They really contained the seeds of their own destruction, and thank God they went. Their style was a gift to their opposition.
Seems a fairly vanilla phrase to me, even when context has been stripped out
I'm not going to bicker though, so am going to use this space to return to an unfinished thought from earlier on, It occurred to me when you said this:
...You say your whole thing is "WNs think this:..." (which we already knew,) and "...its just one view."
Why is it the only view you put forward?
You've spent countless words trying to keep the focus of the discussion on WN tropes to the exclusion of all others. You give them no platform.
Actually, I've spent very few words on it, the rest have been to point back to those in the face of people trying to (inadvertently) complicate issues. There is an alternative WN trope that I have so far failed to mention.
I wanted to take you up on the bolded part here, because I'm not sure what 'you already know' is the one I've discussed, but the 'alternative', it is also the simpler one. (the one 'we all know')
Remember, we are looking at possible explanations for the asymmetry in that YouGov poll. The traditional WN one is the one I haven't mentioned yet ie, different races think in inherently different ways, and therefore no explanation is needed. End of story
The one I've discussed is actually consistent with progressive thought, ie, the races are similar and therefore the asymmetry is anomalous and requires further thought. This is actually more alt-right than WN, but as I'm not sure that alt-right is a 'thing' yet, I'm sticking to more familiar terms.
Re: Angry White People
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 8:31 am
by 82_28
Great. Now I'm being watched. Oh well. But if you say who you say from where you are from I at least have a 12 hour head start.
They really contained the seeds of their own destruction, and thank God they went. Their style was a gift to their opposition.
Seems a fairly vanilla phrase to me, even when context has been stripped out
You talked about modern attempts to mainstream WN/BN, bemoaned the leaders around before those attempts,said you were glad they went, then you pointed out that what they were doing benefitted people who don't like racist violence or white, british nationalism. If you're gonna link those thinks in a paragraph instead of keeping them as separate ideas then don't get all defensive when people take you at your words.
Re: Angry White People
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 9:26 am
by jakell
82_28 » Sat Mar 05, 2016 1:07 pm wrote:I just do my part to keep things civil because I motherfucking remember the fucking old ass fucking days.
Like I said peer-moderation is underrated. I don't know about the old days on here, but having spent years on other forums I know about the storms and calms. You can relax around me though, I don't let folks get my goat too easily (self moderation is also underrated).
Hope you appreciated the Flame Warriors references, they're always good for a giggle. I reckon we all start of as Eagle Scout (I know I did), he's like the first card in the tarot,
You talked about modern attempts to mainstream WN/BN, bemoaned the leaders around before those attempts,said you were glad they went, then you pointed out that what they were doing benefitted people who don't like racist violence or white, british nationalism. If you're gonna link those thinks in a paragraph instead of keeping them as separate ideas then don't get all defensive when people take you at your words.
You're really reaching there, that isn't really a given in what I wrote.
We've been here before and I think you are studying my output as if it's a well written and considered paper, it's not. This is a conversational format and if I don't bang stuff down and press submit then it doesn't get done. The idea is to hone ideas and phraseology afterwards, not agonize over them and never post.
What did you think of my musings above on WN tropes? (you can consider those a 'work in progress' too).
Re: Angry White People
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 10:22 am
by Sounder
Not a given?
The points that Joe is making sure don't seem to be a stretch though.
82_28 » Sat Mar 05, 2016 5:07 am wrote:I just do my part to keep things civil because I motherfucking remember the fucking old ass fucking days.
I should have put that in green. I was just going back to myself swearing all the time. I thought some would get it. But it was meant as sarcasm.
Were you a hothead at one time then (forum wise)?
I sort of learned to cool myself a while back, but I never really made a concerted effort until I started dwelling on some right-leaning sites, then it becomes almost essential.
Re: Angry White People
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 1:06 pm
by 82_28
No, I was just basically known as someone who used the word "fuck" in some form all the time. Never to say "fuck you" but basically more "can you fucking believe this fucking shit" type shit. Barracuda called it the "fuckity fucks". Heavens no have I not deleted the word from my vocabulary. I love putting a "fuck" into just about anything I say. I've toned it down, in other words.
Re: Angry White People
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 5:43 pm
by Luther Blissett
I'm a constant hothead on the forum made up of all my real-life social circle, the people I see out around the city and with whom I make plans, throw parties, raise money for, invite to my shit, support in their endeavors.
I am a hothead among them because they are (mostly) neoliberal pieces of refuse. Way different than my real personality. But I do see it as a real mission to "fix" people I care about.
