Wedding Crashers

[FourthBase]

You should browse through some Christmas gifts catalogs.<br>Multiple pages of "spy-gifts" for kids. <p></p><i></i>

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

'Meet the Fokkers.' - just loveable amusing spooks.<br><br>'The Incredibles.' - the whole family can fight evil.<br><br>'The Truman Show.' - clever. Harry Truman show.<br><br>'Return of the Pink Panther.' - oh those effete bumbling Frenchies. <p></p><i></i>

[steve vegas]

OK, the thing that really stood out, was, Vince Vaughn and the girl are walking down the stairs, and she says, "When I was a little girl I had all these imagnary friends that spoke different languages". There was plenty more, but that for me was the big blinking red light. <p></p><i></i>

[Connut]

Great movie, funny as hell, pokes fun at everything. Personally, I've seen it at least four times. Sometimes a hotdog is just a hotdog. <p></p><i></i>

[professorpan]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>OK, the thing that really stood out, was, Vince Vaughn and the girl are walking down the stairs, and she says, "When I was a little girl I had all these imagnary friends that spoke different languages". There was plenty more, but that for me was the big blinking red light.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I fail to see why that's indicative of anything. Methinks too many RI regulars are caught in a blinkered world in which everything is filtered through a smeary conspiratorial lens. <p></p><i></i>

[FourthBase]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>So when they case the weddings using dossiers?<br>The fact that they infiltrate gatherings of different nationalities?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Still no espionage subtext, pan?<br><br>And seriously, the scene in which he's tied up and the artiste son molests him in bed, then the Walken father walks in...the scene in which Walken reminds him that he's a very powerful man...that doesn't ring bells? <p></p><i></i>

[professorpan]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Still no espionage subtext, pan?<br><br>And seriously, the scene in which he's tied up and the artiste son molests him in bed, then the Walken father walks in...the scene in which Walken reminds him that he's a very powerful man...that doesn't ring bells?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Nope. Just a rather dumb scene from a witless, laugh-free film. <p></p><i></i>

[FourthBase]

And the dossiers and wedding-infiltrations?<br>No espionage subtext?<br><br>p.s. I dare anyone (besides professorpan) to see that Vaughn-tied-up-in-bed scene and tell me there's no RI red flags/alarm bells. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=fourthbase>FourthBase</A> at: 5/5/06 5:25 pm<br></i>

[streeb]

Sorry - I don't see it. A wiener really is a wiener sometimes, in this case a pretty funny one, too. Plus, I just don't think Hollywood is very adept at the subtlety being implied here. <p></p><i></i>

[FourthBase]

I guess I have to remind everyone what the writers of "Wedding Crashers" had previously written? See the first page of this thread.<br><br>There is <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>no subtlety</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> to the dossiers.<br>Can I at least can an acknowledgement of that?<br><br>And re: the tied-up scene...you all see nothing blackmail-ish about the boy molesting a tied-up Vince Vaughn one moment and in the next moment the Walken character appears reminding Vaughn that he's a very powerful man? <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=fourthbase>FourthBase</A> at: 5/5/06 7:07 pm<br></i>

[streeb]

Maybe I'm letting my positive prejudice towards the cast get in the way. I mean, I really got a kick out of this movie, and the scene with Walken in the bedroom - with that painting - pretty much made me piss my pants. I'm an easy laugh, though. I'll watch it again with some of Fourth Base's arguments in mind. <p></p><i></i>

[FourthBase]

My interpretations of the movie need not be negative.<br>Couldn't the subtext of the movie be a subversive nod?<br>I don't think I've implied that the movie is sinister itself. <p></p><i></i>

[steve vegas]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I fail to see why that's indicative of anything. Methinks too many RI regulars are caught in a blinkered world in which everything is filtered through a smeary conspiratorial lens.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>It's only significant in the context of FourthBase's supposition that something more than meets the eye is going on in this insipid movie. Given the background of the writers and many of the memes used throughout, I'm inclined to agree. When viewing the movie from a "conspiracy" or "hidden message" perspective the girl's admission that she "had lots of imaginary friends that spoke different languages" could be indicative of something a little spooky and sinister. When viewed from the perspective of a couch potato it's just some more boring words between episodes of sexual stimulus or infantile attempts at humor. <br><br>This movie needn't have been set in DC, it could have been New York, LA, Chicago, anywhere, and it didn't have to highlight so many forms of deviance and tie them to a political family. I suppose our culture is so sick that things like bondage, predatory sexual practices, and permissive/oblivious attitudes are commonplace, and even "funny" but this was no "Porky's". The theme was far more twisted than the usual titties n' beer spectacle. <br><br>I was really just watching for any signs that might support FourthBase's argument, and that was what really jumped out to me.<br><br>MEthinks some RI regulars are basically not interested in conspiracy at all and only hang around to debunk. I'm all for critical thinking, but perhaps snopes or skepdicks or even quackwatch would be more suitable for some ;-) <p></p><i></i>

[thoughtographer]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>MEthinks some RI regulars are basically not interested in conspiracy at all and only hang around to debunk.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>Interested in conspiracy? Huh? Why does everyone have such a problem with opposing viewpoints around here?<br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I'm all for critical thinking, but perhaps snopes or skepdicks or even quackwatch would be more suitable for some<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>That would be convenient for you, wouldn't it? Maybe the ship of fools you're looking for has set sail already. Perhaps a game of "telephone" or a trip to a deep, echoey cave would be more suitable for you. <p><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>"A crooked stick will cast a crooked shadow."</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=thoughtographer>thoughtographer</A> at: 5/8/06 7:56 pm<br></i>

[steve vegas]

<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Interested in conspiracy? Huh? Why does everyone have such a problem with opposing viewpoints around here?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Who has a problem with opposing viewpoints? Why is my opposing viewpoint a problem?<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>That would be convenient for you, wouldn't it? Maybe the ship of fools you're looking for has set sail already. Perhaps a game of "telephone" or a trip to a deep, echoey cave would be more suitable for you.<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>Sorry, I was trying to be funny, just a little inside joke, hence the ;-), see that's a wink with a smile. <p></p><i></i>