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H_C_E · Post by **H_C_E** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:34 pm

Jeff,

What in the name of Dog is that picture of that you posted?

HCE

Canadian_watcher · Post by **Canadian_watcher** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:36 pm

I agree. I really really hope that it comes out that the killer knew the victim. It won't though.
This scares me cold.

8bitagent · Post by **8bitagent** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:38 pm

Jeff wrote:
8bitagent wrote:This isn't just some guy snapping after too much Rush Limbaugh and going on a "liberal" killing spree...this seems like something straight out of an esoteric horror film.

Since you mention it, it did remind me of this. (IMO the best scene from In the Mouth of Madness. Though maybe not all that esoteric.)

But the most frightening thought to me is that he wasn't controlled, and that the victim wasn't targeted.

Man, another movie mentioned on this forum I need to rent...along with Reflecting Skin, Frailty, ect.

Well yeah, that's the scary thing...this incident seems straight out of one of those films, where people start committing random crazed acts automatically with no recollection. Like "The Happening".

I never got the impression that the kid next to him was killed because he was First Nation. He seemed to be killed because he was *there*.

Another recent shocking act, where that guy threw his toddler onto a highway and turned him into mush almost seemed to have more explanation...though it's hard to imagine what the spark for these acts are.

Post by **Jeff** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:42 pm

H_C_E wrote:Jeff,

What in the name of Dog is that picture of that you posted?

HCE

Horses frozen while crossing a river (though, not really), from Guy Maddin's My Winnipeg, which he describes as a "docu-fantasia".

thegovernmentflu · Post by **thegovernmentflu** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:57 pm

I would bet almost anything that this guy was on government psychotropic drugs. If an illegal drug had a track record like SSRIs and "antipsychotics", they would be considered part of a major destructive drug epidemic.

I can hear the mainstream media now... "But if he was taking those drugs he must have had underlying mental problems that caused the murder blah blah blah". If someone has a psychotic break on a psychEDELIC drug, does anyone give the drug the benefit of the doubt? No. The drug is vilified, and the person is a victim. But when it comes to psychiatric "medication", people make excuses that they wouldn't make for other drugs.

Truth4Youth · Post by **Truth4Youth** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:59 pm

8bitagent wrote:Man, another movie mentioned on this forum I need to rent...along with Reflecting Skin, Frailty, ect.

You mean the British movie with Viggo Mortensen? I thought that never saw an official release in the states?

Brighid_Moon · Post by **Brighid_Moon** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:00 pm

thegovernmentflu wrote:If an illegal drug had a track record like SSRIs and "antipsychotics", they would be considered part of a major destructive drug epidemic.

^^ That.

sfnate · Post by **sfnate** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:52 pm

Jeff wrote:I think he was also described as likely aboriginal, and if it was a hate crime I'm afraid that would be the most likely cause.

Hate is an emotion. It tends to express itself through crude displays of heated rage. When violence occurs without emotion, with no affect, we're moving away from the human and into the territory of the machine, which always operates under the direction of an external agency. The control of a mechanism can be accomplished in ways too numerous to describe here; suffice to say that if the witness accounts are not so distorted by fear and horror that what they describe is accurate, it's highly likely that the man who committed this gruesome crime was several degrees abstracted from his own actions, most likely through medication or some other equally powerful method of behavior control. Or he was schizoid.

justdrew · Post by **justdrew** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:55 pm

so there's still ZERO info on who the killer and victim are? still no names?

Post by **Jeff** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:01 pm

justdrew wrote:so there's still ZERO info on who the killer and victim are? still no names?

There's been very little said officially. For a long time they would only confirm that a "major incident" had occurred.

The man who witnesses allege repeatedly stabbed and then beheaded a male on a Greyhound bus last night is 40 years old and from out of province, RCMP said today.

RCMP would not release the man’s name or any information about the victim, including his name, age or hometown. Police believe the victim was travelling solo.

The suspect has not yet been charged. He was arrested following a three-hour standoff and is in police custody.

RCMP would not comment on the suspect’s mental health.

http://winnipegsun.com/News/Manitoba/20 ... 20741.html

brekin · Post by **brekin** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:47 pm

I don't think anyone who has ever ridden a Greyhound would find this suprising. I think incidents in the pass that have gotten media attention are when some lunatic decided to attack the driver for no apparent reason.

Chances are every unstable person you've ever encountered most likely has taken Greyhound and very few have ever been inside of a major airline carrier.When the going gets strange, the strange take Greyhound.

Amtrak has a busline that some of the more strange Greyhound regulars seem to not have caught on to yet.

sfnate · Post by **sfnate** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:01 pm

brekin wrote:Amtrak has a busline that some of the more strange Greyhound regulars seem to not have caught on to yet.

They'll find out now. Which is not to suggest that the strange frequent these discussions, but...

:wink:

Procyon · Post by **Procyon** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:48 pm

The comment up-thread about SSRI's and antipsychotic medications being possibly causative is one I feel I have to challenge.

While it is true that studies have shown that SSRI's can result in raised incidence of impulsive acts, such as self-harm or harm to others, these acts are multifactorial in cause. Antipsychotic drugs are certainly no panacea, they come with pretty horrible side-effects and they numb feeling and can cause depression. And I have no doubt they are over-prescribed, as are SSRI's, for conditions and for people who do not need them, but rather need non-medical solutions to their problems. However it is a gross slur on those individuals who do need these medications to feel even some semblance of normality in their lives, to paint them with such distorted views.

In this case, we do not yet know what motivated this offender. Perhaps he was acutely psychotic and NOT taking medication that he should have been taking. Perhaps not. Why not wait and find out?

foistlastus · Post by **foistlastus** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:52 pm

first they came for our guns, now they come for knives

unaltered · Post by **unaltered** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:53 pm

foistlastus wrote:first they came for our guns, now they come for knives

Then they came for our knife carrying robotic killers.

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