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Searcher08 wrote:

666 wrote:Directly or, indirectly, the Trilaterals, CFRs and Bilderbergs are Rockefeller "foundations" and the Rockefellers are nothing more than sock-puppets for the Zionist Rothschilds.

I dont think one can look on eg David Rockefeller as being a sock puppet for anyone...

You are looking for a central controlling 'Wizard of Oz' and are coming at it from a very western european perspective. My understanding is that the way Rothschilds work is much more like an organisational Sandhurst or West Point, producing people who think in a similar way and DO NOT have to be controlled. It seems a much more P2P than Mainframe if you get my analogy...

I think a good case can be made that the Sheep are the Elite, not the common people. Listen carefully to the last video with the great Aaron Russo, when he is talking about his friendship with Nick Rockefellar - Nick sounds like a fun, very bright and likeable guy. However, the key is that decisons are taken based on informal consensus, not demand. Once the decision is taken though, everyone tends to fall in line AFAIK

How does Nick work with the new Chinese elite? By helping set up schools in China that are similar to the English Public School (Hogwarts without wizards)...
People from that narrow milleau tend to think in a very similar way, which is informed by a) having no need to ever work and b) an aristocratic drive to make a contribution and c) co-opetition with their peers.

Danny Casolaro identified the heart of the Octopus as the Bank of International Settlements. I would say that THAT is the place where transnational global money flows are sculpted.

Initially the Zionist house of the Red Shield was in competition over the Suez Canal with the Rockefeller's Standard Oil, but then Rothschild bent Rockefeller over a kerosene barrel and while Rockefeller was prone, the Zionist Godfather made Rockefeller an offer they couldn't refuse, to join the Royal Dutch/Shell Group cartel.

The Rockefellers are indeed Rothschild marionettes, in the same fashion as the Morgans and Blair.

I'm not looking for the wizard behind the curtain, I know who and/or what it is, it's good 'ol fashion greed and the lust for power and control, which is nothing more than a by-product of ignorance, the belief in a illusionary sense of individuality, an inherently existing self.

But humans are pack animals and there's always competition for the position of the alpha male and there's only so many chairs at the table, so if one looks hard enough past the compartmentalized smoke and mirrors and plausible dependability, one can eventually find who's actually running the show.

It's not as enigmatic and conspiratorial as we are mocked and pressured into believing.

wintler2 wrote:

Canadian_watcher wrote:Okay, you're not angry nor do you have your back up. I'll suppose insulting me willy nilly is your typical calm, reasonable self then.

Quotes?

Canadian_watcher wrote:This is really about the fact that I didn't jump all over 82 in that other thread. Go ahead and deny it but it's plain obvious to me. Consider this my last post to you until you can be reasonable.

WTF? Feel free to ignore me, but i wont be ignoring anyone defending AJ while claiming special knowledge i couldn't possibly understand.

There's always something to explain for why you have to act like such a sniveling knave of some form of obsessive modesty. WTF doesn't cut it. Just drop the 'tood bro/sis. That's all it takes. You get perhaps WTF X 100 from me for why you are so anti-social and sour. I gladly read you and what you have to say even though I do not like your online persona one bit. But I didn't PM you telling you that you're on ignore now. You did. And that's just dorky and supremely, embarrassingly overwrought. You're not that cool, but definitely always have something to add, which I appreciate. I also appreciate that you have helped me to approach RI much differently now. I now know that we are not all friends -- which for years I assumed was the case. It's made me stronger for it in how I approach how I write here and what I take seriously. I'm not changing, but my attitude has. It's a bit of a relief actually.

Carry on. . .

justdrew wrote:Maybe the mantis ones are on our side

the mantids are not on our side.

Stephen Morgan wrote: Two scenes from Them: Adventures with Extremists, by Jon Ronson, come to mind: Icke, splattered by a thrown custard pie thrown by "anti-racists" calmly brushing it off, and Alex Jones rushing from his house to accuse a man in the street of being a NWO agent sabotaging his phone line to stop him broadcasting the truth on his internet radio show.

crikkett wrote:

Stephen Morgan wrote: Two scenes from Them: Adventures with Extremists, by Jon Ronson, come to mind: Icke, splattered by a thrown custard pie thrown by "anti-racists" calmly brushing it off, and Alex Jones rushing from his house to accuse a man in the street of being a NWO agent sabotaging his phone line to stop him broadcasting the truth on his internet radio show.

If I'm thinking about the same scenario, they completely missed Icke from 5' away and accomplished nothing but destroying information and knowledge by covering a display of children's books in custard and whip-cream, completely ruining the books.

The next scene show's the ass-hats sitting around smugly congratulating themselves on the successful completion of their mission and showing nothing but complete disregard for their sub-moronic destruction of the books.

Yup, they sure showed him...real good guys.

So guys, wonder what AJ's take on this will be? "NY becomes 6th state to legalize gay marriage"
http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/06/24/ ... ?hpt=hp_t1

"Folks...now now now, ok let me calm down...ok, let's get down to brass tax, ok? what you have to understand is, these globalists are brainwashing you into thinking this stuffs normal! It's not, meanwhile in the aggregate we have the complete breakdown of the nuclear family...and...and folks...*chokes up* it's just so sickening, I don't even know what to do anymore. (8 seconds of silence, followed by AJ shuffling around his trademark stack of papers) But thats ok, let the globalists fool you into going along with this reverse engineering dialectic *goes into low snarled sarcastic voice* Seee....that's what they want...oooooh....yeahhhh...they love men with men, ooh they love it, muahahaha. Ok, Mike from Rhode Island, you're on the air"
(not an actual quote, just sounds like something he'd say)

I'm still not convinced Icke is secretly in league with neo Nazis or espouses Jew hating sentiments. Though I will say...I saw some of those attrociously cobbled together "Enigma TV" scare-a-thon "documentaries" by Icke pal Chris Everet that heavily features David Icke. In "Illuminati 2", while it has some interesting Jack Parsons stuff...it has a number of "evil Reptillian Rabbi" stuff. Seriously.
Plus all the "illuminati facts" are made out of thin air. Fact checking is not something a lot of conspiratainers concern themselves with

666 wrote:I'm not looking for the wizard behind the curtain, I know who and/or what it is, it's good 'ol fashion greed and the lust for power and control, which is nothing more than a by-product of ignorance, the belief in a illusionary sense of individuality, an inherently existing self.

But humans are pack animals and there's always competition for the position of the alpha male and there's only so many chairs at the table, so if one looks hard enough past the compartmentalized smoke and mirrors and plausible dependability, one can eventually find who's actually running the show.

Mixing your models?

666 wrote:

Searcher08 wrote:

666 wrote:Directly or, indirectly, the Trilaterals, CFRs and Bilderbergs are Rockefeller "foundations" and the Rockefellers are nothing more than sock-puppets for the Zionist Rothschilds.

I dont think one can look on eg David Rockefeller as being a sock puppet for anyone...

It seems a much more P2P than Mainframe if you get my analogy...

It's not as enigmatic and conspiratorial as we are mocked and pressured into believing.

It's not a Conspiracy, it's an Ideology. The conspiracy doesn't come first, it is not monolithic, but it can come second. The Ideology is the Mainframe.

Rockefeller is his own sock puppet: "This is a battle between the rational and the irrational. The rational favors globalization."

Searcher08 wrote: I used to think the elite was a pyramid shaped thing, but now think an ecosystem is a MUCH more accurate underlying metaphor.

Agreed. The ideology just happens to be shaped like a pyramid.

Speaking of Ideology:

Beware the Clockwork Elves!!

Peregrine wrote:

wintler2 wrote:

Canadian_watcher wrote:Okay, you're not angry nor do you have your back up. I'll suppose insulting me willy nilly is your typical calm, reasonable self then.

Quotes?

Well you did insinuate that what she was saying was absurd with that "Those who would believe absurdities would commit atrocities" quote.

I don't know nearly enough about CW to say her beliefs are absurd .. and i didn't.

But Jones/Icke-type conspiritard fantasies about jewz and elves, are, imho, definately if dangerously absurd, and they definately also encourage the 'commit atrocities' too (shooting of US Senator Gifford; abortion clinic attacks; global warming denial..).

I get no pleasure if CW is cross or hurt, but to be brutally honest, i don't care that much either way, because that is more CWs trip than mine. what i do care about is the constant false advertising for Jones & Icke here on RI. They are not visionaries with a minor flaw or two, they are evil fuckers developing their WOO patter, and that is much more important than whether i am a bastard (i am).

wintler2 wrote: I don't know nearly enough about CW to say her beliefs are absurd .. and i didn't.

My apologies I thought the quote was directed specifically at her.

But Jones/Icke-type conspiritard fantasies about jewz and elves, are, imho, definately if dangerously absurd, and they definately also encourage the 'commit atrocities' too (shooting of US Senator Gifford; abortion clinic attacks; global warming denial..).[

Yes, I see where you were applying the quote.

what i do care about is the constant false advertising for Jones & Icke here on RI. They are not visionaries with a minor flaw or two, they are evil fuckers developing their WOO patter, and that is much more important than whether i am a bastard (i am).

I honestly don't think she was advertising for Jones & Icke. I don't know enough about Icke, beyond the reptilian theory (wasn't aware before this thread that he kept company with holocaust deniers), but find Jones really hard to stomach mostly because of his right wing bible thumping leanings, and he's nutty. Cool beans if you wanna be a bastid, but it was pretty antagonistic to insinuate her support of evil. That's not fair.

crikkett wrote:I would only like to point out that AJ said DMT elves ordered the Large Hadron Collider to be built.

Well, the atom bomb was conceived in a U.S. government lab by a team of scientists and mathematicians who would hold regular meetings on the project where you were not welcome unless you were tripping on acid.

So you really never fucking know with these things.

psynapz wrote:

crikkett wrote:I would only like to point out that AJ said DMT elves ordered the Large Hadron Collider to be built.

Well, the atom bomb was conceived in a U.S. government lab by a team of scientists and mathematicians who would hold regular meetings on the project where you were not welcome unless you were tripping on acid.

So you really never fucking know with these things.

I've never heard of that before, do you he a source on that? I'm not having a lot of luck on it with google atm...

uh oh, looks like www.american-buddha.com is off line.
maybe it's in the book, "ACID DREAMS, THE COMPLETE SOCIAL HISTORY OF LSD: THE CIA, THE SIXTIES, AND BEYOND" ?

crikkett wrote:

justdrew wrote:Maybe the mantis ones are on our side

the mantids are not on our side.

what leads you to say that? The reports I've seen make me think of encounters with truly alien consciousnesses (with a knowledge/capability advantage), which can be difficult and/or unpleasant, but they don't seem to be harm inducing.

well, most of them anyway

tazmic wrote:

666 wrote:I'm not looking for the wizard behind the curtain, I know who and/or what it is, it's good 'ol fashion greed and the lust for power and control, which is nothing more than a by-product of ignorance, the belief in a illusionary sense of individuality, an inherently existing self.

But humans are pack animals and there's always competition for the position of the alpha male and there's only so many chairs at the table, so if one looks hard enough past the compartmentalized smoke and mirrors and plausible dependability, one can eventually find who's actually running the show.

Mixing your models?

Mixing?
No, it's more cyclical.

psynapz wrote:

crikkett wrote:I would only like to point out that AJ said DMT elves ordered the Large Hadron Collider to be built.

Well, the atom bomb was conceived in a U.S. government lab by a team of scientists and mathematicians who would hold regular meetings on the project where you were not welcome unless you were tripping on acid.

So you really never fucking know with these things.

According to the Manhattan Project historical website which holds all things relating to the project, the concept came to Oppenheimer and was conceived at Bohemian Grove...of all places.
They had the Trinity Test at the 33 degree parallel as he recited "I am become death, become of worlds". So I mean, there's already some odd stuff with Oppenheimer and his boys