by Jerky » Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:58 am
>1st: We obviously disagree about what is meant <br>>by "anti-semetic". You seem to think it means only <br>>people who go around with swastikas on their <br>>foreheads, or hold a hatred of Jews based on <br>>irrationallity. <br><br>I subscribe to dictionary.com’s definition, which describes an anti-Semite as “one who discriminates against or who is hostile toward or prejudiced against Jews.” That definition works fine for me. You, on the other hand, seem to think an anti-Semite is anyone who disagrees with your hysterical, lunatic hissy fits.<br><br>>I would argue that it could also take the form of well-<br>>reasoned people of the best intentions. <br><br>I think you have to come up with another word for whatever it is you’re trying to describe, because I can’t imagine a reasonable, well-intentioned person discriminating against or being hostile toward or prejudiced against Jews.<br><br>>Ever heard <br>>about how popular eugenics was back in the day? <br><br>Eugenics? It’s more popular than ever. There’s nothing fundamentally wrong with wanting the next generation to be healthier, more beautiful and just plain better than its predecessors. It’s why everybody tries to mate with the most beautiful, most intelligent, most virtuous people they can get their hands on! Of course, when the State gets involved – especially a fascist state – it becomes an altogether different kind of beast. Which reminds me, have you ever heard of the Ringworm Children?<br><br>>As far as the magazine: <br>>On a basic level,<br>>It's also TRUE that they are all men. <br>>If I did a magazine specifically pointing out that (male <br>>power) was at the base root of the problems we are <br>>facing, would that mean I was right?<br><br>The vast majority of movers and shakers in the West, of all political persuasions, are men. If every man in politics held the exact same political views and goals, and they did their damnedest to keep those views and goals hidden from the general public lest they be democratically rejected, you might have a point. But they don’t. So you don’t.<br><br>>(Assuming yr not <br>>a hardcore feminist). Would people be wrong if they <br>>accused me of being anti-male?<br><br>That would depend on your arguments and evidence. As a man, myself, I find some truth in the idea that a surfiet of testosterone may be behind many societal ills.<br><br>>Why can't you "anti-semites" (w/o going into <br>>definitions)<br>>ever just come out and call a spade a spade? <br><br>So I’m an anti-Semite now, am I? Tell you what, Chief. I have nearly seven years worth of Internet journalism and satire under my belt – five days a week, thousands of pages – nearly half of which are archived for all the world to see, completely free of charge. You can access my writings at Dirtfiles.com. I challenge you to go and find any evidence in support of your vile and pernicious slander. <br><br>>I'd explain this to 12 people and I bet 8 would say he's <br>>racist. <br><br>With YOU explaining it? I don’t doubt it. Giving them the magazine and letting them read it for themselves, on the other hand, might yield far less irrational results.<br><br>>I would say common sense. <br>>Of course, you would <br>>probably blame that on holocaust museum- style Z-<br>>brainwashing. And that would make you anti-semitic, <br>>btw. <br><br>So now I’m a Holocaust denier. Jeff, what recourse do board participants have against this kind of smear?<br><br>>Fact: There's nothing worse than closet racism, and it <br>>reeks wherever there are large groupings of white (esp <br>>wasp) people. <br><br>Are you even capable of recognizing the irony in what you just wrote?<br><br>>If you don't see what he is doing as anti-<br>>semitic, you're not being honest. Face it, you see the <br>>fact that most (not all) jews support zionism, so do the <br>>math...<br><br>Most (not all) Germans supported Hitler during his reign. By your logic, being anti-Nazi would have automatically made one anti-German. And today, by your logic, it would be utterly impossible to criticize the state of Israel, no matter what they did. <br><br>Fact: Zionism is a POLITICAL movement. And you’re right, I’m against it. I’m against it because I have researched it in depth, thought about it, and come to my own conclusions. If you care to discuss this more in depth, we can.<br><br>>On a more down-to-earth level, the fact is that Lasn <br>>is a virulent anti-semite, and anybody who has spent <br>>any time among the left, or around his org, such as <br>>myself, knows that. <br><br>Your evidence is overwhelming. Of course Lasn is an anti-Semite! Because he’s an Estonian who was born during World War II, and has worked in the film industry, obviously, he MUST be a Nazi! And a spy, to boot! For Hitler’s brain, no doubt. Why, it’s a wonder they didn’t hang the wee Blackshirt at Nuremberg!<br><br>>But I doubt you and I have any common ground, <br>>because you smell alot like a Nazi-symp.<br><br>Our lack of common ground has nothing to do with any Nazi sympathies on my part, and everything to do with your own prejudice and hysteria. I am unabashedly against fascism in all its forms. That’s why I am against the Far Right in American politics, and everywhere else in the world. Including Israel. <br><br>Unlike you, I hate ALL fascists, regardless of their religion or race.<br> <p></p><i></i>
