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Re: We Are All Russian Assets

Postby overcoming hope » Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:06 am

Facebook: Russian trolls are back. And they're here to meddle with 2020

New York (CNN Business)People linked to the Internet Research Agency, the Kremlin-backed troll group indicted by the United States for its alleged interference in the 2016 US presidential election, are laying the groundwork to do the same in 2020, new information released by Facebook on Monday suggests.

Profiles originating in Russia had since the beginning of this year been building a network of accounts on Instagram designed to look like groups in swing states, the company said. Instagram is owned by Facebook (FB).

Although the accounts posed as Americans from all sides of the political spectrum, many were united in their opposition to the candidacy of former Vice President Joe Biden, according to Graphika, a social media investigations company that Facebook asked to analyze the accounts. The Russian trolls who used social media to interfere in the 2016 election employed a similar tactic, going after Hillary Clinton from the right and also trying to spread a perception on the left that Clinton was not liberal enough and that liberals and African Americans especially shouldn't bother voting for her.

The accounts Facebook revealed Monday, 50 of which were on Instagram and one of which was on Facebook, were designed to look like they were advocating on a broad range of issues across American life.

Accounts with usernames like @black.queen.chloe and @michigan_black_community_ looked like they were run by black activists. There were also pro and anti-Trump accounts, and accounts posing as feminists, LGBTQ rights advocates, and environmentalists. Other account names included @stop.trump2020, @bernie.2020__, @iowa.patriot, and @feminist_agenda_, according to Graphika.

Facebook said the accounts combined had more than 250,000 followers, more than half of which were based in the U.S. Facebook did not disclose how many of those followers were real and how many might have been fake or bot accounts designed to make the main accounts look more legitimate. Facebook says it has removed the accounts.

"It looked like there was a systematic focus on attacking Biden from both sides,"

"keep a lookout for Zurg agents. They could be anywhere and anyone." Buzz Lightyear
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Re: We Are All Russian Assets

Postby Belligerent Savant » Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:06 am

stickdog99 » Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:41 am wrote:
overcoming hope » 24 Oct 2019 05:04 wrote:Tulsi Gabbard invokes Trump's 'fake news' rhetoric to push back on report of Russia-linked support

Democrats and other opponents of Trump have denounced his use of the term, arguing that by calling legitimate news fake, the President is chipping away at the credibility of the American press.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/20/politics ... index.html


LOL. And Sanders is why Clinton lost, and tax breaks to billionaires lift all boats.


Blatant Orwellian wordspeak sprinkled across that article. "Legitimate" news. "Credibility of the American press".

The press delegitimized their 'reporting' all on their own by becoming a blind repeater/propaganda arm of the State.


[Joe: noted, tracking your point now. Seems we're largely aligned, though disagreement is welcome as well, of course - all part of online discourse that a few of us still appreciate.]


Overcoming hope: what's the source for the above vile shitpost of an article? [On edit: i see it's from 'CNN Business'. Of course]. That author should be publicly flogged.

We've yet to reach Peak Stupidity, folks. 2020 is shaping up to surpass the absurdity of '19, difficult as it may be to fathom.
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Re: We Are All Russian Assets

Postby overcoming hope » Thu Oct 24, 2019 9:37 am

Former CIA special ops officer Evan McMullin says Tulsi Gabbard shows she’s with the Russians every time she opens her mouth

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https://www.reddit.com/r/RussiaLago/com ... llin_says/

from the comments on Reddit

[...]

I mean she’s repeating their talking points so..

[...]

Regime-change war.

Regime-change war.

Regime-change war.

Regime-change war.

Regime-change war.

Regime-change war.

Regime-change war....

[...]

I'm glad tulsi is finally getting the attention she deserves for being an obvious traitor. Just listen to her speak, good lord.

It's something that's been bothering me for a while, and given how many people have been acting like she's a likely VP pick for bernie, he really needs to distance himself. I've been saying he should distance himself for some time, the fact he hasn't bothers me.

[...]

Fucking finally this makes it into the news surrounding Tusli. Ever since Alexsandr Dugan endorsed her on fucking Facebook earlier this year I’ve been telling people she’s a Russian agent. Every time people bring up her name I highlight this fact. Look at her defense. Its literally what Republicans and Russians do: attack the person, not the claim.

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She literally cried "fake news" when someone suggested she might be associated with Russia her earlier this year.
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Re: We Are All Russian Assets

Postby overcoming hope » Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:23 am

edit to add: I think this article is so ridiculous that it is beyond satire. I would expect careful readers would also find it absolutely insane.

Some 2020 Democratic candidates are defending Tulsi Gabbard against Hillary Clinton’s accusations. Several intelligence experts aren’t.

All three candidates referenced Gabbard’s service in the military as one reason not to paint her as a tool of a foreign power, which is something Gabbard also referenced in her response to Clinton. The idea seems to be that no one who would put their lives on the line for the United States would betray this country to the point of working with a foreign government to harm the United States.

“This is a message to every veteran in this country who has put their life on the line to serve our country, to every single American who believes strongly that we must end this long-standing foreign policy of being the world’s police and ending these regime-change wars, which is really the legacy of Hillary Clinton, then we are traitors to the nation that we love,” Gabbard told CBS News.

But none of the candidates responded to the underlying claim, which so many others find troubling: the possibility of Gabbard launching a third-party candidacy that would get a boost from Russia, including via a disinformation campaign that would cause harm to Democrats’ chances in the 2020 presidential election. Gabbard denied to CBS that she was considering a third-party run.

Clinton was explicitly stating what some on the left, as well as in the foreign policy world, have been suggesting for quite some time — before going further than most. Some have argued that Gabbard doesn’t have to be proactively working with Russia for that government to be using her campaign to interfere in the 2020 election.

Last month, Naveed Jamali, a former secret double agent who worked for the FBI to spy on Russia, noted that Russia could attempt to amplify support for the lawmaker by using the troll factories that were so effective in 2016.

“Russia may choose to covertly amplify her message by building what may look like organic and grass-roots online support for her,” he wrote for Newsweek. “They may take some of her talking points — such as, Assad ‘is not the enemy of the U.S.’ or that the U.S. is in ‘a new nuclear arms race’ — and work to increase their reach across social media.”

But he said concerns that Gabbard could be aware of Russia’s preference for her are inflamed by the fact that she “has steadfastly refused to renounce any Russian support she may be receiving.”

“If borne out, Russian support of Gabbard does not mean that she is a Russian-directed operative, or that she has ties with or is in contact with Moscow,” Jamali added. “The same holds true if Russia seeks to independently aid the Gabbard campaign.”

Clint Watts, a fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute, an international relations think tank, wrote in May that one of Russia’s main goals for 2020 will be to “divide the opposition,” and it appears that they have begun to do that with Gabbard, often using members of the right.

“Moving forward, the Kremlin’s strategy will be to identify, highlight and empower the unwitting and the like-minded on the political left,” he wrote for the Daily Beast, providing examples of how this would work.

Tulsi Gabbard fell into this crossfire with her meeting with and support of Syria’s Bashar al-Assad. It situated her as a bridge between anti-Israel activists of the political left and white supremacists like former KKK leader and GOP Louisiana state representative David Duke, who tweeted, “Tulsi Gabbard is currently the only Presidential candidate who doesn’t want to send White children off to die for Israel.” Alt-right leader Richard Spencer and the nationalist Mike Cernovich also fanned support for Gabbard in January 2019. And we shouldn’t forget Steve Bannon sought Gabbard out for a meeting with President-elect Trump in November 2016. Online and on-the-ground convergence between the populist right and the populist left is happening in plain sight—all the Kremlin has to do is help it grow. Both Watts and Jamali tweeted about Russia and Gabbard after Clinton’s comments suggesting that the country was helping the lawmaker. Gabbard didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment.

In February, NBC conducted an analysis of the main English-language news sites Russia employed while interfering in the 2016 election and discovered that Gabbard was the favorite candidate of those sites — even before Gabbard officially launched her campaign.

All three sites celebrated Gabbard’s announcement, defended her positions on Russia and her 2017 meeting with Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad, and attacked those who have suggested she is a pawn for Moscow. The coverage devoted to Gabbard, both in news and commentary, exceeds that afforded to any of the declared or rumored Democratic candidates despite Gabbard’s lack of voter recognition.

NBC News analyst Alex Stamos, former chief security officer at Facebook, said the lawmaker helps Russia with all their “lines of attack.”

“Her promulgation of positions compatible with Russian geostrategic interests can help them mainstream such discussion in the [Democratic] Party,” he said.

Concerns about Russian interference in the 2020 election remain significant for many Americans. Confidence in the integrity of the election process has been threatened since the 2016 election, particularly since President Trump has not aggressively confronted Russia for what American intelligence agencies say the country’s government did.

Defenders of Gabbard, including those on the right and the populist left who regularly oppose the Democratic establishment, may attempt to color Clinton’s critiques of the lawmaker as bitterness coupled with the former secretary of state’s desire to bolster a more centrist candidate’s campaign. But experts in the field of Russian interference view manipulations of Gabbard’s campaign as potentially harmful to the 2020 election in ways that are similar to the previous election. And for those who are concerned about the integrity of the U.S. election process, that is a much bigger issue than Gabbard’s personal feelings.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... rts-arent/

The English language sites promoting Gabbard mentioned in the above article:

Since Gabbard announced her intention to run on Jan. 11, there have been at least 20 Gabbard stories on three major Moscow-based English-language websites affiliated with or supportive of the Russian government: RT, the Russian-owned TV outlet; Sputnik News, a radio outlet; and Russia Insider, a blog that experts say closely follows the Kremlin line. The CIA has called RT and Sputnik part of "Russia's state-run propaganda machine."
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Clinton is a Trump Asset

Postby JackRiddler » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:24 am

Fixed:

Some have argued that Clinton doesn’t have to be proactively working with Trump for his reelection campaign to be using her McCarthyite defamations as a boost in the 2020 election.
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Re: We Are All Russian Assets

Postby liminalOyster » Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:27 pm

Defenders of Gabbard, including those on the right and the populist left who regularly oppose the Democratic establishment, may attempt to color Clinton’s critiques of the lawmaker as bitterness coupled with the former secretary of state’s desire to bolster a more centrist candidate’s campaign.


I mean, hey, I'm going to take this as a simple statement of permission and offer thanks to WAPO for formal authorization. Off to sharpen my crayons.
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Re: Clinton is a Trump Asset

Postby overcoming hope » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:59 pm

JackRiddler » Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:24 am wrote:Fixed:

Some have argued that Clinton doesn’t have to be proactively working with Trump for his reelection campaign to be using her McCarthyite defamations as a boost in the 2020 election.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-is ... 1571784745

Hillary Is a Russian Asset
Democrats trying to revive ‘collusion’ must want Trump back in the White House.

In a difficult period for our country, everyone is let down by commentary that relies on stale talking points. Channeling Hillary Clinton’s latest podcast eruption, some pundits have lately returned to trying to keep Trump-Russia collusion alive, so let’s go through it again.

[...]

The Russian could be anyone

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Re: We Are All Russian Assets

Postby overcoming hope » Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:19 pm

Is WikiLeaks Russia’s ‘useful idiot,’ its ‘agent of influence,’ or something else?

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-mete ... influence/

About a dozen years ago, an enigmatic, silver-haired hacker from Australia launched a web portal that grew to become, in his words, "a giant library of the world's most persecuted documents."

WikiLeaks, under the guidance of founder Julian Assange, has since published more than 10 million documents on war, spying and corruption.

The group earned notoriety in U.S. national security circles in 2010 for leaking footage of an American airstrike that killed Iraqi journalists. It would later dump more than 250,000 classified U.S. diplomatic cables, and hundreds of secret files on the Guantanamo Bay military prison.

But after WikiLeaks amplified Russia’s 2016 election interference, it fueled suspicions that the group — which holds itself out as an equal opportunity, no-holds-barred anti-secrecy outfit — had acted as the Kremlin’s co-conspirator.

The precise nature of WikiLeaks’ relationship to Moscow is not publicly known. A PolitiFact analysis found a documented pattern in which both parties’ interests appeared to align. Elements of the relationship might be clarified in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, though a full accounting of their possible coordination may never be known.
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Re: We Are All Russian Assets

Postby overcoming hope » Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:44 pm



Covers topic fairly of why this Russian Asset stuff is silly. The conversation pivots at about 7 minute mark and they explain what they find troubling about the candidate, don't know enough to weigh-in on any of that content.
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Re: We Are All Russian Assets

Postby overcoming hope » Sat Oct 26, 2019 12:25 am

check the date

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-e ... rd-n964261

Russia's propaganda machine discovers 2020 Democratic candidate Tulsi Gabbard

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Experts who track websites and social media linked to Russia have seen stirrings of a possible campaign of support for Hawaii Democrat Tulsi Gabbard.

Feb. 2, 2019, 7:03 AM EST
By Robert Windrem and Ben Popken

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Several experts who track websites and social media linked to the Kremlin have also seen what they believe may be the first stirrings of an upcoming Russian campaign of support for Gabbard.

[..]

Josh Russell, a researcher and "troll hunter" known for identifying fake accounts, similarly told NBC News he recently spotted a few clusters of suspicious accounts that retweeted the same exact text about Gabbard, mostly neutral or slightly positive headlines.

Who is this expert?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/13/politics ... index.html

Meet the Indiana dad who hunts Russian trolls
Bloomington, Indiana (CNN)

[..]

Russell's interest in troll hunting started in the waning weeks of the 2016 presidential campaign, when he started investigating some of the most slanderous lies circulating online about Hillary Clinton. He'd been leaning toward voting for Donald Trump, but realized he could not find any evidence supporting some of the most outlandish allegations against Clinton circulating on Twitter.

he cracked the case! He finally figured out not to vote for Trump! :thumbsup
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Re: We Are All Russian Assets

Postby American Dream » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:30 am

Which 2020 Democratic candidates made the most headlines recently, and how much does it vary depending on where one gets one’s news? To analyze this, we downloaded tweets from the last 10 days linking a sample of 38 media sites and extracted the headlines.

...After doing some cleanup of the resulting data (such as removing duplicate headlines that were flagged as distinct due to slight differences in formatting), we counted the number of unique headlines mentioning 2020 Democratic candidates on each site.

...The results: first, the coverage is not evenly distributed. Four candidates (Warren, Sanders Biden, and Gabbard) have received the majority of recent coverage and are the only candidates to be the most frequently featured in headlines by at least one media site.



Same data, but shown as percentages of each news site’s headlines mentioning each candidate. High percentages - particularly for Gabbard and to a lesser extent for Biden- correlate strongly with state-sponsored (RT, Sputnik) or extremist/fringe (Daily Stormer, ZeroHedge) sources.

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More: https://twitter.com/conspirator0/status ... 2569277441
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Re: We Are All Russian Assets

Postby JackRiddler » Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:58 am

This "sampling" methodology would get "conspirator0" thrown the fuck out of school. Who's platforming Daily Stormer now, eh?
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Re: We Are All Russian Assets

Postby JackRiddler » Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:20 am

Typical post on this subject by Mr. Jeff Wells, as seen on Facebook(tm).


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Re: We Are All Russian Assets

Postby Jerky » Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:18 am

JackRiddler » 27 Oct 2019 13:58 wrote:This "sampling" methodology would get "conspirator0" thrown the fuck out of school. Who's platforming Daily Stormer now, eh?


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Re: We Are All Russian Assets

Postby JackRiddler » Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:13 pm

The fake outrage of the board's top two info disseminators is noted.

Tulsi Gabbard is never going to be president.

She is the current central target of the McCarthyite campaign run by the notorious death cult actually in power, that of American empire.

This is what matters about her right this moment, and it sets up a binary situation: are you going to accept "Russian asset" accusations leveled against anyone who deviants from the imperialist line, or whom Clinton wishes to defame? Or are you going to object when the New McCarthyism is deployed against anyone, because it will soon enough be deployed against all?

She is not under attack because as a child she is was the member of a cult -- compared to whom, Clinton and The Family? The Trump-Bush Christianist base? -- or any of the other surplus smears heaped on her. All but one of these smears are fabricated or equally applicable to other Democratic presidential candidates. Their selective use demonstrates that it's a specific attack campaign. None of these smears are the real reason she is being attacked. Her actual ideological problems (unity nationalism rhetoric, for example) are not why she is being attacked.

She is being attacked because she calls the Syrian regime change war a regime change war, and the Queen of Warmongers the Queen of Warmongers.

That is all I need to know - just as it is all I need to know that these two bullshit cakes are "discovering" problems with her, just now, in real time.

Servants to disinfo, whatever they believe they are doing.

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