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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:18 am
by liminalOyster
Natasha Lennard in Being Numerous. wrote:The new atheists, such as evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins, or social critics Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris—the worst of all ghostbusters—demand the universe, however physically massive, be as small and legible as possible. They would do well to consult some better empiricists. Willard Van Orman Quine, a twentieth-century American logician and philosopher, had little time for ghosts, but even less time for the sort of bad thinking that organizes the world into stable, immovable categories that could never allow for ghosts. Quine thought our theories of the world should be considered webs of belief, with centers and peripheries. At the center of the web are propositions we might call analytically true, or a priori—for instance, 2 + 2 = 4; or all bachelors are unmarried. On the periphery are beliefs that can be changed based on some recalcitrant experiences; for example, if one believes there are no red-haired French people, but then meets a few red-haired French people, the original belief is easily revised. Quine rejected that these are actually two different types of truth, epistemologically (i.e., really). Given the right, albeit dramatic, alterations to a belief web, 2 + 2 = 4 could be false, and not just by swapping around the meaning of words.



Re: Quote Only Thread

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:21 pm
by chump
"It's incorrect to call Cambridge Analytica a purely sort of data science company, or an algorithm company. It is a full service propaganda company. Steve Bannon was the editor of Breitbart. He follows this idea of the Breitbart Doctrine; which is that if you want to fundamentally change society, you first have to break it, and then it's only when you break it [that] you can remold the pieces into your vision of a new society."

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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:36 pm
by liminalOyster
Stephen Cohen wrote: "You and I have to ask a subversive question: are there really three branches of government, or is there a fourth branch of government—these intel services?"

Re: Quote Only Thread

Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:13 pm
by liminalOyster
Joe Biden wrote:"I've condemned [violence] across the board," / "If we were in high school, I'd take [Trump] behind the gym and beat the hell out of him,'"

Re: Quote Only Thread

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 6:58 pm
by Cordelia
My paintings know more than I do.

Gerhard Richter
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Re: Quote Only Thread

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2020 8:50 pm
by Grizzly
I needed that Cordelia! Thank you.

Re: Quote Only Thread

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 11:27 am
by Cordelia
You're welcome Griz! :hug1:

I needed that too. (Danke schön Herr Richter.) :praybow

Re: Quote Only Thread

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 2:42 am
by Elvis
"It seems to be what we have now is a political system which has essentially become, for the last thirty or forty years, a war on the human imagination."
— David Graeber, at the Royal Society for the Arts, 2015

Re: Quote Only Thread

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 12:53 pm
by dada
What is it to the imagination whether the war has been waged against it for the last thirty or forty years, the last three or four hundred, or three or four thousand. Or thirty or forty minutes, thirty or forty seconds. In the imagination, time works differently.

The war on the imagination is finally decided on the battlefield of the imagination, where it must become imaginary. Logic dictates this.

The imagination cannot be defeated on its own ground. A source of endless frustration for any army that rebels against it.

Re: Quote Only Thread

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 4:53 pm
by dada
To take it one step further, we could say that it's the human imagination who started the war. The imagination creates a world for the express purpose of being invaded. A trap world, made of bug zappers and super-sticky glue-paper.

These are very old ideas.

Re: Quote Only Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 2:35 am
by Elvis
Graeber completes his above thought:

"...to convince us there are no new ideas."

Re: Quote Only Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:33 am
by dada
Who can be convinced that there are no new ideas? Only those who don't have any.

Maybe the opposite of a new idea isn't an old one, but a used idea, bought second-hand. A very old idea can cost as much as a brand new one.

Re: Quote Only Thread

Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:08 pm
by Grizzly
@dada

Did you write that? it's awesome. :thumbsup

Bravo everyone! Thought food, yum!

Re: Quote Only Thread

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 12:13 am
by dada
I wrote it. My words know more than I do, though. They tell me what to write, I pretty much just take dictation at this point.

Re: Quote Only Thread

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:55 am
by Cordelia
Life asked death, 'Why do people love me but hate you? '

Death responded, 'Because you are a beautiful lie and I am a painful truth.


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