MacCruiskeen » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:49 am wrote:
1. Insist on the immediate requisition of hotels (all now empty anyway) as emergency hospitals.
Cruise ships arriving in San Francisco dock at the cruise port terminal between the Fisherman’s Wharf and the Bay Bridge at Pier 35 and Pier 27. All cruise ships are linked to their complete current itinerary. In order to view the next port of call just click on a specific vessel.
http://crew-center.com/san-francisco-ca ... edule-2019
MacCruiskeen » Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:40 am wrote:Et tu.
The dishonesty and cowardice and panicked rage and sheer irrationality on display here is just breathtaking. Berlin 1933 was nothing compared to SmartF@scism 2020. The American Spook Dream is now going truly global.
I insulted no one, Jack. No one. You know this, as does Elvis, as does anyone who can read and refuses to succumb to terror It is me who been called a dick, a cunt, a wanker, a shit, a heartkess bastard, and god knows what else, and I never once responded in kind. You know this.
You know this.
They all did it with impunity, and not one of you mods ever said a single word against it. Not Elvis, not you.
Be proud, Jack. You've chosen. You're boss now. So enjoy the adulation of the addled fearporn addicts. You're on the winning team. Enjoy.
Fascism is here.
Consider the effect of shutting down offices, schools, transportation systems, restaurants, hotels, stores, theaters, concert halls, sporting events and other venues indefinitely and leaving all of their workers unemployed and on the public dole. The likely result would be not just a depression but a complete economic breakdown, with countless permanently lost jobs, long before a vaccine is ready or natural immunity takes hold.
[T]he best alternative will probably entail letting those at low risk for serious disease continue to work, keep business and manufacturing operating, and “run” society, while at the same time advising higher-risk individuals to protect themselves through physical distancing and ramping up our health-care capacity as aggressively as possible. With this battle plan, we could gradually build up immunity without destroying the financial structure on which our lives are based.
Iamwhomiam » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:48 am wrote:Tell me Elvis, How can what I wrote be possibly interpreted as me attacking Mac? Yes, to lose someone you care about is painful. And he files a complaint against me and you come running, as if I had committed some rule violation. For me saying he should be Proud of himself for understanding loss?
British scientist Neil Ferguson ignited the world’s drastic response to the novel Wuhan coronavirus when he published the bombshell report predicting 2.2 million Americans and more than half a million Brits would be killed. After both the U.S. and U.K. governments effectively shut down their citizens and economies, Ferguson is walking back his doomsday scenarios.
Ferguson’s report from Imperial College, which White House and other officials took seriously, said that if the U.S. and U.K. did not shut down for 18 months, and isolation measures were not taken, “we would expect a peak in mortality (daily deaths) to occur after approximately 3 months.” His “models” showed overflowing hospitals and ICU beds.
“For an uncontrolled epidemic, we predict critical care bed capacity would be exceeded as early as the second week in April, with an eventual peak in ICU or critical care bed demand that is over 30 times greater than the maximum supply in both countries,” the report reads.
Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House coronavirus response coordinator, reportedly said the administration was particularly focused on the Imperial College report’s conclusion that entire households should stay in isolation for 14 days if any member suffered from COVID-19 symptoms.
But after tens of thousands of restaurants, bars, and businesses closed, Ferguson is now retracting his modeling, saying he feels “reasonably confident” our health care system can cope when the predicted peak of the epidemic arrives in a few weeks. Testifying before the U.K.’s parliamentary select committee on science and technology on Wednesday, Ferguson said he now predicts U.K. deaths from the disease will not exceed 20,000, and could be much lower.
2/ He now says both that the U.K. should have enough ICU beds and that the coronavirus will probably kill under 20,000 people in the U.K. – more than 1/2 of whom would have died by the end of the year in any case bc they were so old and sick.
— Alex Berenson (@AlexBerenson) March 26, 2020
Big thread. The man who panicked the world is now running from his doomsday projections. Shut up and quarantine crowd MIA. No need to apologize to those of us who told you not to blindly trust 1 projection. Scrutinize a little more next time before you surrender your freedoms. https://t.co/EopJL2BhNB
— Jordan Schachtel (@JordanSchachtel) March 26, 2020
3.3 M jobless claims in US as scientist walks back hysterical model warning between 2-4 M dead. https://t.co/e9KpeK0lLP
— Lee Smith (@LeeSmithDC) March 26, 2020
Ferguson, who has since tested positive for the Wuhan virus himself, has not issued any official retraction or apologies for his incorrect predictions. The New Scientist reports Ferguson did acknowledge it was impractical to keep the country in an isolated lockdown for 12 to 18 months, especially because of the impact on the economy. “We’ll be paying for this year for decades to come,” he said.
The Imperial College report was also the basis for the modeling used by the website COVID Act Now, which local and state officials in the U.S. then used to issue “shelter-in-place” mandates. COVID Act Now, which was founded by a handful of Democratic activists in Silicon Valley, is an online mapping tool that generates models predicting coronavirus hospitalizations, which have also already proved to be wildly inaccurate.
“Apocalyptic” Crowds, Hour-Long Lines and Hazard Pay: Philly Grocery Store Employees Tell All
They’re among the heroes of the COVID-19 crisis. And they’ve got some things to get off their chest.
By Claire Sasko· 3/26/2020, 4:27 p.m.
https://www.phillymag.com/news/2020/03/ ... ronavirus/
Sounder » Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:02 am wrote:The Federalist is a right-wing, racist shitrag.
And that they may be, but article did say; 'But after tens of thousands of restaurants, bars, and businesses closed, Ferguson is now retracting his modeling, saying he feels “reasonably confident” our health care system can cope when the predicted peak of the epidemic arrives in a few weeks. Testifying before the U.K.’s parliamentary select committee on science and technology on Wednesday, Ferguson said he now predicts U.K. deaths from the disease will not exceed 20,000, and could be much lower.'
While before he suggested that half a million might die, quite a difference to be casual about.
That modeling shit is dicey for using to drive major policy decisions.
MacCruiskeen » Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:54 am wrote:hi mentalgongfu, I hope you and your loved ones are well. Please just ask yourself and them the obvious questions.
Maybe you live in a rural area and/or have made a point of stockpiling tinned foods for months ahead. I haven't/we haven't here.
I'm trying to make things as clear as I can, to myself and others. I'm not crowing at anyone or making light of their worries. On the contrary. And I'm not concealing any big secret. I have no privileged knowledge.
I do not live on some weird remote tiny hebridean island where the half-a-dozen supermarket workers have all evolved some kind of new superpower, some special genetic immunity to OMFG-COMORBID-911, the Deadly Oriental Killer Virus that's making supermarket workers cough their guts out, curl up and die everywhere else [Shurely shome mishtake?? - Ed].
I live in a big european capital city, berlin (pop. 3.8 million), currently under near-total lockdown. (Only gas stations, pharmacies & supermarkets are still open for business.) I know of no supermarket workers who have succumbed to this. None.
I shop daily for fresh fruit and veggies. I have made a point of asking the checkout workers, briefly and politely, over the last week, in at least three supermarkets, if they and their colleagues are doing OK. They're doing fine, just a bit stressed-out by all the panic-buyers with their stacked shopping-trolleys. Those workers are not dropping like flies. Yet each & every one of them faces *thousands* of strangers daily. What can we learn from this?
Is it any different anywhere else? I am asking.
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