Question from a newbie

[rosesaylavee]

Posted this earlier on DU and discussion was 'locked'. Someone suggested I go over here so.. here I am with my first post. Just looking for some sources to explore this - not trying to cause trouble...<br><br>A rw relative has suggested that perhaps the * Admin could have delayed help to NO because of NO's Colombian Drug Cartels needing to remove their stash of supplies from the area first...<br><br>Before you put on your tinfoil hats - hear me out and if you have additional information, please add on...<br><br>I have been trying to figure out all week how this benefited * and his gang. And if the above has a kernel of truth in it, it would explain the money end of things and also why there were snipers perhaps.<br><br>Did a google before I posted and came up with this site <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/bushcheney.html">www.nexusmagazine.com/art...heney.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> discussing Bush and Cheney's connection with Halliburton and the international drug trade.<br><br>If anything, there are deeper issues at work here other than race, greed and general stupidity on their part. <br><br>Help me build this up if there is truth here or prove to me I need a tinfoil hat.<br> <p></p><i></i>

[DrDebugDU]

RI is conspiracy theorists central. Every school of thought should be looked at.<br><br>It is an interesting point. The mayor talked about New Orleans being over run by drug dealers and drug users and as you know: "If you think crack. Don't think black. Think CIA" ( <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.archive.org/details/ctc">www.archive.org/details/ctc</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> )<br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://ia300131.us.archive.org/0/items/ctc/ctc.thumbs/ctc_00000030.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>The Bush family started the CIA drug trade. It was rumoured that George H.W. Bush started the drug trade with his oil platforms. We know for a fact that the first major drug problems in the US started in the Miami area in the early 60s and that is the same time that Poppy Bush was starting his oil platforms with Zapata.<br><br>So the Bush family know a lot about the drug trade and George W. Bush was involved in Startford ( <!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/Stratford">demopedia.democraticunderground.com/index.php/Stratford</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--> ) which was probably a front for cocaine smuggling from Central America into the US and that was George W.'s first job.<br><br>So if you have more of this story, please post it in full.<br><br>As far as the CIA-drug links go. You should visit Mike Ruppert's site ( http://www.fromthewilderness.com ) because Mike is an expert on the CIA-drug connection since he was a former LAPD officer. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=drdebugdu>DrDebugDU</A> at: 9/3/05 4:54 pm<br></i>

[rosesaylavee]

Thanks for the kind reply. Will continue looking and will post when I have something that I can provide backup to. <p></p><i></i>

[chiggerbit]

This brings to mind someone's post here at RI, I think in one of the threads about Camp Casey. Had to do with a Mexican man whose son was killed in Iraq, and this father was sure it was because the son was ready to report the drug use and dealing that was going on there. <p></p><i></i>

[slimmouse]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>This brings to mind someone's post here at RI, I think in one of the threads about Camp Casey. Had to do with a Mexican man whose son was killed in Iraq, and this father was sure it was because the son was ready to report the drug use and dealing that was going on there<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END-->. <br><br> Surely it isnt uncommon knowledge to my fellow posters who controls the drug trade ?<br><br> Under the Taliban, Opium production had virtually been eliminated, according to UN figures. Those same people - The UN - said that last year, with 30,000 American troops in place, that the opium crop was a record .<br> <br> coinkydink no doubt <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> And to help you, look at the US, or should I say CIA involvement in the drugs trade, look no further than South America, the home of the Coca plant.<br><br> It really isnt rocket science to any poster on this forum to work out who are really running the "illegal" drugs business <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :D --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br> I posted a link on an alternative forum a while back, helped I have to say by Antiaristos mindblowing revelations, trying to explain why it was significant that the top British Judicial appointee, along with a fellow QC was appointed in a " groundbreaking trial" to convict an Afghan warlord for "crimes against humanity". <br><br> To sum it up, his real crime, was to OPPOSE the drug trade. So they bring in the BIG guns to deal with this guy, in order to send a message to those in the know, about what happens to those who oppose the drug trade . <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=slimmouse@rigorousintuition>slimmouse</A> at: 9/3/05 5:15 pm<br></i>

[DrDebugDU]

About George H.W. Bush starting the drugs operation.<br><br>The problem with the evidence is that it is based on the Majestic 12 documents of William Cooper and even though the documents were witnessed by Cooper during his military service, he later came to the conclusion that it was intentional disinformation. The Majestic 12 documents deal with the alien question (which is a real kook subject), however they mention that George H.W. Bush was assigned to corner the illegal drugs market.<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><br>The ruling powers decided that one means of funding the alien connected and other black market projects was to corner the illegal drug market. A young ambitious member of the Council on Foreign Relations was approached. His name is George Bush who at the time was president and C.E.O. of Zapata Oil based in Texas. Zapata Oil was experimenting with the new technology of offshore drilling. It was correctly thought that the drugs could be shipped from South America to the offshore platforms by fishing boat where it would then be taken to shore by the normal transportation used for supplies and personnel. By this method, no customs or law enforcement agency would subject the cargo to search. George Bush agreed to help and organized the operation in conjunction with the CIA. The plan worked better than anyone had thought and has since expanded worldwide and there are now many other methods of bringing the illegal drugs into the country. It must always be remembered though that George Bush began sale of drugs to our children. The CIA now controls all the world's illegal drug markets.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/mj12_3.html">www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/mj12_3.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>So the problem with the document is:<br>1) the person who discovered it said later that it was intentional disinformation.<br>2) it is about aliens which invalidates it to most people.<br>3) William Cooper was murdered on November 2001<br><br>However the alien part could be the disinformational part in order to hide the real agenda for the document and that was to corner the illegal drug market <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=drdebugdu>DrDebugDU</A> at: 9/3/05 5:16 pm<br></i>

[rosesaylavee]

Thanks for the sources, guys. I have some reviewing and catch up to do. Will post new info if I can find it. One of my posts at DU was not locked from earlier this afternoon and someone on there pointed me toward this - <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4600020&mesg_id=4600137">www.democraticunderground...id=4600137</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>I find it all too odd. Maybe it is just incompetence but it would have to be across the board incompetence with hundreds of private and govt relief workers which I find not probable. <br><br>I do appreciate your willingness to discuss. <p></p><i></i>

[DrDebugDU]

I don't believe in incompetence. It is a cheap excuse to hide behind. The whole story about New Orleans stinks. Eloriel has already managed to gather enormous amount of weird story and the data dump ('Martial Law in NO') on this board has over 200 posts already as well. There is a lot more going on than just mere incompetence, they are either exploiting the disaster or they are preventing it from being handled.<br><br>All aid has been turned back and people haven't been allowed to leave and when the help arrived it coincided with the President and with the media crew. A tremendously large psyops operation has been played at the people as well.<br><br>If the rescue workers were allowed to follow their heart and mind then the problem would be solved, since the rescue worker always solve a problem at the spot. Even if it is impossible to solve, they'll find a solution, because that's the immense power of the human mind. All it took was to let the rescue workers go the people and it would be solved. That has been shown time and time again for centuries all over the world. The reason why this disaster is still unsolved is because the rescue workers aren't allowed to follow their mind and heart. At least that's my view. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=drdebugdu>DrDebugDU</A> at: 9/3/05 5:53 pm<br></i>

[rosesaylavee]

My opinion too. Too many stories of people trying to help and being turned away. There's gotta be more to this story than we are being told in MSM. <p></p><i></i>

[Dreams End]

The delay was so that the survivors will die. That's the best I can figure...and to buy some time to hide the bodies. <p></p><i></i>