Strong team you're assembling there, Jack. With moral, political and intellectual allies like the aptly-named Jerky, who needs cancer? No wonder the American left is in such terrific shape.
JackRiddler » Thu Mar 22, 2018 12:48 pm wrote:
Yes, I know that C. Newman offered a strawman for JP fans in some interview. The material you posted has nothing to do with that, however. It doesn't matter how many dumb things CN does elsewhere, none of them are relevant to arguing for JP, it's about some other dumb thing she once did, who the fuck cares in the present discussion. The use of drone images and bombing-supporters who might not like JP also has nothing to argue for or against JP. (Do we have a JP statement on "war on terror" and those protesting it, by the way? I don't know, but I bet it might disappoint you.)
Meanwhile, in the last few pages you've had nothing to say about JP's actual words and thoughts, which repeatedly state that young people should shut the fuck up about capitalism and other junk they protest and that men are naturally the leaders of women. He also threatened to create an app that alerts students against "postmodernist" professors, whom he would like to see fired or defunded, thus advocating something worse than the censorship he pretends his ilk are tyrannized by. Your "defense" of him is to trot out irrelevant facts about other people we don't like.
Yes, I know that C. Newman offered a strawman for JP fans in some interview. The material you posted has nothing to do with that, however. It doesn't matter how many dumb things CN does elsewhere, none of them are relevant to arguing for JP, it's about some other dumb thing she once did, who the fuck cares in the present discussion.
I care. And it does matter what "dumb" (sic) things she does elsewhere. She is a prominent, well-paid mercenary hack (a household name in the UK) who lied about having been manhandled out of a mosque when no such a thing ever happened. She told this shabby self-serving dangerous
lie in the full knowledge that it was a lie, and right in the middle of the UK's latest Terror Scare, while Muslim women were having their headscarfs torn off in the street, and while the UK was supporting NATO and the US in the ongoing campaign to destroy every independent state in the so-called Middle East. It is not irrelevant that Cathy Newman is still in a job, and that they wheeled her out as The Voice of Liberal Reason to contend with an alleged Peril to the West such as J. Peterson. She got her arse handed to her on a plate, of course, just as Paxman did when trying to perform the same task with Brand. Because neither of those men are fools or cowards.
Enough about her. But kindly stop pretending, at long last, that she has fuck-all to do with why Peterson's popularity increased massively -- not just in the UK, but worldwide -- after that excuse for an interview went viral on YouTube and elsewhere. As soon as you stop pretending about her, I'll shut up about her, and very happily too.
The use of drone images and bombing-supporters who might not like JP also has nothing to argue for or against JP.
Why are you pretending, again, to be far stupider than you are? What you call "drone images"
were two photos, neither of them photos of drones, from the so-called Vietnam "War" -- an invasion and occupation of that distant peasant land, in which the US, following France, slaughtered around 2,000,000 Vietnamese men, women and children while suffering a total loss of around 50,000 professional and conscripted soldiers on their own side. To anyone reading and responding in good faith, it must have been perfectly obvious why I posted those photos
, which were not photos of drones
: I posted them, and wrote what I wrote (which you completely & wilfully ignored) because Jordan Peterson has fuck-all to say about any of it, although he pretends to have noticed and diagnosed all the great evils of the 20th century. Anyone listening to him might think that nothing truly bad
had happened in or been done by
The West™ before Kristallnacht (1933) or after Mao's death (1976), to say nothing of the four decades in between.
There are many things I could call that travesty of recent history, but I choose here, using Peterson's own terms, to call it adolescent
. It is a disgrace to any educated adult, never mind one tasked with educating the young.
(Do we have a JP statement on "war on terror" and those protesting it, by the way? I don't know, but I bet it might disappoint you.)
Why on earth should you think that I'd be disappointed? Seriously. I know of no such statement from Peterson, but I am more than happy to make a confident prediction about what he will say about the "war on terror", if he's ever asked to: He will mutter some adolescent
crap about "Conspiracy Theories", he will lament the deadly immaturity
of the Nineteen Deathloving Superstudents, he will smirk sadly and wisely and oldly, and then he will deflect the discussion on to the sins, real or alleged, of Stalin, Hugo Chavez, and Jeremy Corbyn. In this -- this mélange of wilful ignorance, smug superciliousness, conformism, careerism, and profound moral cowardice -- he will differ not one iota from close to 100% of those Americans who identify as
[cue drumroll] Leftists. If you don`t believe me, try asking David Corn, the corpse of Alexander Cockburn, or the fresh young new wave of arseholes at VICE or Chapo Trap House. Try asking any one of the self-identifying Leftists (of any nationality) who either ruthlessly shat on you or prudently ignored you while you were struggling for years to have 9/11, the Universal Casus Belli, exposed as the shabby lie that it is.
- I'm pushed for time here. Enough.edit:typos