fbi ... a68881239e



The Big Problem With The FBI's Tracking Of Fatal Shootings By Police
A Washington Post senior editor says the agency did "a very poor job."
12/29/2015 11:26 am ET



According to a comprehensive report from The Washington Post, nearly 1,000 Americans were shot and killed by police in 2015. That startling number aside, another surprising finding from the data is just how little the FBI truly understood the breadth of police shootings in pervious years.

Washington Post senior editor Marc Fisher discussed the report with HuffPost Live's Alyona Minkovski on Monday, explaining that because most American law enforcement is decentralized and locally-powered, national numbers about killings at the hands of police were lacking -- until now.

"The FBI does make at least a partial effort to get this information," Fisher said. "They ask police departments across the country to voluntarily report fatal shootings by their officers, but only a small number of those departments bother to do that, so the FBI's reports are extremely incomplete, which is what we found this year when our tally came up with three times as many fatal shootings as the FBI had in each of the preceding nine years."

That doesn't mean there was a huge increase in fatal shootings by police this year, Fisher said. Instead, the numbers show the FBI's deficiency in investigating the data.

"What's going on is the FBI was really doing a very poor job of collecting this information, which they'
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Setting standards for the police
is first addressed by seperating
policing into at leat 4 areas.

1. the actual policing or providing
for the safety needs of community
by interdicting people who commit
crimes.
These activities are driven by restorative
justice and best provided by volunteers
from the community with standards of
performance governing policing

2. solving crimes not caught by interdiction
with the creation of standards of performance


3. creating specific treatment plans for the
victim and criminal with the creation of standards of
performance

4. post treatment follow up until all parties are stabalized



in policing news



http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/d ... s-lockdown


Belgian soldiers and police 'held orgy' during Brussels lockdown

Two policewomen and eight soldiers alleged to have engaged in group sex while colleagues hunted for Paris terror attack suspects
Police officers in Brussels


Police officers in Brussels, which was on the highest level of alert last month following the Paris attacks. Photograph: Francois Lenoir/Reuters







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Soldiers and police officers in Brussels held an orgy while the city was in lockdown over fears of a Paris-style attack by Islamist extremists, according to Belgian media reports.

Two female police officers and eight soldiers are said to have engaged in group sex at a police station in the Brussels neighbourhood of Ganshoren while colleagues hunted for terror suspects.

The police station was near Molenbeek, where anti-terror raids had been taking place.

Police spokesman Johan Berckmans told De Standaard that 15 to 20 soldiers slept at the station for two weeks during the operation in November so they did not have to travel far at the end of their shift.

“When they left, they organised a small party to thank the police in the area,” the spokesman told Belgian newspaper La Derniere Heure.

“We have launched an investigation to find out what exactly happened.”

The Belgian capital was on the highest level of alert last month after the Paris attacks that left 130 people
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a species that hires bodyguards to protect their offspring
looses the ability to protect it self

and is doomed to extinction
when the bodyguards turn on them






Young black men killed by US police at highest rate in year of 1,134 deaths

Final total of people killed by US police officers in 2015 shows rate of death for young black men was five times higher than white men of the same age
US police killed more than 1,000 people so far this year. Will 2016 be any different?


http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015 ... -black-men


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Young black men were nine times more likely than other Americans to be killed by police officers in 2015, according to the findings of a Guardian study that recorded a final tally of 1,134 deaths at the hands of law enforcement officers this year.
The Guardian view on killings by US police: why we must keep counting
The Counted has made up for the Obama administration’s failings, but the lack of oversight remains. So we will restart our count of people killed by police until the government does its job


Despite making up only 2% of the total US population, African American males between the ages of 15 and 34 comprised more than 15% of all deaths logged this year by an ongoing investigation into the use of deadly force by police. Their rate of police-involved deaths was five times higher than for white men of the same age.

Paired with official government mortality data, this new finding indicates that about one in every 65 deaths of a young African American man in the US is a killing by police.
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“This epidemic is disproportionately affecting black people,” said Brittany Packnett, an activist and member of the White House taskforce on policing. “We are wasting so many promising young lives by continuing to allow this to happen.”

Speaking in the same week that a police officer in Cleveland, Ohio, was cleared by a grand jury over the fatal shooting of Tamir Rice, a 12-year-old African American boy who was carrying a toy gun, Packnett said the criminal justice system was presenting “no deterrent” to the excessive use of deadly force by police. “Tamir didn’t even live to be 15,” she said.

Protests accusing law enforcement officers of being too quick to use lethal force against unarmed African Americans have spread across the country in the 16 months since dramatic unrest gripped Ferguson, Missouri, following the fatal police shooting of 18-year-old
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for the uneducated and the uneducable





couple of stories about taxpayer funded
FBI agents who are terrorists


1.



http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016 ... l-lutchman


Suspect in pro-Isis plot called mentally ill 'panhandler' who was 'manipulated'



in Rochester, New York

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An ex-convict arrested in a plot to carry out a pro-Islamic State attack at a bar on New Year’s Eve is a panhandler who had been asked to leave in the past, the bar’s owner said. The man’s family said he had a long history of mental problems.
New York man accused of planning pro-Isis attack on New Year's Eve
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Federal authorities have said Emanuel Lutchman, 25, sought to prove he was worthy of joining Isis by leading an attack in Rochester with a machete and knives that were provided by an FBI informant.

After authorities announced his arrest on Thursday, Lutchman’s father and mother described a man who had had psychiatric troubles since childhood



2.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q20jaExlHdw
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Cops committing voter fraud


couple of stories


1.




see link here
for Gates deposition

if link fails google landesreport voter fraud

http://www.thelandesreport.com/index.htm


The 1987 Leonard Gates Deposition -- Gates, a Cincinnati Bell employee for 23 years, testified that in the late 1970's and 80's, the FBI assisted telephone companies with hacking into mainframe election computers in cities across the country. The first election Gates provided the hack for was in 1979, see http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/Election ... ection=517 PLUS... 1985 Background Material from Jim Condit, Jr. and also see: DOJ & FBI complicity
Jan 10, 08: There's a History of Suspected Vote Fraud In NH - Forget 'Official Recounts', Do Citizen Audits
Dec. 22, 07: Lynn's Affidavit for National Clean Elections lawsuit
Mar 12, 07: The “Voter Confidence” Bill. IT’S CONFUSING - Electronic Tallies Can Still Trump Paper Ballots on Election Day
Feb, 07: Florida Gov. Crist's suggestion that ballot scanners are the answer to touchscreen machines is a cynical ploy. State officials plan to use ES&S ballot markers plus ballot scanners. No hand count. Both machines are computers and can be easily programmed to rig an election. Florida also has a law on the books that the electronic tally, not a hand count, will be the official election result in the case of a recount. In addition, counties that used ballot scanners in the 2004 presidential election showed a massive and highly suspicious crossover vote from Democratic voters (and other parties) to Bush. Bush posted vote totals of 200%, 300%, 400%, and in one county 600% over Republican registration. See the chart - Florida
Feb 07: Rush Holt's bill HB 811 is very disappointing. Check out Nancy Tobi's comments. My full review coming soon. We need Kucinich to re-introduce HB 6200, paper ballots, hand-counts only.
Jan 15, 07: The Landes Report To Congress On Voting - A call for total transparency in voting, Open Voting. Rescind laws that allow voting by machines, absentee, early, and secret ballot.


2.



How about the elections being stolen in Boston?


https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/ ... -machines/


Over a third of Boston precincts reported system malfunctions in 2012 elections
Poll workers reported issues ranging from "lights out in voting booth" to "ballot count screwed up" and "machine shut off completely."
by Carly Sitrin
January 4, 2016
edited by JPat Brown

Documents obtained from Boston City Hall through a public records request reveal that approximately 37 percent of precincts in the Boston metro area reported technological issues or system malfunctions with their voting machines in the 2012 general presidential election.

According to poll workers' reports from the 2012 election, at least 96 of the 255 precincts reported issues ranging from "lights out in voting booth" to "ballot count screwed up" and "machine shut off completely." The most common complaint that poll workers had with the voting systems was "scanner jammed."

At least 96 of the 255 precincts reported issues ranging from 'lights out in voting booth' to 'ballot count screwed up' and 'machine shut off completely.'

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To fix the jam, the poll workers have to call in a repairman to physically open the machine up, remove the offending ballots, and reset the system. Often, the poll workers reported consecutive jams.

In one instance, a repairman simply never showed up.

So how did this happen?

Massachusetts currently uses optical scanning equipment which takes in hand-marked paper ballots and tallies up the results at the polling location. Boston uses one of two different brands of voting equipment: the ES&S AutoMark and the Premier/Diebold (Dominion) AccuVote.

The problem is, the laws around certifying and regulating these machines are hazy.

The U.S. Election Assistance Commission (EAC) was created in 2002 as a part of the federal Help America Vote Act (HAVA) and was tasked with establishing some form of standardization for voting machines nationwide. What it came up with was the Voluntary Voting System Guidelines (VVSG) which outlines the standards and regulations that all voting machines should adhere to. The catch, of course, is that these guidelines are "voluntary."

Typically, jurisdictions will purchase their own voting systems which have been submitted for testing by the individual vendors. The vendors are responsible for assuring that the machines meet required standards (state standards at least, sometimes federal standards). After these machines are tested and approved for use, states can purchase them. However, the requirements vary from state to state.

As it stands, 37 states, including Massachusetts, require some aspect of federal testing. However, nine states have no federal testing or certification requirements whatsoever. With regard to these nine states (Florida, Maine, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Oklahoma, Oregon and Vermont), the National Conference of State Legislature website says:

"Statutes and/or regulations make no mention of any federal agency, certification program, laboratory, or standard; instead these states have state-specific processes to test and approve equipment (Note that even states that do not require federal certification typically still rely on the federal program to some extent, and use voting systems created by vendors that have been federally certified)."

The remaining four states refer to the federal standards but fall under other categories of certification.

But, as evidenced by the issues poll workers experienced in the 2012 election, even federal testing cannot prevent all malfunctions. At one precinct, the safety seal on the ballot box fell off.

Poll workers had to "manually put ballots inside machine."

These issues went as far as to cause discrepancies in the precinct's totals.

And in one case, an entirely new machine had to be brought in.

The source of these glitches and malfunctions wasn't cited in the reports, however, most of the issues can be attributed to aging equipment. Funding from HAVA for the voting machines was distributed to jurisdictions in a lump sum disbursement rather than in stipends over time. So, while the machines purchased with HAVA funding were all initially shiny and new, any repairs to the equipment would come at a cost to the state.

According to a study put out by the Brennan Center for Justice at the New York University School of Law, in 2016, Massachusetts will be using voting equipment that was purchased more than 15 years ago. And with each machine running a cost of around $3,000 multiplied by two units per precinct, the cost for Boston alone would near $1.5 million to replace them all.

And with each machine running a cost of around $3,000 multiplied by two units per precinct, the cost for Boston alone would near $1.5 million to replace them all.

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The poll workers' reports, which can be accessed at the election department at Boston City Hall, are all handwritten and are not digitized. When asked what happens with these reports after the election concludes, Sabino Piemonte, acting elections chief for the city of Boston, said that a committee reads through them and issues a processing report citing any changes that may need to be made. That processing report was unavailable as of this article's publication.

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