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et in Arcadia ego wrote:<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>I wonder how many RI posters have similar stories, and what their thoughts are about whether, indeed, this stuff works?<hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>I have a small handfull of personal stories, one of which was annonymously quoted in one of Jeff's blog posts re: the Necronomicon. Before bantering about the book's authenticity and purpose itself begins, the experience I had was outside the realm of intent on my part while reading it. Matter of fact, I didn't actually engage any of the rituals themselves and had no intention of doing so, but experienced intense negative reinforcements for even reading it until I destroyed the copy. I was in a world of hurt lasting several days, constantly hearing things like scratching/clawing accompanied by footsteps running on my roof/outside my window all night <!--EZCODE BOLD START--><strong>and</strong><!--EZCODE BOLD END--> day)I was advised to burn the book, and whether this was a printer's trick or what, the pages burned white one after another, as if there was never any text printed on the pages at all.<br><br>I should point out I was only mainly reading the book looking for references to Lovecrat's Chtulhu Mythos, as at the time(1985), everyone believed the book was only an..off-hand companion/supplement to Lovecraft's work. When I encountered all the Sumerian/Babylonian ritual, I wasn't sure what to think, and had difficulty maintaining interest, but finished it on principle. Immediately afterwards, the 'hauntings' began, and they weren't nice.<br><br>Running out of your house screaming in broad daylight isn't much fun.<br><br>I flirted with 'Magick' several times in my early years in both sloppy and organized formats in hopes of understanding *, and the above is by no means the worst experience I ever had, but is the only relevant one I'm willing to discuss here in an open forum. I'd like to talk about my *Worst/Scariest Fucking Experience in Life Ever with you guys one day, but it's something I'm still struggling to understand myself more than 20 years later, so I'm still not ready yet.<br><br>That experience, however, was sufficient to directly sustain the xenophobia(I do not limit this to Alien/UFO's, I'm actually not even refering to ET's here) I've displayed on many talks at RI.<br><br>Closest thing I've ever come to understanding it was(with Jeff's feedback, but not conclusion) the possibility I triggered a latent Egregore, but I really have no idea.. <p>____________________<br>Some are born to sweet delight, some are born to endless night.</p><i></i>
Enki wrote:
For what it's worth, some of the stuff from the Simon Necronomicon is actually based on real Sumerian texts, but mostly it appears to be hacked and patched together in a patchwork way so as to relate some arbitrary other material to the Lovecraft mythos obliquely. Assuming that egregores are in fact persistent between people and related by something more specific than the archetypes they echo, it's quite possible that the patchwork nature generated a kind of patchwork egregore that draws power from both the popularity of the Lovecraft mythos and the long history on Sumerian and Babylonian workings that the Simon Necronomicon perverted in its mixture.
As you can probably discern from my nick, though, I am a bit of an intellectual elitist in terms of Sumerian mythology, and so my obvious dislike of the Simon Necronomicon is probably more of a visceral gut reaction due to emotional attachment to the original body of mythology, ^d Enki in particular.
castanblaidd wrote:Ritual magick does indeed work, as it is the focusing of consciousness into creative energy. Most magick is ritualistic in nature, but to a certain extent all things have levels of magick / chi that are able to be summoned, directed and communed with.
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