desertfae?

[American Dream]

From the Jimmy Hughes thread:

American Dream wrote:

Yes- I did write in haste. It was not a very well-thought out statement to express my doubts about her story in that way. I have removed the offending sentence, for whatever it is worth.

[Col. Quisp]

Why stir up shit if you have "neither the time nor the energy" to go into it when someone questions your motives? Yet, you have lots of time and energy to cut and paste endlessly.

[NC Tyler]

My best guess has been that Rachel is some kind of ARG player

Are you saying that there's a game about this subject currently going on?

[barracuda]

Well played, NC.

[jingofever]

It looks like KESQ has been following the story for some time (look at the associated links on the left side). Here and here they reference desertfae.com. They also interviewed her. So popping an email over to desertfae.com should confirm whether our desertfae is legit or not. I assume she is.

Are you saying that there's a game about this subject currently going on?

I think the confusion maybe stems from this.

[NC Tyler]

I think the confusion maybe stems from this.

Ah, okay. I can see why you said that, AD. My ignorance at work (again).

Thanks, jingofever.

[OP ED]

I really don't have time for this now- but I will just say that I haven't known desertfae to be a participant on this board in the sense that most of the rest of us are- someone who is "around", makes comments on various things, whatever.

I knew her to be someone who came for a brief spell to represent her personal agenda, and then was gone. As far as I know she has not been part of this board culture for quite some time

dude she was here like a month ago and you were totally in that thread.

remember you relayed messages from Virginia M, or rather you didn't:

Anyway, I did correspond recently with VM about what was happening here and while I will not reproduce her comments here, I will say that she does not agree with desertfae's version of reality at all, nor does she trust her agenda.

and i complimented you on your leprechaun pic?

maybe it does feel like a long time ago. those were the days, eh?

Anyway, if any other people here want to "pile on" to someone, it will have to be someone else, as I have neither the time nor energy for this right now.

then you shouldn't have started a thread about another poster being a disinfoteer...

and who's piling? i was second in line and only because i type slow...

[stefano]

What interests me is the economics of the thing. How can these people afford to just fart around on the internet all day winding up people they'll never meet? Specifically, how can I get money and yet do bugger all?

As AD might say: that, to me, is the important question...

[American Dream]

Yes, I am very, very busy and distracted with many things right now. The whole desertfae thing is very much of a sideshow right now. I didn't make this thread as a place to call her out or anything- in regards to Jimmy Hughes's arrest, I was wondering if this changed the context of her story, or maybe even vindicated it.

Actually, as I have said, I was hoping someone might present the strongest case for why the desertfae story is legit. As I indicated- I would read it with an open mind and be quite ready to change my position.

Anyway- yeah, major brain fart in not remembering that she was here in August- before Jeff locked that thread due to a bad feeling about it- my apologies to all....

[Sounder]

AD wrote…

Anyway- yeah, major brain fart in not remembering that she was here in August- before Jeff locked that thread due to a bad feeling about it- my apologies to all....

Good call here AD, as now my post can be edited so as to not appear quite so rude, (or more rude, as the case may be). (on edit) Is your memory really that bad? And yes, Jeff froze that thread, is that your evidence that desertfae is a bad operator? Or simply more inuendo that is needed to replace any lack of evidence?

Searcher08 wrote…

A_D

Rachel is a member of this board. I wanted to remind you of Jeff's guidelines as I think your comments about Rachel fall into it.

Quote:

Suggesting a poster is purposefully spreading disinformation is not permitted. The charge or insinuation of "disinfo agent" can almost never be proven, and it poisons and often ends the discourse. If you have evidence that a poster is a disinfo agent, IM me with it.

Please refrain from personal attacks, and let's try to keep arguments issue-based.


Unless you have specific objective evidence that Rachel is not who she says and can report it to Jeff, please refrain from speaking about Rachel as spreading disinformation.

Then AD wrote…
My best guess has been that Rachel is some kind of ARG player, though perhaps there was more to it than that. I don't recall that the evidence that she offered us previously with regards to her identity was particularly strong at all.

If I am wrong about this, I'd love to see the evidence. I hadn't remembered that Rachel was a part of this forum. If things really are as she says they are, I'd love to see some compelling evidence and if I do I will put myself first in line to apologize to her.

You just engaged with her a month ago, so her not being ‘a part of this forum’ is known bullshit. (Sorry) You are the one to bring this charge AD, and it’s up to you to bring the evidence.

The response to OP ED does not cut it. These seem like weasel words that would be better replaced by an apology for mis-remembering. (Apology accepted) Or is the ‘spewing disinformation’ charge OK because Rachael is not an ‘active board member’?

I really don't have time for this now- but I will just say that I haven't known desertfae to be a participant on this board in the sense that most of the rest of us are- someone who is "around", makes comments on various things, whatever.

I knew her to be someone who came for a brief spell to represent her personal agenda, and then was gone. As far as I know she has not been part of this board culture for quite some time and I do apologize if I was unfair to her- I'll certainly try not to do so in the future.

Anyway, if any other people here want to "pile on" to someone, it will have to be someone else, as I have neither the time nor energy for this right now.

You set yourself up AD. Anyway I find it distasteful to gossip about folk that are not around. Also ‘personal agendas’ are not all bad, maybe even like trying to find justice for a murdered father.

AD, do you know if desertfae is the daughter of Ralph Arthur Boger? And if she is his daughter, then what benefit would there be in creating a false narrative, if her interest is to bring her fathers killers to justice?

[American Dream]

That's exactly what I hoped this thread would address, but so far nobody has stated the case in favor of her really being Boger's daughter- last I recall she failed miserably in providing reliable documentation that she is that.

If there is ever a strong case made that she is "for real", then my profoundest apologies to her will be in order. So far, that kind of evidence has not been forthcoming here...

[elfismiles]

That's exactly what I hoped this thread would address, but so far nobody has stated the case in favor of her really being Boger's daughter- last I recall she failed miserably in providing reliable documentation that she is that.

If there is ever a strong case made that she is "for real", then my profoundest apologies to her will be in order. So far, that kind of evidence has not been forthcoming here...

As I said in that original thread:

Back in March or so of last year I contacted Kenn Thomas and asked him about DesertFae and he said he knew Rachel saying he'd sent her copies of Casolaro's notes.

FWIW...

http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewt ... 784#279784

Since Kenn is a friend and trusted researcher that was enough for me. I don't think he would've given those notes to just anyone.

[American Dream]

I wouldn't say that Kenn Thomas has a perfect track record by any means, but on what basis did he endorse her?

[Sounder]

Then I take it that you 'assume' that she is not his daughter. As the validity of your accusations seem to depend on this, then maybe you could be so good as to examine your assumption and get back to us with some evidence.

[elfismiles]

I wouldn't say that Kenn Thomas has a perfect track record by any means, but on what basis did he endorse her?

Shit, who DOES have a "perfect" track record, AD? Start another thread with examples of his bad points or shenanigans. Yeah, I know, he aint perfect.

I honestly don't know what he did to vet her, but him having done primary research on the Octopus kinda puts me in a mind to think he'd KNOW about a daughter of one of the particulars in the case and wouldn't send materials to someone just claiming to be the daughter. Then again, that IS an assumption on my part. But so far I've seen nothing to make me doubt her.

Even my own interest in ARGs and her use of that term in apparently trying to use its Collective Detective aspects didn't convince me that she is anything more or less than she claims.

But you know what ... all this bullshit and suspicion goes back to the things I keep harping on around here: none of us knows who the fuck anyone is here. Sure, some of us have a more open-book approach to our online presence and most folks can / should be assured about the reality of our identity but ... with all the shit that has gone down here I very often wonder WHO IS WHO.

I've wondered if anyone else here would participate in an open directory of usernames where each of us can include whatever public data about ourselves that others might find useful or helpful in solidifying a REAL TRUST LEVEL. Maybe I'll go start that thread right now...