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friday news dump: detainment widens scope-they are ignoring

Postby yesferatu » Sat Jul 29, 2006 10:06 pm

everything and everyone and pressing forward with police state policies. <br><br><<By Anne Plummer Flaherty, Associated Press Writer | July 28, 2006<br>WASHINGTON --U.S. citizens suspected of terror ties might be detained indefinitely and barred from access to civilian courts under legislation proposed by the Bush administration, say legal experts reviewing an early version of the bill.<br>A 32-page draft measure is intended to authorize the Pentagon's tribunal system, established shortly after the 2001 terrorist attacks to detain and prosecute detainees captured in the war on terror. The tribunal system was thrown out last month by the Supreme Court.<br>Administration officials, who declined to comment on the draft, said the proposal was still under discussion and no final decisions had been made.<br>Senior officials are expected to discuss a final proposal before the Senate Armed Services Committee next Wednesday.<br>According to the draft, the military would be allowed to detain all "enemy combatants" until hostilities cease. The bill defines enemy combatants as anyone "engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners who has committed an act that violates the law of war and this statute."<br>Legal experts said Friday that such language is dangerously broad and could authorize the military to detain indefinitely U.S. citizens who had only tenuous ties to terror networks like al Qaeda.<br>"That's the big question ... the definition of who can be detained," said Martin Lederman, a law professor at Georgetown University who posted a copy of the bill to a Web blog.<br>Scott L. Silliman, a retired Air Force Judge Advocate, said the broad definition of enemy combatants is alarming because a U.S. citizen loosely suspected of terror ties would lose access to a civilian court -- and all the rights that come with it. Administration officials have said they want to establish a secret court to try enemy combatants that factor in realities of the battlefield and would protect classified information.<br>The administration's proposal, as considered at one point during discussions, would toss out several legal rights common in civilian and military courts, including barring hearsay evidence, guaranteeing "speedy trials" and granting a defendant access to evidence. The proposal also would allow defendants to be barred from their own trial and likely allow the submission of coerced testimony.<br>Senior Republican lawmakers have said they were briefed on the general discussions and have some concerns but are awaiting a final proposal before commenting on specifics.<br>Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England are expected to discuss the proposal in an open hearing next Wednesday before the Senate Armed Services Committee. Military lawyers also are scheduled to testify Wednesday before the Senate Judiciary Committee.<br>The legislation is the administration's response to a June 29 Supreme Court decision, which concluded the Pentagon could not prosecute military detainees using secret tribunals established soon after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. The court ruled the tribunals were not authorized by law and violated treaty obligations under the Geneva Conventions, which established many international laws for warfare.<br>The landmark court decision countered long-held assertions by the Bush administration that the president did not need permission from Congress to prosecute "enemy combatants" captured in the war on terror and that al Qaeda members were not subject to Geneva Convention protections because of their unconventional status.<br>"In a time of ongoing armed conflict, it is neither practicable nor appropriate for enemy combatants like al Qaeda terrorists to be tried like American citizens in federal courts or courts-martial," the proposal states.<br>The draft proposal contends that an existing law -- passed by the Senate last year after exhaustive negotiations between the White House and Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. -- that bans cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment should "fully satisfy" the nation's obligations under the Geneva Conventions.<br>Sen. John W. Warner, R-Va., chairman of the Armed Services Committee, said Friday he expects to take up the detainee legislation in September.<br>------<br>On the Net:<br>A copy of the report can be found at: <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://balkin.blogspot.com/">balkin.blogspot.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--> >><br><br><!--EZCODE LINK START--><a href="http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/07/28/bush_submits_new_terror_detainee_bill/">www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/07/28/bush_submits_new_terror_detainee_bill/</a><!--EZCODE LINK END--><br><br>Shit they are not even wording it to keep the alarm down: ""engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners" ....not even wording it to specify <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>acts</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> of hostilities....but rather simply engaged in hostilities. <br>They are coming out with this at the height of a push back from the sane element who feel the constitution means something. I was feeling better that more and more voices were questioning the end-around policies of the Bush cabal. I had no idea the WH would push back with something like this. I have no doubt they now want to provoke a constitutional crisis. Or rather, I should say, they want to provoke the ultimate backing down from those who could make a constitutional crisis. This is very big. They want something to happen. <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=yesferatu@rigorousintuition>yesferatu</A> at: 7/29/06 8:08 pm<br></i>
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Re: Sen. Lindsey Graham tried to deceive the court last time

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat Jul 29, 2006 10:56 pm

John Dean exposed this on legal website. <br><br>A little complicated but basically Senators Kyl and Graham tried to make it seem as if they had discussed on the Senate floor allowing the tribunals to not be retroactive <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>but what they had really done was insert false dialogue into the record</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END-->, if I understand this right.<br><br>The Supreme Court recognized the deception and didn't accept the amicus brief from the two liars.<br><br>But I'm sure the Operation Mockingbird press reported that, right? Sorry I didn't edit this but the whole thing should be distributed so it doesn't disappear.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://writ.lp.findlaw.com/dean/20060705.html">writ.lp.findlaw.com/dean/20060705.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>Senators Kyl and Graham's Hamdan v. Rumsfeld Scam: The Deceptive Amicus Brief They Filed in the Guantanamo Detainee Case</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br>By JOHN W. DEAN<br>----<br>Wednesday, Jul. 05, 2006<br><br>Last week, the Supreme Court issued its historic decision in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld. There, it dealt a substantial blow to the Bush/Cheney Administration's plans for the treatment of detainees at Guantanamo and, potentially, elsewhere as well - ruling out, for instance, the option of using military commissions without due process to try detainees.<br><br>The decision itself has been widely discussed. Less widely discussed, however, has been its backstory.<br><br>The Bush/Cheney Administration has been doing everything possible to keep its treatment of purported terrorist detainees out of the federal courts, particularly the Supreme Court. <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>To assist the Administration, Republican Senators Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Jon Kyl of Arizona engaged in a blatant scam that was revealed during the briefing of Hamdan.<br><br>Senators Graham and Kyl not only misled their Senate colleagues, but also shamed their high offices by trying to deliberately mislead the U.S. Supreme Court. Their effort failed. I have not seen so blatant a ploy, or abuse of power, since Nixon's reign.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br>To understand their ruse, a bit of background information about both the Hamdan case and the Detainee Treatment Act is necessary.<br><br>The Chronology Of The Hamdan Case<br><br>Salim Ahmed Hamdan is undoubtedly a bad fellow. Indeed, he is claimed to have once served as Osama bin Laden's driver and bodyguard. Hamdan was captured by tribal forces and turned over to the U.S. Military in November 2001, during the hostilities in Afghanistan against the Taliban. In June 2002, Hamdan was sent to Guantanamo.<br><br>In July 2003, the President designated Hamdan for trial by military commission, and in December 2003, Hamdan was given military counsel. In February 2004, Hamdan's attorneys filed an action under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) asking that formal charges be made against Hamdan, and that he be given a speedy trial. The U.S. military, however, held that the UCMJ did not apply.<br><br>Next Hamdan's attorney filed a petition for habeas corpus in federal court, to test the legality of his detention. That petition made its way from the state of Washington, where it was filed, to Washington, DC.<br>Column continues below &#8595; Click here to find out more!<br> Ads by Google<br> Recipes & Eating Hints<br>Building strength thru diet during Lung Cancer treatment<br>www.Eating-Hints.org/Nutrition<br><br>On November 8, 2004, Judge James Robertson of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia (a Clinton appointee, who had been active in civil rights) ruled that both the UCMJ and Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions were applicable, so he stayed the proceedings of the military commission that had taken jurisdiction of Hamdan. The government appealed immediately to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. There, on July 15, 2005, a three-judge panel (which included the future Chief Justice John Roberts) ruled in the government's favor. But Hamdan's attorney filed a petition for review by the U.S. Supreme Court. And the Court took the case on November 7, 2004.<br><br>Subsequently, Congress passed the Detainee Treatment Act (DTA), and on December 30, 2005, President Bush signed it. Then, on February 13, 2006, the government filed an extraordinary motion before the Supreme Court, calling for the Court to dismiss Hamdan's case on the ground that the DTA had stripped the High Court of jurisdiction of any and all habeas corpus actions emanating from the detainees at Guantanamo.<br><br>In support of the government's motion, Senators Kyl and Graham filed an amicus brief. There, they brazenly attempted to hoodwink the Court regarding the actions of Congress in adopting the DTA. (It is not clear if their attorney, Jeffrey Lamken, a distinguished and highly able appellate practitioner, was privy to their scheme. But I would be at a loss to explain how he might have missed it.)<br><br>The Passage of the Detainee Treatment Act<br><br>Readers may recall that, after the Abu Ghraib scandal and related revelations became public, Senator John McCain sponsored provisions of law geared specifically to prevent the use of torture by the Bush/Cheney Administration, as well as those that follow. Those provisions, along with others, constitute the DTA. The other provisions were championed by Senators Graham and Kyl, who sought to nullify the Supreme Court's ruling in Rasul v. Bush. In that June 28, 2004 ruling, the High Court held that federal courts - contrary to the government's claim - do indeed have jurisdiction over Guantanamo's military prisons.<br><br>Following Rasul, virtually all the detainees at Guantanamo filed habeas corpus actions. On the morning of Thursday, November 10, 2005, the government filed a motion in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia to put on hold many of these pending actions - as many as 160, if not more - until all the procedural issues could be resolved by the cases already on appeal.<br><br>That same Thursday, in the afternoon, as the Senate was rushing to leave town for the Veterans Day holiday, Senator Graham proposed an amendment (to an Defense Department authorization bill) that would deny detainees at Guantanamo the right to file habeas actions in federal courts, and strip the federal courts, including the Supreme Court, of jurisdiction over all the cases then pending, including the Hamdan case.<br><br>The thrust of Senator Graham's argument was that he wanted to reverse the Supreme Court's ruling in Rasul. "Habeas corpus rights have been given to Guantanamo Bay detainees because the location is under control of the United States," Graham observed. He then incorrectly told his colleagues, time and again, that the United States had never before given aliens, enemy combatants, and prisoners of war the right to file a habeas corpus action. "Never in the history of the law of armed conflict has an enemy combatant, irregular component, or POW been given access to civilian court systems to question military authority and control, except here," Graham protested.<br><br>In fact, the U.S. Supreme Court had considered just such habeas petitions during and relating to World War II in Ex parte Quirin and In re Yamashita.<br><br>Graham's proposal caught the Senate by surprise. It is not the Senate's practice to address complex issues willy-nilly. (These are the kinds of ploys played in the House of Representatives, where Graham started his political career.) Accordingly, Republican Senator Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, told his colleagues that until his committee had held hearings on the matter, he was "not prepared, at this stage, to support legislation which calls for removal of habeas corpus." Senator Specter believed the matter "require[d] a lot more analysis." Similarly, Democratic Senator Jeffrey Bingaman of New Mexico, one of the more able attorneys in the Senate (a Stanford Law graduate and former Attorney General of New Mexico), objected. As the debate proceeded, Senator Bingaman did eventually call Graham on his misleading claim about federal courts and habeas actions.<br><br>Another of the Senate's better lawyers, Democratic Senator Carl Levin of Michigan -- who agreed that some restrictions should be placed on putative terrorists being given open access to federal courts -- noted, however, that Graham's proposed amendments would strip the federal courts of jurisdiction over habeas petitions that had already been filed. The relevant provision's Effective Date clause made clear, after all, that it would "apply to any application or other actions that is pending on or after the enactment of this Act." "[The Act] would eliminate the jurisdiction already accepted by the Supreme Court in Hamdan," Levin pointed out, and he objected to that consequence.<br><br>Nonetheless, that same pre-holiday Thursday afternoon, the Republican leadership forced a vote on Graham's Amendment, which had its blessing - and surely that of the Administration. It passed, and was made part of the Defense Authorizations Act for Fiscal Year 2006, by a vote of 49 to 42.<br><br>Amending the Graham and Kyl's Jurisdiction-Stripping Provisions<br><br>Over the long holiday weekend, Senator Levin and others advised Graham that they were going to seek to amend his provision. Graham, always congenial with his colleagues, agreed to work with Levin, and they fashioned revised language.<br><br>On November 14, the Senate debated the revised amendment. "Last week, when Senator Levin was arguing with me about my amendment, I think he made some very good points," Senator Graham explained during the debate. "By working with him, … and Senator Kyl, we have addressed some of the weaknesses in my original amendment," Graham said.<br><br>Senator Levin provided further explanation for the record: "The … problem which I focused on last Thursday with the first Graham amendment was that it would have stripped all the courts, including the Supreme Court, of jurisdiction over pending cases. What we have done in this [new] amendment, we have said that … the amendment will not strip the courts of jurisdiction over those cases. For instance, the Supreme Court jurisdiction in Hamdan is not affected."<br><br>The change had been accomplished by redrafting the Effective Date clause to eliminate habeas corpus actions. Senator Levin summarized the change this way: "The habeas prohibition in the [original] Graham amendment applied retroactively to all pending cases -- this would have the effect of stripping the Federal courts, including the Supreme Court, of jurisdiction over all pending cases, including the Hamdan case. The [new] Graham-Levin-Kyl amendment would not apply the habeas prohibition … to pending cases. So, although the amendment would change the substantive law applicable to pending cases, it would not strip the courts of jurisdiction to hear them. Under the Graham-Levin-Kyl amendment, the habeas prohibition would take effect on the date of enactment of the legislation. Thus, this prohibition would apply only to new habeas cases filed after the date of enactment."<br><br>The revised Graham-Levin-Kyl amendment passed 84 to 14.<br><br>Graham and Kyl's Ghosted Legislative History<br><br>Given the fact the Administration was fighting tooth and nail to defeat Senator McCain's prohibitions against torture, which were also part of this legislation, it did not exactly sail through the House of Representatives. While there was some effort in the House to change the language relating to habeas actions, that effort failed, and the provisions as agreed upon in the Senate remained.<br><br>When the conference report came back to the Senate on December 21, 2005, the Congressional Record reported a lengthy colloquy between Senators Graham and Kyl, briefly joined by Senator Brownback. (This extended dialogue runs some 12,000 words.) In this discussion of the meaning of the legislation, Graham and Kyl make several startling statements -- none more so than those that concerned the jurisdiction of federal courts over pending habeas petitions.<br><br>"So once this bill is signed into law, you anticipate that the Supreme Court will determine whether to maintain their grant of certiorari [in the Hamdan case]?" Graham asked Kyl. Kyl answered, "Yes, in my opinion, the court should dismiss Hamdan for want of jurisdiction. . . . I think that a majority of the court would do the right thing--to send Hamdan back to the military commission." (Emphasis added.)<br><br>In other words, after previously insisting - and to address Senator Levin's very specific concern on this score - that the revised language would in no way strip the Supreme Court's jurisdiction over Hamdan, Kyl was now maintaining exactly the opposite, with Graham's full cooperation.<br><br>Kyl continued, "As for legislative history" -- which he and Graham, his reference implied, were clearly making right then on the floor of the Senate -- "I think it usually is regarded as an element of the canons of [statutory] construction. It gives some indication of what Congress at least understood what it was doing--the context in which a law was enacted. Although, I understand that Justice Scalia does not read legislative history. I suppose that for his sake, we will have to strive to be exceptionally clear in the laws that we write." (Ironically, one reason Scalia disregards legislative history appears to be that he is well aware that Senators have been known to distort it.)<br><br>Those viewing C-Span's coverage of the Senate, and the Senators on the floor of the Senate, never heard this part, or any of the rest of, this lengthy colloquy between Graham and Kyl. That's because it never happened. No doubt aides of the Senators wrote this bogus and protracted dialogue, and either Graham or Kyl had it inserted in the record.<br><br>I first became aware of it when Emily Bazelon, a senior editor at Slate, wrote about it, after she confirmed the colloquy had never happened. As she noted, inserting comments into the Congressional Record is "standard practice." But what is "utterly nonstandard is implying to the Supreme Court" that Senate debate was live, when it most certainly was not. "When a senator wants to put a statement into the record," Bazelon noted, "he or she signs it, and writes 'live' on it, and, with the routine consent of the rest of the body, into the record it goes." This fact was not revealed by Graham and Kyl in their brief, however.<br><br>The Graham-Kyl Amicus Brief in Hamdan<br><br>In February 2006, Senators Graham and Kyl filed their amicus brief in the Hamdan case, supporting the Government's motion to dismiss the case for lack of jurisdiction under the Detainee Treatment Act (DTA). If they had been keeping faith with Senator Levin and the rest of their colleagues, they should have filed a brief on precisely the other side - making clear that the DTA, as amended, had had no intention to touch the Supreme Court's pending Hamdan case, and thus opposing the government's motion!<br><br>Instead, Graham and Kyl advised the Court they were sponsors of the Graham-Levin-Kyl amendment, and throughout their brief, cited their fictitious colloquy on December 21, 2005. Indeed, that colloquy is the core of their brief and its argument as to why the Court should dismiss the Hamdan case. Their hubris reaches the point of deception when they claim that the "legislative history confirms that Congress intended all pending claims to be governed by the DTA."<br><br>"In an extensive colloquy (which appears in the Congressional Record prior to the Senate's adoption of the Conference Report), Senators Graham and Kyl made it clear that the statute 'extinguish[es] one type of action - all of the actions now in the courts - and create[s] in their place a very limited judicial review of certain military administrative decisions." (This misleading statement is cited again later in the brief.)<br><br>Absent this bogus colloquy, in which the brief quotes Senator Graham as saying "I want our colleagues to know exactly what they will be agreeing to," there was actually no dispute throughout the deliberation of the Graham-Levin-Kyl language in the House or Senate as to the fact that the DTA would not retroactively remove the jurisdiction of the federal courts over pending cases. Indeed, it is unlikely any of Graham and Kyl's colleagues were aware of this dispute, which was manufactured after the fact.<br><br>Remarkably, the government's brief, too, relied on the same sham exchange when seeking dismissal of the Hamdan case.<br><br><!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>The Hoax Fails: The Supreme Court Is Not Fooled<br><br>Hamdan's lawyers, however, spotted the hoax. In their opposition to the motion to dismiss the case, they advised the Court that the supposedly conflicting legislative history was entirely invented after the fact, and that it consisted of "a single scripted colloquy that never actually took place, but was instead inserted into the record after the legislation had passed." The brief noted, quite accurately, that this Graham-Kyl colloquy was "simply an effort to achieve after passage of the Act precisely what [they] failed to achieve in the legislative process."<br><br>Ultimately, the Supreme Court did not decide the jurisdictional issue until it rendered its full ruling on June 29 of this year. There, Justice Stevens concluded correctly that the Congress had not stripped the Court of jurisdiction with the DTA.<br><br>Out of an apparent concern for interbranch comity, the High Court has chosen to ignore the bogus brief filed by Senators Graham and Kyl, rather than reprimanding the Senators. Nevertheless, when Graham and Kyl sought to file the very same brief, a month later, with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columba, Slate's Emily Bazelon reports that court "issued an unusual order rejecting" their amicus brief alone, although they accepted five others.<br><br>No one familiar with this remarkable behavior by Graham and Kyl can doubt why the court did not want to hear from these senators.</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>John W. Dean, a FindLaw columnist, is a former counsel to the president. </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p216.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=hughmanateewins>Hugh Manatee Wins</A> at: 7/30/06 11:32 am<br></i>
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Sen. Lindsey Graham tried to deceive the court last time

Postby rain » Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:18 pm

- That petition made its way from the state of Washington, where it was filed, to Washington, DC. -<br><br> - "Muslim American" attacks Jewish Federation -<br><br> - Nine "bizarre" murders in Seattle in nine days -<br><br> is it making any sense yet ?<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: friday news dump

Postby rain » Sun Jul 30, 2006 10:10 am

<br>Perkins Coie Pro Bono Team Wins Landmark Supreme Court Case<br><br>WASHINGTON, D.C. (June 30, 2006) – Perkins Coie attorneys were part of a defense team that received a favorable ruling in a landmark case that challenged the scope of presidential authority. In a historic decision, the Supreme Court ruled (5-3) that military tribunals established by the Executive Office to try enemy combatants and detainees held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba are not authorized by Congress and violate both domestic and international laws, including the laws of war and the Geneva Conventions. <br><br>The case, Hamdan v. Rumsfeld, challenged the military commission process on behalf of Salim Hamdan, who has been detained since November 2001. Mr. Hamdan was apprehended in Afghanistan and transported to an American prison in Guantanamo Bay. Working with the prisoner's assigned military defense counsel, Lt. Commander Charles Swift of the U.S. Navy, and Georgetown law professor Neal Katyal, the Perkins Coie pro bono team argued that the Bush Administration overstepped its authority when it set up military commissions to try terrorist suspects such as Hamdan, and that the process utilized by the Administration violated international law and did not conform to the basic rights afforded to those who are accused under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. In addition, the Court concluded that a statute enacted by Congress in late 2005 did not strip it of jurisdiction to hear the case. <br><br>Perkins Coie lawyers, paralegals and staff have spent thousands of pro bono hours on the case since it was first filed in April 2004. <br><br>“Perkins Coie undertook this case because the legal issues it presents are important and profound, and they go right to the very foundation of our constitutional system of justice and the rule of law,” explained Harry Schneider, a senior partner on the pro bono team. “The case raised critical questions about the scope of presidential authority, whether this president or any president can deny prisoners basic due process rights in the name of waging war, and it tested in the most important way our federal courts' very ability and jurisdiction to consider such disputes. The Court’s decision today is a landmark ruling that reaffirms the fundamental principles of our system of justice. We are honored to have been given the opportunity to work on this important case.” <br><br>Judge Robert Lasnik of the Western District of Washington, where the case was originally filed, remarked in open court that Perkins Coie’s pro bono participation was “the highest calling of the profession,” and an example of the “greatest tradition of the bar and the country.” <br><br> <!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.perkinscoie.com/page.cfm?id=887">www.perkinscoie.com/page.cfm?id=887</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>
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Re: friday news dump

Postby rain » Sun Jul 30, 2006 1:08 pm

<br><br>Bush Creates Common Ground Between Liberals and Conservatives <br><br>Brian Tamanaha <br><br>Lest anyone think that only liberals are appalled at the claims and actions of the Bush Administration, consider this passage from a recent New Yorker article (July 3, 2006) by Jane Mayer detailing the dark activities of David Addington, Cheney's Chief of Staff:<br><br><br>Bruce Fein, a Republican legal activist, who voted for Bush in both Presidential elections, and who served as associate deputy attorney general in the Reagan Justice Department, said that Addington and other Presidential legal advisors had "staked out powers that are a universe beyond any other Administration. This President has made claims that are really quite alarming. He said there are no restraints on his ability, as he sees it, to collect intelligence, to open mail, to commit torture, and to use electronic surveillance....It's got the sense of Louis XIV: "I am the State." Richard Epstein, a prominent libertarian law professor at the University of Chicago, said, "The President doesn't have the power of a king, or even that of state governors. He's subject to the laws of Congress! The Administration's lawyers are nuts on this issue." He warned of an impending "constitutional crisis," because "their talk of the inherent power of the Presidency seems to be saying the courts can't stop them, and neither can Congress." <br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://balkin.blogspot.com/">balkin.blogspot.com/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>and I'm thinking 'OMG ! it's Max and the Chief in the Cone of Silence'<br>what are they going to waffle on about now in the face of the Seattle shootings<br>as shrubby and the gang come round for another bite at the apple is it even going to occur to them 'well that's a curious coinkidink' ?<br> <br> <p></p><i></i>
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detention without trial

Postby blanc » Sun Jul 30, 2006 2:32 pm

if this were to become law, could 'enemies' be extradited from countries which had extradition treaties with the US in order to disappear in the black hole they've got ready there? <p></p><i></i>
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