Roman Polanski arrested in child sex case

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Postby Jeff » Mon Jul 12, 2010 8:56 am

Roman Polanski goes free
After holding the film director under house arrest for nine months, Swiss officials decide against extraditing him to the US

Kate Connolly guardian.co.uk, Monday 12 July 2010 13.48 BST


Roman Polanski, the film director who has been under house arrest in Switzerland for the past nine months, has been declared a free man after officials decided not to extradite him to the United States.

The Swiss justice ministry said it had decided against handing the fugitive director to the US, where he is wanted for sentencing for having sex with a 13-year-old girl 33 years ago.

"The Swiss justice ministry will not extradite Roman Polanski to the United States," Eveline Widner-Schlumpf, a ministry official said at a press conference in Bern. "The Franco-Polish film-maker will not be extradited to the United States, and the measures of restriction on his liberty have been lifted."

She said national interests had been considered before the decision was made, adding: "Polanski is now a free man." Polanski was arrested on a US warrant last year while in Zurich to collect a lifetime achievement award for his film work. He was kept under house arrest at his Swiss chalet in the mountain resort of Gstaad.

He will now be able to move beyond his garden for the first time. An electronic tag has been removed from his ankle.

The Swiss decision is likely to cause diplomatic tensions between Switzerland and the US.

Widner-Schlumpf added: "The reason for the decision lies in the fact that it was not possible to exclude with the necessary certainty a fault in the US extraditionary request."


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Re: Roman Polanski arrested in child sex case

Postby surfaceskimmer » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:04 pm

Interesting story... interesting thread.

How does it all relate to John Frankenheimer's dinner party on 6/5/68?
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Re: Roman Polanski arrested in child sex case

Postby Simulist » Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:57 pm

Whatever feelings I might have about the Roman Polanski matter, I can certainly understand another government not wishing to extradite someone to the United States.

The United States has a terrible reputation abroad in many places, and very deservedly so.
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Re: Roman Polanski arrested in child sex case

Postby barracuda » Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:10 am

This result makes me wonder all the more about the timing of his original arrest, and what purpose it served. Justice must have realised they would have to satisfy the Swiss rather completely in order to assume custody of Polanski through extradition. The fact that they have refused to come clean with the requested information tells me pretty much exactly what went on in the judge's chambers during the original hearings.

I have to say, I was kind of hoping for a big splashy Hollywood trial, and to be taking notes on the various hypocracies sure to arise from such a show. I'll miss, for now, the opportunity to see Polanski on the docket, but I assume there will be other opportunities for his arrest. Though maybe he'll make another great film before they nab him again. The suspense is killing me.
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Re: Roman Polanski arrested in child sex case

Postby barracuda » Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:12 am

NY Times via Dlisted:

Ms. Widmer-Schlumpf said the American authorities had rejected a request by her ministry for records of a hearing by the prosecutor in the case, Roger Gunson, in January 2010 which should have established whether the judge who tried the case in 1977 had assured Mr. Polanski that time he spent in a psychiatric unit would constitute the whole of the period of imprisonment he would serve.

“If this were the case, Roman Polanski would actually have already served his sentence and therefore both the proceedings on which the U.S. extradition request is founded and the request itself would have no foundation,” the Swiss Justice Ministry said in a statement.
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Postby Nordic » Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:53 am

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Re: Roman Polanski arrested in child sex case

Postby ilyinternet » Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:30 am

Congratulations, Polanski-Defenders - Now the Child-Rapist Walks Unpunished!

Posted by Johann Hari 13th July 2010

So now we know. If you are a 44-year-old man, you can drug and anally rape a terrified 13-year-old girl as she sobs, says "no, no, no," and pleads for her asthma medication, and face no punishment at all. You just have to meet two criteria: (a) You have to run away and stay away for a few decades, and (b) You need to direct some good films. If you manage this, not only will you walk free. There will be a huge campaign to protect you from the "witch-hunt" of the laws forbidding child-rape, and you will be lauded as a hero.

Polanski admitted his crime before he ran away, and for years afterwards, he boasted from exile that every man wants to do what he did. He chuckled to one interviewer in 1979: "If I had killed somebody, it wouldn't have had so much appeal to the press, you see? But... fucking, you see, and the young girls. Judges want to fuck young girls. Juries want to fuck young girls. Everyone wants to fuck young girls!"

But this is not enough, it seems, for the Swiss government to return him to the United States to face trial. They have found a legalistic loophole that enables them to let him go - while admitting "national interests" may be a factor in the release. This may be a reference to pressure from neighboring France to free their citizen. As a Swiss citizen, I think I can say without being offensive - we all remember the bargains Swiss governments have made in the past to preserve their "national interests." This is in a long tradition of helping criminals and calling it Swiss hard-headedness.

The campaign to release Polanski has leeched into the open a slew of attitudes that I thought were defeated a generation ago. Whoopi Goldberg said it wasn't "rape-rape." Others hinted darkly that she wasn't a virgin at the time of the rape. So if a 13 year old has been raped before, she's fair game for all future rapists?

The French philosopher Bernard-Henri Lévy, who led the campaign, said a little bit of child molestation isn't his problem when Great Art is at stake. He wrote: "Am I repulsed by what he got up to? His behavior is not my business. I'm concerned about his movies. I like The Pianist and Rosemary's Baby." That's worth saying again: this campaign was led by a man who thinks the drugging and raping of a child is "not my business," when compared to a film about Satan inseminating Mia Farrow.

The novelist Robert Harris, who is a friend of Polanski's, said: "It strikes me as disgusting treatment." He wasn't talking about the child-rape. He was talking about the attempt to punish the child-rape. He said Polanski was being subjected to a "lynch mob." Where is this lynch mob? All I can see are people patiently suggesting the law should be enforced, and he should be given a fair and open trial. This is the polar opposite of a lynching: it is sober justice.

Do these defenders of Polanski understand what they are saying? Do they mean it? Harris has four children. If a great film director drugs and rapes them tomorrow, will he call the police, or will he say it would be "disgusting" to do so? Would he say the police and prosecutors trying to protect his children were a "lynch mob" and shoo them away? If the rapist ran off, would he say that after three decades on the run (boasting about his crime) he should walk free? I doubt it. So why do Harris' words suggest he thinks Polanski's victim is worth less than his own children?

Now the campaign has succeeded. So congratulations to Whoopi and Bernard and Robert: an unrepentant, bragging child-rapist won't face his day in court, thanks in part to you. Have fun at the victory party. But -- just a word of advice -- you might want to leave your daughters at home.
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Re: Roman Polanski arrested in child sex case

Postby RocketMan » Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:42 pm

Johann Hari wrote:Polanski admitted his crime before he ran away, and for years afterwards, he boasted from exile that every man wants to do what he did. He chuckled to one interviewer in 1979: "If I had killed somebody, it wouldn't have had so much appeal to the press, you see? But... fucking, you see, and the young girls. Judges want to fuck young girls. Juries want to fuck young girls. Everyone wants to fuck young girls!"


This is pretty damning... And what has always bothered me about the reporting concerning this case is that it's always an "alleged" child rape. How is it "alleged" when the accused has admitted to the crime in court...?
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Postby norton ash » Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:44 pm

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Re: Roman Polanski arrested in child sex case

Postby Maddy » Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:09 pm

ilyinternet wrote:
Congratulations, Polanski-Defenders - Now the Child-Rapist Walks Unpunished!

Posted by Johann Hari 13th July 2010

So now we know. If you are a 44-year-old man, you can drug and anally rape a terrified 13-year-old girl as she sobs, says "no, no, no," and pleads for her asthma medication, and face no punishment at all. You just have to meet two criteria: (a) You have to run away and stay away for a few decades, and (b) You need to direct some good films. If you manage this, not only will you walk free. There will be a huge campaign to protect you from the "witch-hunt" of the laws forbidding child-rape, and you will be lauded as a hero.


1) Excellent article.

2) One does not need those two qualifiications to get away with it, or, in some instances, to be lauded as a hero.
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Re: Roman Polanski arrested in child sex case

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:50 am

Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Roman Polanski arrested in child sex case

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:57 pm

Roman Polanski Announces His First Movie in #MeToo Era, Called J’Accuse

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