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Yes. The video says it's for a different region than I'm in. i can't view it either.

(My region is in Cognito — and, as far as that video is concerned, that's about the same region as people living in Communicado.)

MinM, just in case you have no idea how grossly and offensively racist an appearance slapping together the pictures of three African-American athletes with such minimal text that the only comprehensible verbal component of the post is the gutter- tabloid-style and boldly highlighted headline, "TIGER WOODS: "Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde" A CIA/MK ULTRA VICTIM? « In Search of Black Assassins," please allow me to clue you in:

It's very grossly and offensively racist in appearance. Vilely so, one might even say.

And personally, if that were applicable to one of my posts, I'd want to know it. So I'm telling you.

Oh come on C2W. I know what MinM meant -- I am a huge ass NBA fan and Artest's statement was fucking weird. Artest is fucking weird. The fact that the fucking Lakers win the championship year in year out is also weird. The amount of his/her archived contributions here show that all he/she is showing you something. I found it interesting. We're talking WEIRDNESS here, not racism. Mind Control!!! That's the topic and I think MinM did nothing out of any racial bias whatsoever.

82_28 wrote:Oh come on C2W. I know what MinM meant -- I am a huge ass NBA fan and Artest's statement was fucking weird. Artest is fucking weird. The fact that the fucking Lakers win the championship year in year out is also weird. The amount of his/her archived contributions here show that all he/she is showing you something. I found it interesting. We're talking WEIRDNESS here, not racism. Mind Control!!! That's the topic and I think MinM did nothing out of any racial bias whatsoever.

I didn't say otherwise. I said the post had the appearance of racism.

Because:

When I see a post that consists entirely of three pictures of big black men who are, among other things, professional physical objects with a very splashy headline suggesting that they're killers that also happens to be a link to an essay that footnotes lewrockwell.com and Gnostic Liberation Front -- currently featuring David Duke's review of Inglorious Basterds, in which "he shows that the film starring Brad Pitt and Eli Roth is nothing but a sadistic and pro-torture, sick Jewish hate film," btw -- speaking only for myself, I can't honestly say that I know what its author means by it.

I can say what it looks like, though.

Which is what I did, in non-personally accusatory terms. Because as I said, if it had been me, I'd have appreciated the heads-up. So. With no animosity or fingerpointing of any kind directed at anybody:

Come on yourself. It has a racist appearance.

I mean, I commend you for somehow knowing that irrespective of both its prima facie appearance and its link to an essay that sources hate sites it was meant as a comment on the weirdness of Ron Artest. But since I personally wasn't able to figure that out, I commented in neutral terms on what it looked like.

Needless to say, if you can tell me exactly what makes my having done that so out-of-bounds that it deserved your oh-please rebuke, I'd be happy to be chastened by you for having erred. But as things stand, I don't really see how I did. Except possibly on the side of charity and courtesy, in a very minor and unexceptionally collegial kind of way.

So let me know what I'm missing, if anything. Otherwise, no worries and cheers to all.

Found here:
http://vidreel.com/video/OTAxNjk0/ 62:30 minutes
press play, close ads that pop up, working for me, watching it now

Sure, it may have a racist *appearance*, but I think that was the point -- appearance. In my view, MinM has done nothing but contribute extremely interesting caveats to this board since MinM got here, often long, long after a thread has been dead too. Obviously, yes, mucho cheers C2W. I got somewhat pilloried here when I began posting and not lurking for a "googly eyed black person" thread topic I made concerning possible psy-ops within the spate of all the weird high profile killings and such which were going down seemingly focusing, media wise, on foisting a fear unto the public of black people and Muslims as well. I forget how it all went down and don't even feel like looking it up. But I understand sensitivities and have been much more careful to make my posts more clear when it comes to this. MinM could have thrown in a picture of Britney Spears and all would have been good I suppose -- as the topic, as it is, is mind control and Tiger Woods. I think it is within bounds to discuss whether or not there may or may not be a racial component to "mind control" as well.

I dunno. It's a hairy situation I guess. However, considering MinM's "body of work" thus far, I found his comment of pictures and clips interesting insofar as this particular topic. And honestly, I cannot comment any further on it as I really don't have any idea about anything. But again, cheers. I got no horse in this race and perhaps none of us do either.

Thank you, Julia!

Cordelia wrote:Thanks for the link Semper. Unfortunately, I have limited high-speed access through satellite, so I'll have to try to remember to download it in the middle of the night when it's 'free'. But, from the clip and what I read on the links & others (here's another, earlier essay from the blog linked by MinM http://mindcontrolblackassassins.wordpress.com/2009/12/) this is more than intriguing. I know two Army vets; both experienced missing time, both are gun enthusiasts since leaving the military, but, since their remembered marksmanship training didn't extend beyond boot camp, neither can account for his superior shooting ability. Under hypnosis, training Tiger to shoot golf balls with acute precision around his father's body might not be unlike training a sniper to hit a target...

Right, that's a very interesting site...

In Search of Black Assassins

With provocative thread titles too.
TIGER WOODS: "Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde" A CIA/MK ULTRA VICTIM? « In Search of Black Assassins

Speaking of linking to provocative thread titles.

82_28 wrote:Oh come on C2W. I know what MinM meant -- I am a huge ass NBA fan and Artest's statement was fucking weird. Artest is fucking weird. The fact that the fucking Lakers win the championship year in year out is also weird. The amount of his/her archived contributions here show that all he/she is showing you something. I found it interesting. We're talking WEIRDNESS here, not racism. Mind Control!!! That's the topic and I think MinM did nothing out of any racial bias whatsoever...

Thanks 82_28 there certainly was no malicious intent on my part. Given the history of this board, with the Stormfront crowd and their ilk, I probably should have been more sensitive to that. But I usually lump matters of Race and Religion together, as issues used cynically to achieve other goals, so a red flag pops up in my mind when someone tries to break things down in those terms. My prejudices tend to be of a more personal and visceral nature.

Ron Artest and the other 2 guys pictured in my previous post, that caused some consternation, are good examples of my personal prejudices. By all accounts Ron Artest and the late Dock Ellis are/were for the most part good guys who have both struggled with personal demons. I tend to be a sucker for those stories. And even Tiger Woods, who really does not appear to be a good guy, inevitably I'll find myself rooting for him too.

On the other hand, at some gut level, I can't stand Phil Jackson...

Dave Zirin: Boycott Phil Jackson: Why Lakers Fans Should Root for Los Suns

or Kobe Bryant, for that matter.

BTW to all concerned, I have stopped beating my wife and kids, which was made easier by the fact that I never started...

Although I did allow my daughters to take Dance Lessons.

compared2what? wrote:MinM, just in case you have no idea how grossly and offensively racist an appearance slapping together the pictures of three African-American athletes with such minimal text that the only comprehensible verbal component of the post is the gutter- tabloid-style and boldly highlighted headline, "TIGER WOODS: "Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde" A CIA/MK ULTRA VICTIM? « In Search of Black Assassins," please allow me to clue you in:

It's very grossly and offensively racist in appearance. Vilely so, one might even say.

And personally, if that were applicable to one of my posts, I'd want to know it. So I'm telling you.

For chrissakes, please stop being so thin-skinned, unclutch your pearls and get off the fainting couch, you all.

It was not an attack or an accusation. It was an observation. I spoke from the point of view of someone who once would not have allowed something that suggested racism unintended by an author or artist into print. I was not laying down the law.

I mean, if you all would like to go on feeling personally victimized by my dreadful and judgmental wrath, before which the mighty cower, please go right ahead.

Because it is, after all, all about you, personally. Every bit of it. And by "it" I mean "everything that's ever happened to anyone in world history. Therefore, quite clearly, observations regarding the appearance of your posts -- of which you might not have been aware -- are obviously a just cause for all of you to gather yourselves into high-school-type cliques in order to nurse your grievances and plot your revenge against the poster whose honest observation it was. That's the spirit that once made America great, and as good citizens you can do no less.
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IOW: Grow up, for the love of God.

If you didn't do anything wrong by your own standards and you're firmly persuaded that I was oversensitive to be offended by that post, I'd be the last person to argue with you about your right to your own view of the matter. I expressed mine. It had no personal implications and it still doesn't. You don't have to agree with it.

But hey! Newsflash! Breaking! Neither do like-minded people have to all join together and kick the people with whom they disagree in tones of long-suffering morally superior condescension! Instead, they can speaking their minds in plain and confident yet basically courteous terms! Extra, extra!

82_28 and MinM, I'll reply to you each briefly and separately in just a few moments.

Still trying to catch up with the new threads--thank you for posting about this, semper occultus. I have a dim recollection of hearing mention of a programmer-type in Woods' past (cannot recall where, unfortunately), but I had no idea he was dissociative enough to lose chunks of time. Jeez. Learning this has made me more a bit more compassionate about his disgusting behavior, which is probably a good thing, since lately the sight of his face on the news had become downright off-putting to me.

Entirely apart from the nasty exploitative mind control aspect of this, I find myself wondering all over again what our minds are truly capable of...? The discipline and skills training still has to be present, but what might we be capable of achieving if self-doubt/internal conflict could be switched off and focus could be improved? And I hope the thread can be restored to its original topic and not wander off into the weeds the way so many mind control threads seem to do. Once it devolves into hurt feelings/defensiveness/rebuttal, it's been difficult in the past to focus again on the topic.

LilyPat

For chrissakes, please stop being so thin-skinned, unclutch your pearls and get off the fainting couch, you all.

Done and done. I think everything is all good. Now let's carry on.

82_28 wrote:Sure, it may have a racist *appearance*, but I think that was the point -- appearance.

I have no idea what the second part means. But to my eyes, it did have a racist appearance. For the second time, that's why I said it appeared racist.

In my view, MinM has done nothing but contribute extremely interesting caveats to this board since MinM got here, often long, long after a thread has been dead too. Obviously, yes, mucho cheers C2W. I got somewhat pilloried here when I began posting and not lurking for a "googly eyed black person" thread topic I made concerning possible psy-ops within the spate of all the weird high profile killings and such which were going down seemingly focusing, media wise, on foisting a fear unto the public of black people and Muslims as well. I forget how it all went down and don't even feel like looking it up.

Well. Allow me to refresh your quirkily selective memory. Much to my regret, I long ago jumped down your fucking throat for using the term "googly-eyed" in relation to Arabs. I was posting late at night and used much more aggressive and inconsiderate language than was necessary or justified to make my point.

Next day, IIRC, elfismiles started a thread specifically dedicated to canvassing opinion wrt what he perceived as my oversensistivity, in which I repeatedly apologized to you for my tone and explained the grounds for my objection, with which, again, nobody is obligated to agree. Notwithstanding which, I do have the same right as everyone else to express and explain my views. Which I do in the hopes that others will be edified by them, even if their own views differ from mine.

To further recall to you how that all went down -- which was, on balance, with the majority in your favor not mine -- here is a link to the four pages of discussion that ensued, complete with trollery by Percival which I briefly forgot I wasn't supposed to openly acknowledge that I recognized as such. Or, if you'd just prefer to go with the highlights reel, here are some representative excerpts from our posts on the matter:

c2w wrote:Um...Please let me eat shit 82_28. I was the one who should have clarified. And my failure to do so was more insensitive than yours was by a factor of about gazillion. Because obviously, I knew beyond doubt that there were words and an image in my post that belonged to a specific lexicon of unambiguously inflammatory and hateful idiom, with the explicit aim of calling attention to your use of a word from the same lexicon. And I'm a totally irredeemable asoul (h/t yathrib) for not having either taken the time to:

(a) make it plain that the reason I was pointing that out was because I didn't think you fully knew that word for what it was, and not because I thought that you did; or

(b) said what I had to say neutrally and without unnecessary and uncalled for personal implications.

82_28 wrote:BTW c2w, don't worry about it. I know where my heart sits and from the posts over time you've written, the same goes for you. Don't eat shit at all. Not perturbed in the least. Just wanted to clarify is all.

And there it might have rested, had not Zap joined in, after all had seemingly been resolved, with (including your response):

82_28 wrote:

Zap wrote:

82_28 wrote:

We have a googly eyed Muslim army major who massacres a bunch of his comrades.

Another googly eyed Muslim getting tried as a "terrorist" in a civilian court for crimes committed on 9-11.

Another googly eyed man named Muhammed got executed AT 9:11 the other night.

And now Obama's googly eyed brother has spilled the beans about an abusive man, raised within the Islamic faith and just so happens to be Osababama's dad.

If you weren't trying to stir the pot or be racist, why the repetition of "googly eyed" at all? What non-racist meaning did it add?

Sweet jumpin' Jesus trampoline center. Sometimes you can't win to lose. I recognize that. I was PRECISELY pointing out the inherent and implicit racism that such actions play into the hands of. I thought at the time I was attempting to extrapolate the intended effect of an anti-muslim "psyop". Period.

I also thought most here may appreciate the irony of "googly eyed" dudes insofar as the clear and obvious MO of these recent developments. And BTW, I used to work in a liquor store in Denver many years ago and "googly eyed" was the term we all used to refer to the very far gone alkies. It's a term I've always used. And frankly, thinking about it, it only refers to crazy people when I employ the term.

Yes, I am still beating my wife.

Which led to this further clarification and apology from me:

c2w wrote:If I haven't already made it crystal clear that I recognized that your explanation was sincere beyond question the first time you made it, please allow me to do so now. You are absolutely not being accused by me of any wittingly bad act of any kind. You never were. I should have made that clear in my post to the other thread. I say again that it's inexcusable that I didn't. But I didn't. As I said before, the egregious error in judgment was mine not yours. Because I knew the implications of the words I was using and I didn't believe that you did. I honestly didn't perceive how harshly what I wrote actually was. As one sometimes doesn't. I knew that what I meant was:


"You should be aware that the phrase "googly-eyed" in that context has racist connotations and they're very, very extreme. Roughly equivalent to the connotations of former Secretary of Agriculture Earl Butz's career-ending quip that all the coloreds wanted was "tight pussy, lose shoes, and a warm place to shit."

IOW, it's associated with the unreconstructed pre-reconstruction racism of the Old South. I thought you'd want to know."

I wish I'd said that. It's what I meant. I thought, for god knows what reason, that my meaning was clear when I posted. That did not last any longer than it took for me to read it the second time 12 or so hours later.

I'm sorry. Very sorry. Please believe that there is no point related to your post that I'm standing by apart from:

"You should be aware that the phrase "googly-eyed" in that context has racist connotations and they're very, very extreme. Roughly equivalent to the connotations of former Secretary of Agriculture Earl Butz's career-ending quip that all the coloreds wanted was "tight pussy, lose shoes, and a warm place to shit."

IOW, it's associated with the unreconstructed pre-reconstruction racism of the Old South. I thought you'd want to know."

Okay?

And this further acceptance of my explanation from you:

I was responding to Zap, not you c2w. Have no fear, as it were.

So if all of that was insincere on your part, and you are in actual fact still feeling sore about it, please, please tell me. Because I really am genuinely sorry.

And, oops, not so brief, after all, I guess.

But whatever. Wrapping up:

(a) I said it had a racist appearance and that's all I said. You concede that it did, and throw in a defense of MinM against an attack I didn't make on MinM. For the second time. Given that repetition leaves a stronger impression than truth does -- as I believe we've mentioned here from time to time -- I'd appreciate it if you stopped posting to righteously defend MinM against the vicious calumnies I didn't subject him to.

(b) This:

In my view, MinM has done nothing but contribute extremely interesting caveats to this board since MinM got here,

Caveats? I don't understand you.

(c) This:

I understand sensitivities and have been much more careful to make my posts more clear when it comes to this. MinM could have thrown in a picture of Britney Spears and all would have been good I suppose -- as the topic, as it is, is mind control and Tiger Woods. I think it is within bounds to discuss whether or not there may or may not be a racial component to "mind control" as well.

I agree that it's within bounds, and would even go so far as to say that it's not really a question of whether there may or may not be such a component. Because there's actually a pretty well-documented history of mind control in conjunction with racial provocation in the United States, going back decades. For example, the number that appears to have been done on the mind of Patty-Hearst kidnapper and Scary Big Black Man in the Eyes of the Media, Donald "Cinque" DeFreeze.

That is, in part, why (by my possibly oversensitive standards) it behooves us all to be alert to words and imagery that may inadvertently reinforce the validity of those used by the controllers. I mean, we don't want to get fooled again, do we?

Or do we?

No. Of course we don't. So that's all. Please tell me if you're still hurt over the googly-eyed thing, honey. Because you really shouldn't be. I was wrong, and although I did my best to put that wrong to rights, I wouldn't have ever stopped doing that if I hadn't thought I'd succeeded.

Also please read "(b)" four or five times if necessary. Because I'm really not interested in being inadvertently slung up repeatedly for shit I didn't say, intend to say, or imply. As I'm sure you can understand, these things going both ways, as they do.

Truly, nothing but love,

c2w

Absolutely, my friend. Thanks.

MinM wrote:Right, that's a very interesting site...

I'll say!

In Search of Black Assassins wrote: N.W.A’s Black nigga killa as an example of their works has all of the elements of a racialist propropaganda program to stigmatize and demonize Black youth of the inner city as a culture of virtual savages. Gangsta Rap has it all; inhumane unmitigated hatred and violence, criminality, inherited evil and wickedness, demonic possession, spiritual warfare, and threats against public order and peace.



Early Photo of Ice Cube-A Gangsta?

O’Shea Jackson a.k.a Ice Cube wrote most of the lyrics for N.W.A. I suspect that Ice Cube formed N.W.A’s lyrics for raps following set formulas developed by an expert propagandist. For instance, raps must comprise lyrics must refer to objects as ”Niggas”, Murder and Slaying (50%), Rape (20%), Senseless Violence (10%), Guns (10%), Demonic Possession (10%). His first group was called, the C.I.A. Was Ice Cube an inside covert propagandist and sellout, the Josef Goebbels of Gangsta Rap?



International War Criminal, Dr. Paul Josef Goebbels, The Reich Minister of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda
Lucifer’s Servant, Dr. Paul Josef Goebbels, the Third Reich’s Minister for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda, couldn’t have written a better script to convince the world that Black People are less than human. Goebbels was one of Hitler’s closest associates. There is no reliable or collaborating evidence that Goebbels died on May 1, 1945 in Hitler’s Bunker in Berlin.

Sounds to me like somebody's been smokin' the wacky-chewbacky. Wait, check this one out:

In Search of Black Assassins wrote:It is unknown how long Spielberg has been secretly meeting and getting his marching orders from the Bilderberg Group and the Nazi Underground dominated Pentagon in producing racial, political and cultural propaganda films for the state. For decades, the Pentagon was controlled by Reichsfurhrer SS Heinrich Himmler’s resident U.S. Knight of Black Sun, Brigadefuhrer SS Dr. Fritz Gustane Anton Kraemer.

Someone ought to tell Hugh about this site... uhhh, nevermind.