Dark clouds in Bush's future?

[sunny]

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.theconservativevoice.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6057">www.theconservativevoice....oryid=6057</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br> Kerry To Push For Bush Impeachment<br>Posted by News Reporter on 2005/6/3 10:29:52 <br>By Sher Zieve<br><br>John Kerry announced Thursday that he intends to present Congress with The Downing Street Memo, reported by the London Times 1 May 2005. As reported by NewsMax, the memo purports to include minutes from a July 2002 meeting with Tony Blair, in which Blair ostensibly said that President Bush’s Administration “fixed” intelligence on Iraq in order to justify the Iraqi war. In an interview with the Standard Times, Kerry said: "It's amazing to me the way it escaped major media discussion. It's not being missed on the Internet, I can tell you that." <br><br>The Boston Globe published an article by Ralph Nader, Tuesday, in which Nader also called for President Bush’s impeachment. The story is being carried on Michael Moore’s website and the Democratic Underground. Failed presidential candidate Kerry advised that he will begin the presentation of his case for President Bush’s impeachment to Congress, on Monday.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/05/31/the_i_word/">www.boston.com/news/globe...he_i_word/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br>RALPH NADER AND KEVIN ZEESE<br>The 'I' word<br>By Ralph Nader and Kevin Zeese | May 31, 2005<br><br>THE IMPEACHMENT of President Bush and Vice President Cheney, under Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution, should be part of mainstream political discourse.<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Conyers_reaches_extends_signature_goal;_creates_t_06_03_2005_0503pm.html">rawstory.com/news/2005/Co...503pm.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br>Conyers reaches, extends signature goal; creates tip line<br>RAW STORY<br><br><br>The office of Representative John Conyers (D-MI) believes it has surpassed its stated goal of 100,000 signatures requesting an investigation into the Downing Street Memo, minutes of a British Prime Minister's meeting on July 23, 2002. <br><br>"Right now, we are going through signatures to verify the number," said Danielle Brown, Conyers' spokesperson. Brown currently puts the number of signers at an, "estimated 110,000 and growing." With Conyers' web site receiving about 5,000 unique visitors every 4 to 5 hours, the Congressman has made his revised goal 250,000 signatures.<br><br>Conyers also hopes to attract prospective whistleblowers through a new tips line on the Democrats' House Judiciary web page. "There remain many unanswered questions regarding President Bush's lead up to the Iraq war that suggest a serious abuse of power," Conyers stated in a press release. "I am hopeful there are people who have leads and information that will bring us closer to the truth.<br><br><br><!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :rollin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/roll.gif ALT=":rollin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>Related links:<br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/">www.afterdowningstreet.org/</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.democrats.com/peoplesemailnetwork/39">www.democrats.com/peoplesemailnetwork/39</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br><br>The most serious matter for the Congress and the President is the decision to go to war. It is the sole constitutional responsibility of Congress to decide whether to declare war. The President has a constitutional responsibility to be straightforward and candid with the Congress in providing it with the information it needs to evaluate the case for war. If that decision is skewed or corrupted by false or misleading information, it raises the most serious Constitutional questions and substantial issues about abuse of power.<br>...<br>If, as the Downing Street Minutes appear to clearly indicate, the falsehoods that led us into war were deliberate manipulations of the public and Congress, we deserve to know and we deserve answers. More importantly, we need to hold this President accountable for a very grave abuse of power.<br><br><br> <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=sunny@rigorousintuition>sunny</A> at: 6/5/05 3:27 pm<br></i>

[Starman]

Why am I suspicious of Kerry's motives in what seems like a PR stunt?<br><br>Could it be, Kerry's amazingly lacklustre, integrity-compromised performance as a serious Presidential candidate, who continuously avoided calling the GOP party leadership on serious misfeasance, duplicity, and abuse of power issues re: character assassinations, election fraud, conflicts-of-interest, 911 mismanagement and misrepresentation and obstruction of justice, and the evident falsification/fabrication of information in the run-up to war (ie, the White House's use of Mossad-and-Chalabi-fed Office of Special Plans to cherry-pick info independant of peer-vetted review, and obvious pressure to compel the CIA to produce 'evidence');<br><br>I, along with many other folks, believe Kerry was set-up to be the losing-candidate all-along, to produce the PR image of a functioning democracy. Is he performing the duty of deflecting public attention via a limited-hangout challenge? The whole rotten Bush Cartel should be held to account for malfeasance and War Crimes in their conduct of both Afghan and Iraq wars, and their sanction of extra-legal Renditions and authorizing of indefinite detentions and use of torture in contravention of International Laws and treaties -- as well as their role in covering-up misfeasance and lying about pre-attack 911 info. I guess I'm pretty cynical about chances that the neocons are vulnerable to legal challenges in that Gov. corruption and the subversion of all 3 brnaches under the Bush 'leadership' has likely never been greater. <br><br>I'll stay hopeful, but won't hold my breath. I expect if the public 'heat' gets too hot for ordinary media manipulation and disinfo, there will be another horrible terrorist tragedy to deflect ackward public attention. 'Government' by crisis deception. <br><br>Short of a total revolution, I don't think substantial progressive reform of the corrupted system (ie., corporatocracy with intimate Military/Defense Industry links to Shadow Government institutions) it will take a sweeping Truth and Reconciliation movewment, as occurred in Chile to restore democracy, rule-by-law, and human-civil rights following the fall of the far-less (than Bush Inc.) autocratic/repressive/criminal Pinochet government.<br>Starman <p></p><i></i>

[sunny]

I totally agree with your assessment of Kerry, and have done since early in the presidential campaign when he refused to fight misinformation about <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>himself</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->, much less the lies that were told about Bush's record. However, I do believe that momentum is building, propelled by the anger and disgust of people like ourselves, to throw these bastards out, and I don't think scurvy cowards like Kerry will be able to stop it. <p></p><i></i>

[seemslikeadream]

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[Qutb]

that Kerry has not said a word about impeachment. It's the Conservative magazine that falsly indicates that he has in their headline, for dramatic effect. He has simply said that he is going to "bring it up" tomorrow. <p></p><i></i>

[seemslikeadream]

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[sunny]

Thanks for that, Slad. I hadn't thought there would be one near me here in the deep, deep south (near Mobile, Al.) but there are 2, in Biloxi and Pensacola! Hey, I might start one myself!<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>Y'all will forgive my eternal optimism, I hope. I have to believe! I don't fantasize about sex anymore, just continuous images of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rice doing a perp walk, on trial for mass murder, corruption, treason, and moral turpitude<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

[bindare]

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>just continuous images of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rice doing a perp walk, on trial for mass murder, corruption, treason, and moral turpitude</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br>in this day and age that is what it takes to give a man a boner and make a woman .... .<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :smokin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :eek --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/eek.gif ALT=":eek"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

[wolf pauli]

That the Memo should be presented to Congress by Kerry of all people does set off the crap detector. Now that's perfect: let's go with the guy most likely to be accused of sour grapes! Could there be a better way to kill the Memo story? "Sore Loser Blasts Bush!" The corporate media could spin it in their sleep. <br><br>I certainly hope Sunny is right that momentum is building to oust these chumps, but Kerry -- whether by intention, sheer dementia, or foolish pride -- could easily do more harm than good. <p></p><i></i>

[human]

skull<br><br>&<br><br>bones<br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[sunny]

it's coming. Everybody around here is a Republican, and they just don't defend him like they used to. It's reaching the point that it won't matter what the media says, re Monica-gate, wherein no matter how hard the msm hit that story the public refused to take it seriously. Hopefully, this is how it will go down- Kerry makes his speech, it creates a firestorm of criticism, of him of course, meanwhile the public gets a glimpse of the infamous minutes and their deepest darkest suspicions are confirmed- Bush did lie and our soldiers died-voila, the little Emperor has no clothes. Well, like I said, the eternal optimist.<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :b --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":b"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br><br>By the way bindare, thanks for the kind words- glad I could help! <p></p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p097.ezboard.com/brigorousintuition.showUserPublicProfile?gid=sunny@rigorousintuition>sunny</A> at: 6/5/05 9:57 pm<br></i>

[sunny]

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/john-conyers/mens-rea-and-wmd_2145.html">www.huffingtonpost.com/th..._2145.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>Essentially, the question boils down to what lawyers call "mens rea". Before a defendant can be convicted of a crime the judge or jury must find not only that the defendant committed the wrongful act but also did so with a state of mind indicating culpability. In the case of a fraud, the jury must find that there was intent to deceive. In the case of Iraq, the weight of evidence continues to accumulate indicating that the American people and Congress may well have been the victims of a deliberate deception.....<br><br><br>in the past two weeks alone (leaving out the reports of the last three years), we have a pretty clear pattern. This Administration had a cover story, namely that a clear and present danger to the United States was posed by Iraq's WMD, for something they knew they wanted to do: go to war with Iraq. Those who brought forward the weight of evidence disputing these claims were first ignored and later punished. Those who assisted in the cover story were rewarded. <br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[plsmith]

<!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Just thought I'd point out that many presidents have lied to lead us into war and only two have ever been impeached ( -and NOT for falsely leading us into battle)... </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><br><br><!--EZCODE IMAGE START--><img src="http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y201/wappened/lbj_bosch.jpg"/><!--EZCODE IMAGE END--><br><br>In the Dominican Republic on April 25, 1965, the pro-American government of Donald Cabral was overthrown by a pro-Juan Bosch military faction, and three days later LBJ got on national television and told America that the<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> United States Government has been informed by military authorities in the Dominican Republic that American lives are in danger. These authorities are no longer able to guarantee their safety and they have reported that the assistance of military personnel is now needed for that purpose.<br><br>I have ordered the Secretary of Defense to put the necessary American troops ashore in order to give protection to hundreds of Americans who are still in the Dominican Republic and to escort them safely back to this country. <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br>LBJ stated that the American military contingent would consist of 400 marines.<br><br>By the following week, it looked like the forces supporting Juan Bosch would indeed restore him to power, so LBJ got on television again. This time he announced that he was sending 14,500 troops to the Dominican Republic and it had nothing to do with "protecting American lives". Raising the specter of Communism, LBJ's latest reason for sending a vastly increased U.S. military presence ran thusly<br><br><!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr> The American nations cannot, must not, and will not permit the establishment of another Communist government in the Western Hemisphere... <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br><br><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>Juan Bosch wasn't a Communist; he just wanted his country to profit from the plunder of its own resources, and we didn't like that. </em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END--><br><br><br>Not intimating, btw, that Bush is a great guy or even an average president. But he won't be impeached for lying about WOMD in Iraq. Perhaps he'll get to resign in disgrace, like Nixon. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p></p><i></i>

[sussurus2]

This makes a twised & limited amount of sense to me. I'll try to explain why, but how I'm perceiving this story is hitting me at a nonverbal level.<br><br>Look, the one over-arching thing I read in the last several months, keeps haunting me. The statement was something like--we'll have a few more years of reactionary republican/conservative government, which will be replaced by a "liberal" alternative which will send us running with open arms towards the NWO, which will look far more human & sensible than the current administration. That will of course be a lie, but it will be a convenient lie to get broad support for that next phase. To get there, though, we may have to live through devaluation of the dollar, more intensive plagues, more war, etc. This is just step one in the grand theater of "why Kerry kept his mouth shut after the so-called-elections" Act two wasn't warmed up yet.<br><br>OK, hyper-paranoid. But trusting the gut instinct on this one. <p></p><i></i>

[human]

<!--EZCODE AUTOLINK START--><a href="http://www.webcom.com/pinknoiz/covert/contracoke.html">www.webcom.com/pinknoiz/c...acoke.html</a><!--EZCODE AUTOLINK END--><br><br>look, if it happens, its a set up.<br><br>is coincidental that Kerry led the investigations into CIA cocaine dealing? that Kerry led the investigation into BCCI?<br><br>that Kerry threw the last election?<br><br>none of it is coincidental.<br><br>its problem reaction solution in the most blatent insulting form possible.<br><br>the men have sworn an alleigence to one another.<br><br>they both went through the same brotherhood of death initiation rituals, both Knights of Eulogia, who bowed before the Satanic trinity of Lucifer, Satan & the Anti Christ...<br><br>the reason the Bushes have never got into trouble all these years is because of shills like Kerry. the man's whole career has been centered around cleaning up the Bush family mess...... and things changed now all of a sudden?<br><br>the way to impeach Bush is to expose the coup detat, the group that has taken over the government..... and that group INCLUDES John Kerry....<br><br>so if he comes out exposing Skull & Bones, then maybe we will be talking...<br><br>otherwise... they have a plan.<br><br>one<br>human? <p></p><i></i>