Wedding Crashers

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

(I just posted this elsewhere but it is applicable so repeat repeat repeat and connect.)<br><br>Ah, yes. 'The Taming of the Shrew' and surviving the Song of the Sirens. Lash yourself to the ship of state and dont be a whimp!<br><br>There is an ongoing 'witch burning' theme sustained by the National inSecurity State's need for warriors.<br><br>In a rule-by-tension society it is SEXUAL tension that is the strongest to harness. This is where the ages old 'gender war' is intentionally inflamed to keep men from listening to women and become nurturers instead of killers.<br><br>Keeping men afraid of and suspicious of women is part of military intelligence training to keep those 'honeypots' from trapping male agents and this is applied to the culture at large in CIA-influenced popular media to keep a male-dominated society with a predictable baseline of military recruits and domestic violence.<br><br>I have a 1962 book of Esquire magazine's 'What Every Man Should Know' with several pages of CIA recruiting in the 'careers' section. The book is for the 'entitled' white male Ivy League set and is very racist and sexist. It portrays women as dangerous sirens to be mastered. This is the culture of male dominance within elite control groups which was at first nasty and instinctive and then made deliberate and systemic.<br><br>------------------------------<br>crossposted-<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Fascism is a domination cult, a MALE domination cult.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Here are the titles listed in Yahoo's 'Movies' page where current release themes are amplified with universal ones of-<br>>be afraid and fight back (war/recruiting)<br>>listen to Father at home, church, and state (follow the 'leader')<br>>you are watched (obey/resistance is futile)<br><br>The latest Disney animation of 'Chicken Little is LOADED with male domination themes. Disney even took Mickey Mouse off their Disney Dollars to replace him with the father-pleasing 'Chicken Little.' There is no mother figure and the females in the film are either hostiles OR "addicted to self-help books." <br>Hmm...<br><br>Yahoo film box online 3/25/06-<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Opening This Weekend<br>· Inside Man<br>· Larry the Cable Guy<br>· Stay Alive<br> <br>Also In Theaters<br>· V for Vendetta<br>· She's the Man<br>· Find Me Guilty<br> <br>Hot New Trailers<br>· The Da Vinci Code<br>· Mission: Impossible III<br>· Basic Instinct 2<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Anybody else see a pattern?<br><br>Fourthbase wrote:<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Repeated shots of the Washington monument.<br><br>"Grab that net and catch that beautiful butterfly, pal!"<br>Butterfly = Monarch?<br><br>"She had to have her sweet sixteen on her thirteenth birthday!"<br><br>They even go on a quail hunt.<br>And Vaughn gets shot in the ass.<br>There's mention of "The Most Dangerous Game".<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>The phallic Washington Monument? Hmm.<br>Catching pretty women like trophies?<br>Women 'lie about age and virginity'?<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>A SHOOTING INCIDENT LIKE CHENEY'S??!!</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>Seems to me women are frequently whistleblowers (less go along to get along as one of the boys plus more committed to the integrity of the group) and are made examples of in the media to chill them and reinforce male contempt and suspicion.<br><br>Naaah. It's just mega-million dollar entertainment, right? <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 3/25/06 12:55 pm<br></i>

[Ted the dog]

personally, I'm hoping "all will be revealed" after I see "Larry The Cable Guy". <p></p><i></i>

[FourthBase]

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0396269/">www.imdb.com/title/tt0396269/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Bob Fisher and Steve Faber also wrote for:<br><br>"The Trouble With Normal"<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0247122/">www.imdb.com/title/tt0247122/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Plot Outline: The misadventures of four paranoid young men whose fear of urban conspiracy leads them to seek counseling in a therapy group run by therapist Claire Garletti.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br>The episodes they wrote...<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.tv.com/the-trouble-with-normal/say-cheese/episode/63671/summary.html">www.tv.com/the-trouble-wi...mmary.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"Say Cheese"<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>A big company, Xenocorp, buys Bob and Zack's building, and after a lobby party, the guys notice that there's a new surveillance camera installed, which makes them scared about being watched 24/7. So Claire tells them that it's not like that at all, and offers to call the company herself and complain about the new camera. The guys warn her about the risks of doing so, and how the company will come after her if she shows signs of dissatisfaction. Skeptical about it, Claire makes the call. When she gets home, she starts to suffer all that the guys mentioned: her apartment is suddenly available for rent, her water and heat go off, and she receives a smoked fish, which she interprets as a sign like in "The God Father". She decides then to go to the company herself, and unexpectedly runs into the president. He clarifies her that it was all an accident and she feels safe again.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.tv.com/the-trouble-with-normal/spy-vs.-guy/episode/74560/summary.html">www.tv.com/the-trouble-wi...mmary.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>"Spy Vs. Guy"<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>It's Saturday night, and everyone's got a date. That is, except for Max and Stansfield. Zack's old girlfriend, an FBI agent, ran into him and asked him out. In the morning after, Zack freaks when she starts asking questions like "how do you like your eggs?" and thinks she's only back with him to investigate him. On the therapy session, Claire says that sharing is an important step in the beginnings of any relationship, and if it wasn't for that, her last date wouldn't have ended in such a fiasco. Bob is very happy because he and Kristen share everything. In fact, he planned to take her on a trip to Vermont - until she tells him that Vermont reminded her of an old boyfriend and she decided to go back to him. Zack is convinced that sharing is good and apologizes to Dora. Max and Stansfield decide to spend time with each other, until they share too much.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br>They didn't write this next one, but it's still interesting...<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.tv.com/the-trouble-with-normal/unconventional-behavior/episode/63670/summary.html">www.tv.com/the-trouble-wi...mmary.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Claire advises the guys not to date anyone from the conspiracy convention they're going, trying to spare them from dating wackos. Claire's boyfriend, who she really thinks is a great guy, turns out to have a booth at the convention, and so Claire has to dump him because he's a wacko. Meanwhile, Bob is the only one who has the guts to tell Zack that he thinks his marriage is a mistake, and the two have a fight.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br>Any relation between the title and the Bruce Cockburn song?<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Strikes across the frontier and strikes for higher wage<br>Planet lurches to the right as ideologies engage<br>Suddenly it's repression, moratorium on rights<br>What did they think the politics of panic would invite?<br>Person in the street shrugs -- "Security comes first"<br>But the trouble with normal is it always gets worse<br><br>Callous men in business costume speak computerese<br>Play pinball with the 3rd world trying to keep it on its knees<br>Their single crop starvation plans put sugar in your tea<br>And the local 3rd world's kept on reservations you don't see<br>"It'll all go back to normal if we put our nation first"<br>But the trouble with normal is it always gets worse<br><br>Fashionable fascism dominates the scene<br>When ends don't meet it's easier to justify the means<br>Tenants get the dregs and landlords get the cream<br>As the grinding devolution of the democratic dream<br>Brings us men in gas masks dancing while the shells burst<br>The trouble with normal is it always gets worse<br><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=fourthbase>FourthBase</A> at: 4/4/06 1:34 am<br></i>

[steve vegas]

English is my wife's second language so she enjoys this type of movie as the plots are generally easier to follow and it doesn't matter so much if you miss some of the dialogue...now I have a reason to watch as well, sounds like a Friday night. I'll commence downloading immediately. I personally believe that all entertainment coming out of Hollywood is coded and layered with meaning, even if it's just subliminal programming to buy more of their crap. <p></p><i></i>

[Byrne]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Plot involves the marriage between two powerful families:<br>The <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Clearys</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> and the Lodges<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Has Anti seen it?!!!<br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=byrne@rigorousintuition>Byrne</A> at: 4/4/06 11:05 am<br></i>

[Ted the dog]

OK, I'm going to watch this again tonight. <p></p><i></i>

[FourthBase]

So, did anyone watch it again? <p></p><i></i>

[professorpan]

I thought it was a terrible movie. Painful to watch, in fact. I laughed once -- at Will Ferrell when he was screaming.<br><br>And does anyone else see the resemblance of Owen Wilson's lips to a sphincter?<br><br>The only undercurrent in the film, alas, is mind-numbing banality. <p></p><i></i>

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Can you see it as a gender war polemic portraying 'the war between the sexes' as the same as war elsewhere?<br><br>Women as the enemy etc.? Not to be trusted? <p></p><i></i>

[FourthBase]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The only undercurrent in the film, alas, is mind-numbing banality.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>So there's no espionage subtext? <p></p><i></i>

[professorpan]

There's no espionage subtext that I could discern, for whatever my 2 cents are worth these days. I read all the posts positing such a subtext, and I don't see it. <p></p><i></i>

[Ted the dog]

lol....I tried to watch it again....I got about halfway through and just got bored and annoyed. I did, however get to some of the scenes with the child-like redhead. and yeah, it is strange how that transition is made in the film....from child-like teenager, fascinated with a new boy to sadistic, demanding, adult she-bitch.<br><br><br>And PP, yeah, I also was thinking the same thing...Wilson's lips DO look like a sphincter in that one. His face is actually very weird throughout the entire movie...it's like they piled high gloss pink and white and baby blue face powder all over him. he just has this frozen-in-mid-expression look through the whole film.<br><br><br>not to open a new can of worms.....but have any of you ever watched that show Degrassi: The Next Generation? <p></p><i></i>

[steve vegas]

the scene where v.v. and the girl are walking down the staircase...i can't remember what the girl says, but it was a huge tip off...i wrote it down somewhere...it's basically a veiled reference to hypnotic/alter states ...i definitely think fourthbase is right, but i also agree w/an earlier comment that the writers are "hip to the zeitgeist of elite deviance"...i think there may be some combination there...also, what a piece of crap, really hard to watch and really tiresome/offensive...sick sexist bullshit, warped female roles, infantile males, really pathetic...as often happens with current comedies i didn't laugh once... <p></p><i></i>

[FourthBase]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>There's no espionage subtext that I could discern, for whatever my 2 cents are worth these days. I read all the posts positing such a subtext, and I don't see it.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--> <br><br>So when they case the weddings using dossiers?<br>The fact that they infiltrate gatherings of different nationalities? <p></p><i></i>

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Adding to the usual competitive male dominance themes to support militarism and capitalism, we are now inundated with movies that describe a world where everyone has something to hide and aren't we glad that Big Brother is looking over everyone's shoulder to protect us from each other.<br><br>'The Brick' is about a high school student whose ex-girlfriend disappears into a hidden drug world which he must navigate using technology against an arch villain called 'Pin.' <br>The local theater has a huge user's guide poster from the producers in the lobby with a glossary of all the jargon used in the film.<br><br>Even that kid from Malcolm in the Middle got a series of kid spy films akin to Inspector Gadget for tweens.<br><br>This is the Cold War all over with the glitz of consumer toys to amplify it as entertaining foot-in-the-psychic-door to normalize the National inSecurity State run using the Nazi Surveillance Agency to carry out the Totally Illegal America-I mean-Total Information Awareness program.<br><br>Have they re-released the 'I Spy' tv series yet? <br>Oops. Don't want to portray blacks sympathetically while a post-Katrina re-demonization campaign is rolling over America's poor again. Ronald Reagan is not dead enough.<br><br>Glad to see that two Duke lacrosse players were arrested despite the 'lacrosstitutes' media mind mangling ABC article suggesting perhaps this black mother of two really wanted to be gang-banged by white racist frat boys.<br><br>Sorry, bad day here. "Free association is not free." <p></p><i></i>