Alice the Movie f/k/a Hugh Manatee Wins, your comments . . .

by **NewKid** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:14 am

<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0466663/" target="top">www.imdb.com/title/tt0466663/</a> Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=newkid@rigorousintuition>NewKid</A> at: 6/11/06 6:00 pm

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:42 am

(Might be helpful to edit the title of the movie into the thread. Ya certainly got my attention, NewKid. Thanks for this.) Before the movie is even made one can discern many contextual themes. I can think of pages worth but here is just a quick start because it is very late and you put my name on this thread so I'm answering some now. More later... Ruining the Lewis Carrol classic for a new generation, Alice becomes a 'Bruce Willis'-style ass-kicking action figure out for revenge in a movie PLUS a first-person fighter video game. The video game industry is trying to draw in females and so is the Pentagon and CIA, a match made in...anyway... A six year-old video game was the original source for this petrie dish of mind viruses which was described by a user as- <blockquote>Quote:<hr>...a good video game that is in the Tomb Raider vein. But it is too linear and at times it just comes down to fighting enemy after enemy and not much else besides.<hr></blockquote> From the film industry link for the coming 2007 movie above: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Genre: Action / Fantasy / Horror (more) Tagline: A strangely familiar, yet utterly wicked tale. Plot Outline: Years after her first experience in Wonderland, Alice (Gellar), now a disturbed young woman mourning the death of her parents, returns to the land of talking animals and the wicked Queen of Hearts.<hr></blockquote> The 2000 video game, also written by American Mcgee, has a more violent description- <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0251576/">www.imdb.com/title/tt0251576/</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Plot Outline: A game with an all new story that takes place after Lewis Carroll's stories. Alice must return to Wonderland and defeat the Queen of Hearts once and for all. <hr></blockquote> Lots of things going on here, more soon.

by **heyjt** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:14 pm

One pill makes you larger, the other makes you small... But the one that mother gives you, doesn't do anything at all...

by **Mentalgongfu** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 10:37 pm

I can't help but notice some similarity between the general theme of this Alice story line and that of the second wizard of oz movie - Return To Oz. As Wikipedia describes: <blockquote>Quote:<hr> The 1985 film Return to Oz is a motion picture arguably created as an unofficial sequel to The Wizard of Oz. It was made by Walt Disney Pictures and has no approval by MGM, the company that made the classic 1939 film (although MGM owned film rights to Wizard, Disney owned rights to most of the later Oz books). The film was directed by Walter Murch. It was not well received, particularly by those whose prior assumptions about Oz were based on the MGM film, however it has become a cult film to many adults and childern. snip... The movie's plot is a combination of L. Frank Baum's novels Ozma of Oz and The Marvelous Land of Oz, written as sequels to the original novel The Wonderful Wizard of Oz. Dorothy (played by Fairuza Balk) cannot stop thinking about the Land of Oz and her friends the Scarecrow, the Tin Woodman and the Cowardly Lion. Her worried aunt takes her to a doctor who wishes to "cure" Dorothy of her dreams and delusions with something like electro-shock therapy, but Dorothy escapes during a storm with a hen called Billina. She returns to Oz only to find it in a post-apocalyptic state: the yellow brick road is desecrated, the Emerald City is a collapsing ruin, all its inhabitants, including the Tin Woodman and the Cowardly Lion have been turned to stone, and the Scarecrow has been kidnapped by the Nome King. She is soon imprisoned by the wicked Princess Mombi (a composite of two characters from the books, Princess Langwidere and the witch Mombi).<hr></blockquote>

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:03 am

So in the middle of the Reagan Wars Against the Peaceful Poor the sequel showed that Oz needed its wizard behind the curtain or the Russkies and Negroes would destroy it. "It's never too late to have a traumatic childhood." Walt Disney is CIA mind viruses for kids, no doubt about it. It was in 1977, right after the CIA use of media was exposed during the 1975-76 Church Committee hearings, that the movie which most Americans equate with manipulated news came out, 'Network.' Well looky there, there is 'Network' in Borders again being re-released in a DVD 'Special Edition' with a sticker on it saying "All New Propaganda." Check the date it arrived at the store on the price sticker to see how recently it was pushed out in our faces. Lots of mind virus movies are being re-released to work the same themes they originally massaged with the excuse of a new format. Look at the featured videos in the front of the video section. War, strong male, weak female, occult, nationalism (when 'America' is in the title), that's pretty much it. Same with the front table featured books. Women get keywords like 'bitch' or 'slut' plus anti-Hilary agit prop while men have strong capable and noble attributes in titles like Tim Russert's 'The Wisdom of Our Fathers.' Funny how during the Zarqawi trial we got a re-release of King Kong with that iconic image of the beast on top of the Empire State Building. Ah, monster+ famous NYC building = 9/11. Re-runs work well. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 6/13/06 1:36 am

by **Attack Ships on Fire** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:01 am

I don't believe that the Universal "Oz" movie is really in any serious stage of development. The rights were sold a number of years ago and "Scream" director Wes Craven was developing it at first. It appears he's moved on to other projects. This may just be a case of a movie studio hedging a bet, taking a dip, seeing if there is interest in a post-modern Alice in Wonderland adventure. Every 10 or 20 years the movie studios try this, and the rights to Carroll's Alice came up recently (~10 years ago) I think into the public domain. Another work that's just about to come out that also liberally uses Alice, as well as Dorothy (from Oz) and Wendy (from Peter Pan), as young women in their early 20s, and uses these characters to tell surreal erotica tales. It's written by famed "Watchmen" writer Alan Moore and is called "Lost Girls". You can find more about the book at Amazon.com here: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0878164065/002-1326165-3272827?v=glance&n=283155.">www.amazon.com/gp/product...&n=283155.</a>

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:38 am

Seems the most recent projects in social engineering are for girls. Boys and their action-packed domination violence were sussed long ago. Easy pickins. But girls are now being brought into the military and spook world as never before. Besides making them active assets, perhaps this is also to reduce their peaceful influence on males while a Spartan police-state war culture is normalized. It only takes 10-15 years to change the culture by waving images in front of the young's mirror neurons so they grow in that direction like a sunflower following the sun. Shortly after Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Zena the Warrior hit TV, girls on playgrounds around America started hitting things, too. <a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/173133_girlfights13.html">seattlepi.nwsource.com/lo...hts13.html</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>While juvenile crime rates are down across the country, the gap is narrowing between boys -- who still commit the vast majority of violent offenses -- and girls, previously assumed to handle stress by withdrawing into depression. .... In 2001, arrests for aggravated assault among girls were up 82 percent over 1987 levels, while for boys they rose 9 percent, according to the Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention. Washington mirrors this trend. Between 1995 and 2002, violent offenses accounted for steadily increasing rates of arrest among girls; meanwhile, boys' rates dropped almost every year. "In our intake, they used to be all boys. Now it's about 50-50," said Elizabeth McCauley, interim director for children and adolescent psychiatry at Seattle's Children's Hospital and Regional Medical Center. "We are seeing more girls who are exhibiting their distress by being aggressive. I don't think we totally understand why."<hr></blockquote> Um...take a look at what the girls are looking at. Media. It has been 'officially accepted' since atleast 1982 that violent media causes violence in people. Exactly the desired affect for the National inSecurity State. <a href="http://www.psychologymatters.org/mediaviolence.html">www.psychologymatters.org...lence.html</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr> Of special concern has been the portrayal of violence, especially given psychologist Albert Bandura’s work on social learning and the tendency of children to imitate what they see (see <a href="http://www.psychologymatters.org/bandura2.html).">www.psychologymatters.org...ra2.html).</a> As a result of 15 years of consistently disturbing findings about the violent content of children’s programs, the Surgeon General’s Scientific Advisory Committee on Television and Social Behavior was formed in 1969 to assess the impact of violence on the attitudes, values and behavior of viewers. The resulting Surgeon General’s report and a follow-up report in 1982 by the National Institute of Mental Health identify these major effects of seeing violence on television:  * Children may become less sensitive to the pain and suffering of others * Children may be more fearful of the world around them * Children may be more likely to behave in aggressive or harmful ways toward others Research by psychologists L. Rowell Huesmann, Leonard Eron and others found that children who watched many hours of violence on television when they were in elementary school tended to also show a higher level of aggressive behavior when they became teenagers. By observing these youngsters into adulthood, Drs. Huesmann and Eron found that the ones who’d watched a lot of TV violence when they were eight years old were more likely to be arrested and prosecuted for criminal acts as adults. Interestingly, being aggressive as a child did not predict watching more violent TV as a teenager, suggesting that TV watching may more often be a cause rather than a consequence of aggressive behavior.<hr></blockquote> Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 6/13/06 1:23 am

by **Attack Ships on Fire** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:10 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Shortly after Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Zena the Warrior hit TV, girls on playgrounds around America started hitting things, too.<hr></blockquote> Buffy and Xena premiered around the mid-90s. My belief is that little girls were often hitting other little girls, and boys, on the school yards well before those two TV ladies made their appearance. If your thesis is based on a correlation between young female violence and the rise of action-adventure heroines on television in the 1990s, what about all the TV chicks that kicked ass and broke some heads from the 1970s, such as Charlie's Angels, Angie Dickenson in Police Woman and Lindsay Wagner in The Bionic Woman to name some of the major players? The only thing that's changed is that the product that's being created is being diversified to appeal (and use) characters that aren't just white and male. Look at children's TV as an example and the rise of Dora the Explorer: it was created primarily to appeal to Latino kids and the girl angle was secondary; instead, it's appealed to kids across both sexes and through demographics. Nickeleodeon didn't even know what to do when it was a hit, and the boy fans of Dora couldn't buy any toys or merchandise that wasn't completely aimed at girls. My opinion is that kids have been beating on kids for thousands of years. Watching Charlie's Angels or The Bionic Woman didn't make the girls I went to school with growing up any more violent than before those shows were on.

by **NewKid** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:02 am

How about the occult?

by **dugoboy** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 10:34 am

or the matrix? One pill makes you larger, the other makes you small... But the one that mother gives you, doesn't do anything at all... the blue pill makes you smaller, the red pill larger (more visible)? in matrix reloaded the oracle (supposed mother of the matrix) offers neo a red hard candy in the movie, which is merely a pacifier. in the first matrix she also offered neo a cookie. the symbolism of the cookie/candy is quite a good fight to have on matrix story forums. but ultimately what she gives neo does nothing at all but pacify. neo declined the candy in reloaded, where he took it quite like a happy puppy needing its mom might in matrix 1. follow the white rabbit...down the rabbit hole... ___________________________________________ "BUSHCO aren't incompetent...they are COMPLICIT." -Me "Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a revolutionary act" -George OrwellEdited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=dugoboy@rigorousintuition>dugoboy</A> at: 6/12/06 8:37 am

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:37 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>what about all the TV chicks that kicked ass and broke some heads from the 1970s<hr></blockquote> That was post-Vietnam re-militarization and the beginning of using women as part of the equation, just as we are seeing now. Recall all the military and spy themed media in the 1960s- Hogan's Heroes, Man From Uncle, Gomer Pyle, McHale's Navy, F Troop, Get Smart, James Bond, Wild Wild West, etc. etc. After the Vietnam War induced strong resistance in a generation all the stops were pulled out to remilitarize the culture and especially youth. But the required subtlety of inserting the mind viruses without triggering resistance spurred improving the black craft to match the more vigilant psychic battleground. "What doesn't kill me makes me stronger." Great example: Kung Fu. Remember all the gently non-violent peace-loving mystical tone? But there were ALWAYS bad guys who would win unless our peaceful hero had a secret way to KICK THEIR ASS. The fear of the unknown forces of asia are always pointing at China as dangerous. See Spielberg's 'The Terminal' starring Tom Hanks as a hapless visitor stuck in airport redtape limbo. The movie is a quilt of mind viruses about National Security, a real text book example of 'nesting' ideas inside others so you don't notice and resist. In the first moments a group of 'Chinese tourists' is portrayed as a gang of spies. The 'danger of China' theme is embedded in places you haven't consciously noticed. So under the guise of 'women's lib' institutions included women in new ways to use them as assets and as agit prop to stir up and better control men. The military calls this process 'force magnification.' The FBI's COINTELPRO office in San Francisco realized that the so-called feminist movement was useful for further dividing the New Left by encouraging women at peace meetings to look at the men and think 'hey-why are we putting up with sexism here?' Industry was only too glad to bring more women into the work force as cheap labor and to turn men's resentments towards them instead of towards management which is still a male power bastion to this day. Do you think 'That Girl' and 'The Mary Tyler Moore Show' and 'Bewitched' were messages about newly empowered women? All women in media are portrayed as either needy-childlike-kooky-unreliable, OR dangerously deceptive like witches or sirens with power men need to be wary of. "I Dream of Jeanie' perfectly combined both to suggest that a woman with power was like a child with a gun. This is how the appearance (if you are predisposed to see it) of social progress as representation in media is STILL weaponizing emotional themes of gender and nationalism. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 6/12/06 3:49 pm

by **TroubleFunk** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 6:03 pm

That's the song that the freak - what was the name - posted here when a poster "went missing". Scissor Sisters, was it? I didn't know it was based on a movie. Either way, a genuinely creepy song. I must be slippin' a little, I cannot for the life of me remember the details, though I'm loath to rehash it here anyway. The whole thing freaked me out badly (sickened me physically somewhat) and I went away from RI for a little while. p.s., I'll say it again - Hugh, you are a genius. You really should write a book.

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:08 pm

Joan of Arc, Jessica Lynch, Lyndie England, and Buffy. <img src="http://www.wittenburgdoor.com/images/stranger029.jpg" style="border:0;"/> All war is sold as religious war. That is, the 'moral' thing to do. I have a 1965 record of the 'Up With People' show "from the Schick Television Color Spectacular." It has approval pictures and blurbs on the cover from John Wayne, Pat Boone, and Walt Disney and it was put out by Moral Re-Armament, Inc.  Smell religious war yet? This pep rally was generated just as the Vietnam War was being marketed as the latest expression of national virtue and includes the song 'Freedom Isn't Free' plus a 19 year-old girl with a prop sword singing as Joan of Arc. Her blurb on the back cover is exactly the same as Buffy the Vampire Slayer's mandate. Here it is: <blockquote>Quote:<hr>"Our country needs a million Joans who are willing to fight God's battles-who will preserve the freedom and liberty that has made our country great."<hr></blockquote> The theme of the occult is pure psychological warfare. 'Good vs evil' with lots of irrational terror and violence. Perfect. For fascism, that is. That's why other countries are vigilant about ubiquitous American 'product' that's loaded with mind viruses flooding their media. And their kids eat it up. That's how the COUNTER-revolution is televised. There's a reason that Hugo Chavez is starting a Venezualan film industry. He doesn't want fascist values in the people. The movie version of 'Miami Vice' is about to come out and will keep demonizing hispanics south of the border, not the CIA-Penatgon that controls the drug markets which recently showed up in that plane with 5.5 tons of cocaine onboard. http://venezuelanalysis.com/news.php?newsno=1981<blockquote>Quote:<hr>Tuesday, Jun 06, 2006 Saturday, Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez inaugurated a new film studio complex aimed at challenging what he called “Hollywood’s cultural dictatorship”. “Through , with messages that don't belong to our traditions, rather they weaken our culture and our morality” said Chavez at the inauguration, according to the Venezuelan daily Ultimas Noticias. Chavez also accused Hollywood of portraying Latin Americans as violent criminals, thieves and drug traffickers and described the studio complex as a new weapon in Venezuela's "cultural artillery" against U.S. cultural domination. The Film Villa Foundation, situated in Guarenas, near Caracas, received an initial Ministry of Culture investment of over $8.3 million, less than a tenth the amount spent on the average Hollywood movie.<hr></blockquote> Our very own 'Alice the Curious' wrote this here at RI in another thread with movie analysis called 'How to Not Be Diverted, Demoralized, and Diffused. American TV is being used to destabilize the middle east's culture to induce its own '1960s' as intergenerational war much the same way that Zbigniew Brzezinski gave the Soviets their own 'Vietnam' in Afghanistan- http://p216.ezboard.com/frigorousintuitionfrm10.showMessageRange?topicID=3427.topic&start=41&stop=60<blockquote>Quote:<hr>...recurring themes that are being targetted at children and teens: 1) demonization of an enemy (literally!), who must be ruthlessly killed; 2) an embracing of irrational beliefs: reality is permeated and influenced by "dark forces" that can effectively be dealt with only by adepts and believers in the occult; and 3) logic and reason are ineffective at best, and often dangerous; 4) occult "knowledge" and practices lead to power, even for teenaged protagonists, sometimes even loners, with whom a young audience identifies; 5) constant association of sex-violence-occult ritual; 5) the association of youth, beauty, "coolness" with the occult.<hr></blockquote> <img src="http://www.wittenburgdoor.com/images/stranger051.jpg" style="border:0;"/> In studying the media massaging of females into warrior culture by hijacking moral themes I found this article at a website called 'The Wittenburg Door' that examines the abuses perpetrated in the name of religion. This 2002 article does a great job of discussing the moral theater in Buffy the Vampire Slayer where the Christian Crusades are marketed to a cynical and secular yet mission-hungry American youth. Fighting evil is an ancient primal theme for us but who is really friend or foe and what to do about it is where the fascist scam kicks in. As the article below says, "Multiple vampire-dusting ensues." I'm surprised the photos of Zarqawi's corpse didn't have a stake through his heart. Of course, IT DID. In our minds... Notice that Buffy's gang media-referentially is called 'The Scooby Doo Gang.' Total media immersion for three generations synthesizes a sum greater than the parts.  http://www.wittenburgdoor.com/archives/buffy.html <blockquote>Quote:<hr>The people are paralyzed by indecision, ennui or terminal cynicism. Meanwhile, the ozone layer is perforated, glaciers are melting, and crazies set wildfires that denude the landscape. While Generation X passes the baton to Generation Y, adolescence is still hell, AND THERE'S ONLY ONE LETTER LEFT! We need someone who can not only deconstruct the problem of evil, but kick it's hiney; someone with a preternatural sense of comic timing and an eye for fashion. We need Buffy. ..... Hidden among the stupid sitcoms, copycat dramas and reality shows of broadcast TV, Buffy the Vampire Slayer has been acting out a modern-day morality play for seven seasons, delivering what a growing number of critics say is the edgiest show on television, dealing with topics like evil, redemption, resurrection, sex, guilt, existential angst, selflessness and sacrifice, religion and the occult, often all before the first commercial break. Joss Whedon, the screenwriter of Toy Story and Speed, created Buffy in the 1992 movie of the same name. When the TV series began in 1997, he was free to expand of the basic story: An ancient prophecy foretells, "In every generation there is a chosen one. She alone will stand against the vampires, the demons and the forces of darkness. She is the slayer." Buffy, a high school student (now in college) in Sunnydale, Calif., discovers that she's the vampire slayer, and that her town sits on a "hellmouth" where demons are constantly trying to make an opening to escape from perdition. They take over human bodies, turning them into vampires. The cast of characters includes Giles, Buffy's Watcher, a walking encyclopedia of the occult who works for the Council, the shadowy group that oversees the slayers; her friends, the Scooby Gang, a reference to Scooby Doo, Where Are You?, Hanna Barbera's mystery cartoon that originally aired from 1969-1972 whose characters chased monsters every week; and a shifting gang of human and undead friends and enemies who alternately help and hinder her mission. ..... The vampire says, "He (the Lord) was supposed to be here. He gave us this address. Well, we'll just have to start killing off His people, see if He shows up." Buffy arrives, enters the church and closes the door. Vampire: "I told the cops, they send any one in, I start the whole massacre thing." Buffy: "Well, I'm not the cops. I just come to pray." Vampire: "Now's a good time to start." Buffy: "You're not gonna kill these people." Vampire: "Why not?" Buffy: "Because it's wrong" (Multiple vampire-dusting ensues). So in effect, the Lord does show up in the form of the Chosen One, the Vampire Slayer. <hr></blockquote> Ah, "the Chosen One." The Master Race is made of the same psychic themes as articulated by General Boykin, the Undersecretary of Defence for Intelligence (!). http://www.counterpunch.org/brauchli10132004.html<blockquote>Quote:<hr>General Boykin is an evangelical Christian, a General in the United States Army and the undersecretary of defense for intelligence. Much of his time has been devoted to giving speeches extolling the virtues of his God and putting down that of others. He has told audiences, among other things that Christians worship "a real God" and non-Christians revere "an idol." He has described Mr. Bush's battle in Iraq as a battle against Satan who "wants to destroy us as a Christian army." He has said that Islamic terrorists would only be defeated if "we come at them in the name of Jesus." Commenting on the capture of Somali warlord, Osman Ato, he told one audience that: "Well, you know what, I knew that my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol." Following Mr. Ato's capture the general went into his cell and said: "Mr. Ato, you underestimated our God." He correctly told one audience that "[T]he majority of Americans did not vote for him [Bush]." Ignoring the role of the United States Supreme Court he went on to say, less correctly that: "He's in the White House because God put him there for a time such as this." <hr></blockquote> Men have embraced religious war for eons. Now Buffy and Alice can bring women into the fight. Scientific fascism accomplished. <img src="http://www.wittenburgdoor.com/images/stranger052.jpg" style="border:0;"/> Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 6/12/06 7:36 pm

by **Hugh Manatee Wins** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:28 pm

ASoF wrote- <blockquote>Quote:<hr>My opinion is that kids have been beating on kids for thousands of years.<hr></blockquote> When TV is introduced into a culture all hell breaks loose mirroring the hell on the TV. Because we learn through imitation. That's what those mirror neurons in the brain are for, to pick up the group's survival skills. Atleast used to. Now they are picking up dysfunction intentionally put there for control purposes. As I already wrote in another thread, isn't it odd that in Stanley Kubrick's 'A Clockwork Orange' that the opposite message is given, that watching lots of violence reduces aggression? Hmm. Perhaps ole Stanley was running our ball of understanding the wrong way down the field to score different goals for a secret team. Or just getting it wrong for art. <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/weekend/story/0,3605,975769,00.html">www.guardian.co.uk/weeken...69,00.html</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr>Fast forward into trouble Saturday June 14, 2003 Four years ago, Bhutan, the fabled Himalayan Shangri-la, became the last nation on earth to introduce television. Suddenly a culture, barely changed in centuries, was bombarded by 46 cable channels. And all too soon came Bhutan's first crime wave - murder, fraud, drug offences. Cathy Scott-Clark and Adrian Levy report from a country crash-landing in the 21st century. <hr></blockquote> Even the all-too neo-con bastion of Stanford University has studies clearly showing the connection between media and violent behavior- <a href="http://www.killology.com/stanfordstudy.htm">www.killology.com/stanfordstudy.htm</a> <blockquote>Quote:<hr> Earlier this year Stanford released a landmark study demonstrating a 50% decrease in verbal aggression, and a 40% decrease in physical aggression, just by encouraging kids to turn off their TVs and video games. .... Thomas N. Robinson, an assistant professor of medicine at Stanford and the study's lead author, stated that: "What this says is there is something you can do in a practical way, in a real-world setting, and see the effects." .... In July, 2000, a joint statement was made to the US Congress by the AMA, the APA, the American Academy of Pediatrics, and the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry. What they said was: "Well over 1,000 studies point overwhelmingly to a causal connection between media violence and aggressive behavior in some children."<hr></blockquote> Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 6/12/06 7:38 pm

by **NewKid** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:29 am

Hugh, we're all familiar with Candy Jones and similar sorts of mind control stories from a prior generation. To what extent, if any, are the starlets of today in a similar position? And the Kubrick reference reminded me to ask you for an executive summary of your views on Eyes Wide Shut. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=newkid@rigorousintuition>NewKid</A> at: 6/12/06 10:29 pm

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