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Mass shooting at Batman screening in Aurora, Colo.; At least 12 dead, dozens more wounded

Updated at 8:38 a.m. ET

(CBS/AP) AURORA, Colo. - A gas mask-wearing gunman opened fire early Friday at a suburban Denver movie theater, leaving at least 12 people dead and dozens more injured, police said.

The violent and chaotic scene erupted about 12:30 a.m. local time as a gunman, identified as 24-year-old James Holmes, stood at the front of one of the Century 16 theaters at the Aurora Mall where the latest Batman movie "The Dark Knight Rises" was playing. Witnesses reported that the gunman entered the theater through an emergency exit door and threw a gas canister before opening fire.

"Witnesses tell us he released some sort of canister. They heard a hissing sound and some gas emerged and the gunman opened fire," Aurora Police Chief Dan Oates said at a news conference.

Police, ambulances and emergency crews swarmed on the scene after frantic calls started flooding the 911 switchboard, officials said.

Officers found Holmes near a car behind the theater. He surrendered without resistance, police said.

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Police recovered four guns at the theater - one shotgun, two pistols and what is believed to be an assault rifle, a law enforcement source told CBS News correspondent Bob Orr. Authorities also recovered a gas mask.

Oates said there's no evidence of any other attackers. There was also no immediate word of any motive. Federal law enforcement officials are being briefed on the attack, but at this point, there is no indication it is terrorism-related, CBS News senior correspondent John Miller reports.

The suspect spoke of "possible explosives in his residence. We are dealing with that potential threat," Oates said. Police were at the Denver-area apartment and had evacuated other residents of the building. Oates did not say whether any explosives had been found, but Orr reports that Holmes' residence was "booby-trapped" and police can see what looks like "buckets of extra ammunition" and some kind of chemicals, according to a law enforcement source.

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He said police also checked for explosives in the parking lot and theater, and secured those areas.

It was the worst mass shooting in Colorado since the Columbine High School massacre on April 20, 1999. Students Eric Harris, 18, and Dylan Klebold, 17, opened fire at the school in the Denver suburb of Littleton, about 15 miles west of Aurora, killing 12 classmates and a teacher and wounding 26 others before killing themselves in the school's library.

The shooting occurred in Theater 9, which has a capacity of around 300 people, according to CBS station KCNC in Denver. The youngest reported victim is a 3-month-old, who is said to be doing fine at University Hospital, which is treating 20 patients, including nine in critical condition. Another victim is a six-year-old being treated at Children's Hospital, where a total of six victims were taken. Their condition wasn't known. Victims were rushed to six area hospitals overall.
Aurora police spokesman Frank Fania on ABC's "Good Morning America" said he didn't know yet if all the injuries were gunshot wounds. He said some might have been caused by other things such as shrapnel.

Police had earlier reported 14 deaths, but later said that only 12 fatalities were confirmed, KCNC reported.

An amateur video posted to Youtube (scroll down to see) showed people walking around outside the theater, allegedly in the moments after the incident. One man was seen wearing a shirt that appeared to be bloodstained. He was being led by a police officer. Some people could be heard shouting.

William Kent, who was in an adjacent theater, said bullets came through the wall but with the action on screen, people didn't realize what was happening.

"And they started the fire alarm or the emergency alarm, said that there had been something that happened in the building and evacuated everybody. There was a huge commotion to get out of the theater. When I exited, there were police officers with assault rifles running in," Kent told CBS News.

Benjamin Fernandez, who was also in an adjacent theater, said he saw a young girl, around 12 or 13 years old, laying on the concrete when he exited the building.
"From what I saw, she had two bullet wounds in her leg and just blood all over her stomach. Her friends were all just yelling, crying. ... We were just all pretty much in shock," he said on "CBS This Morning."

Witness Hayden Miller told KUSA-TV that he was inside Theater 16 and heard several shots.

"Like little explosions going on and shortly after that we heard people screaming," he told the station.

Hayden said at first he thought it was part of a louder movie next door. But then he saw "people hunched over leaving theater."

Paul Otermat, who told Sky News he was in the theater when the incident occurred, said he "thought it was a publicity stunt," when he saw a man in a long coat walk in and hurl what he believed was a tear gas canister at the crowd.

"Then he started firing shots into the crowd," Otermat said. He says he and his girlfriend ducked to the floor and crept out as gunfire continued. "My girlfriend saw a canister on the ground that was still foaming ... We ran through the lobby and we heard more shots, and we ran out into the parking lot and got into our car and left."

The police said 10 victims died at the theater and two at area hospitals.

Two people in critical condition were rushed to nearby Swedish Medical Center, spokeswoman Nicole Williams said.

She said emergency crews told her staff to prepare for several more patients from the shooting scene.

"We're on standby to receive," she said.

Aurora is located on the southeast outskirts of Denver, about 10 miles from downtown.

President Barack Obama said in a statement that he and first lady Michelle Obama were "shocked and saddened" by the "horrific and tragic" shooting. Obama said his administration would do everything they can to support the people of Aurora, Colo.

"As we do when confronted by moments of darkness and challenge, we must now come together as one American family. All of us must have the people of Aurora in our thoughts and prayers as they confront the loss of family, friends, and neighbors," Obama said.

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney said in a statement that he and his wife, Ann, were "deeply saddened by the news of the senseless violence" that led to the loss of life and injuries. He said they were praying for the families and loved ones of the victims "during this time of deep shock and immense grief. We expect that the person responsible for this terrible crime will be quickly brought to justice."

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chump wrote:I woke up to this horrible news.

14 (12) Dead, 50 Hurt In Mass Shooting Inside Aurora Movie Theater

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/31 ... etail.html

The death count has just been lowered, but many are in critical condition. Witness's say the shooter walked in the back door of the theatre during a gunfire scene in the movie wearing a gas mask and body armor, firing up in the air before turning the weapon on the crowd with a long form weapons. Many thought it was a part of the show.

It is being reported that the lone, white male shooter has turned himself in bearing tear gas mask, a rifle and a pistol . Police have evacuated and are tentatively approaching the suspects apartment now. The shooter told police that he has incendiary devices in his car and home. Of course, there were two shooters reported, but police insist that there was just the one.

Graphic accounts are being reported. Baby was reportedly shot at point blank range in front of parents. Another pregnant woman shot in the face.

Starting a new thread about my synchromystic dream possiblyon that last evening as it would be OT.

You know, I don't often stop on threads to register my disgust and bewilderment with the horrors of daily events, because if I made a habit of it that's all I would be doing all day. But in this case I feel like I have to. i'm disgusted and bewildered.

take this FWIW -- here's a comprehensive timeline from Reddit -- it's full of links, so check the Reddit pages for more info.

Part One
http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/wv8t1/comprehensive_timeline_aurora_massacre/

Part Two
http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/wvb5e/comprehensive_timeline_part_2_aurora_massacre/

Part Three
http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/wvimc/comprehensive_timeline_part_3_aurora_massacre/

ABSTRACT
Shooting at the AMC Century Cinema: map, local police scanner. Bomb was may have been confirmed. It certainly sounded like it. Apparently a bomb may have blown up a part of a theater at the Dark Knight Rises premiere. Although the news isn't corroborating this right now, it definitely sounded like it on the scanner. Actually, it was probably the tear gas canisters.
Theater 9 (epicenter), Theater 8 (some hit), Theater 16 (people heard tear gas canisters)

ALL TIMES IN MDT, AM
1:27: "Bring as much crime scene tape as you can"
1:28: Aurora PD merging communications with Denver PD
1:35: Shooter wearing green camp pants
1:37: bomb squad is there, bringing in K-9 units. possible other bombs
1:40: 18 ambulances on scene
1:41: 9news story posted.
1:42: "All ten people in the theater are black." In this context, it means fatalities.
1:43: Report of a bomb going off in a theater.
1:45: Patients being transported to Denver Health
1:47: Command staff briefing. This is huge.
1:49: Car, Tennesee plates, Hyundai, license [redacted]. third to west, in front of doors. Possible bomb. Main entrances of mall covered. Bomb squad moving in.
1:53: Canine units coordinating at SE entrance between JC Penney's and the food court. May be a bomb in there. Theory that bombs may be in front of theater.
1:55: New evidence for shooters. That's plural. Theater 8, the shooter was seated. One more was outside, went into Theater 9. Coordinated attack. Two shooters. Open door discovered at mall. Suspicion of bomb in there.
1:56: One shooter at large, one in custody. From Facebook: Someone set off some little party poppers in our theatre, next thing I know someone runs in and said there was a shooting. We huddled down into the seats because people were outside the exit. I was fortunate enough to get home safely with my sister but a few friends are still stuck there.
1:57: Due to bombs, police relocating all units to S of Dillard's. Open door was in Macy's. Suspicions of bombs there.
2:01: Submitted to Reddit. Second device possibly found, setting up a "unified command"
2:06: On /r/denver.
Comment from ThePenguinist: My best friend was at this. She said it happened about 30-40 minutes into the midnight premiere. Someone burst through the door and started shooting tear gas and then a gun. The only reason they got out was because they hit the ground and went for the door on their bellies. OMFG.
2:04: MSNBC tweets the story.
2:06: Secondary explosive device found in front of theater
2:08: Bringing K-9 unit to the command post.
2:14: Indian male found as witness. People (witnesses) moving to the food court entrance
2:18: Witnesses being transported to Gateway High School. There are 100 witnesses.
2:26: Story on MSNBC here
At least 20 people were hurt following a shooting at a movie theater in Aurora, Colo., police said Friday. The incident occurred at a cinema showing the Batman film "The Dark Knight Rises," a police official told NBC News. One suspect was in custody, police said. It was unclear whether other suspects were involved. The injured were being transported to three local hospitals. A bomb squad was on site at the Century 16 movie theater, police added.
2:28: Theatre 9 going to Gateway HS. Everyone else is triaged. No vehicles allowed to leave. Witnesses being photographs.
2:30: Water jugs being moved.
2:36: Called the Denver Batman massacre by the Belfas Telegraph
2:42: "Possible older cop car-type seen fleeing the scene"
2:45: Which ambulances going where: 5 to Denver, 14 to University, 4 to Children's, 3 to Aurora South, 2 to Parker, 2 to Swedish
2:47: From 9News: 15 mins into movie, popping heard. People thought it was part of the movie. Saw material coming through the wall. Chaotic. Caused a scramble. Several injured people escorted into ambulances. Flow of ambulances slowed down, flow of police has not. SWAT teams there. Theater 9: Guy in body armor. "One of the largest scenes I've seen in my journalistic career."
2:52: Several police cars surrounding a vehicle. Possible explosive devices inside.
2:54: Tuned in to the 9News stream.
2:58: Newscast from Gateway HS. Witness is talking. People heard explosions and gunfire. No idea what happened. One shooter had a gas mask and was throwing tear gas.
2:59: Scanners report knife pulled on someone. WAY far away from theater. May be unrelated.
3:01: Someone reporting hand pain outside the theater.
3:02: Confirmed: At least 10 killed, 39 injured. Theaters 8 and 9 were sold out, and that's where the shooting took place. 9News confirms that one person is in custody.
3:02: Nothing found inside the mall so far. Dogs coming out.
3:06: Witness interview from earlier being replayed. Witness in Theater 9 was young woman. She described a man about 6' tall kicked through the door in a riot helmet and bulletproof vest. He was completely covered in all black, with goggles. After that, she and her boyfriend dropped to the floor. They got up, ran through the emergency exit. Shooter made his way up the stairs and started shooting people with the shotgun.
3:10: News is stalling until the police chief address.
3:15: Press conference: Gas released, gunman opened fire. Only know of one gunman. Police officers respond, find the gunman outside of the theater, carrying gas mask, rifle, handgun. One additional weapon found inside. 50 were hit. 14 confirmed dead.
3:15: Comment from elcoolerick: I live in Aurora, CO, Thought I'd share. "We were 20 min into the movie when the fire alarms started going off. We thought it was a prank. Then emergency intercom came on say there was a situation and we need to evacuate immediately. Next thing we know there was a police officer was outside the emergency exit with a shotgun yelling at us to run as far away from the theater as possible. We run out. There were people covered with blood every where with what looked like bullet wounds. Kids were crying . It was a terrible scene. Talked to some people, they are saying a man came into one of the theaters threw an explosive device and started shooting." -from a guy that was there.
More info from friends. "I was in the theatre, 9 people are dead shooting started inside the theatre and went to the back of the theatre. 3 people got show few rows infront of me and cops are up there with the SWAT with automatics and everything.It was scary. The first shots that were fired everyone stayed calm because they thought it was stupid kids with bottle caps. 2nd wave was fired the niggas ran out the theatre and thats when hell broke loose. Everyone was vulnerabe even as they left through the emergency exits" -KC Cannady
second part doesn't sound intelligent, but posted for historical reasons
3:30: AR-15 was the gun potentially used. One shooter or two? Many questions and very few answers other than a new death toll after the press conference. Keep your thoughts with the victims and their families.
3:42: More testimonies. Babies and small girls shot. News anchors getting emotional. Reports that the suspect had explosives in his apartment, which is also being searched.
3:48: Another /r/denver post from WaterSnake: here
3:49: More confirmation. 14 dead. 50 injured.
3:58: damian001 finds a video of the shooters aftermath. Warning, graphic contents.
4:01: We beat 9News on the video. The video is extremely graphic, and they aren't showing it with audio.
4:04: "No reason to believe there is a second gunman"
4:06: 10 died at the theater, 4 died at the hospital. 50 others had injuries.
4:13: 911 calls and police radio being played. They're talking about the tear gas.


AURORA MASSACRE: INCIDENT REPORT
Deaths Wounded Casualties
12 38 50
Hospital Victims Critical Released Dead
Children's 6 ??? ??? 1
Swedish 4 2 1 ???
University 21 9 ??? ???
Aurora Medical 15 4 4 ???
Denver Health 6 ??? 3 ???
Parker 2 ??? ??? ???
54 15 8 1
Please keep them in your thoughts.
Aurora PD info number: 303-627-3100; family support: call 303-873-5292 or 720-848-2626
Realtime Google coverage: here
JOIN: #theatreshooting on irc.freenode.net
CHECK OUT PART 3
I'm going to keep updating here. Ran out of room for the first selfpost. First one here.
Thanks for all the support, everyone!
5:32: /u/dr0ne_: Take with an entire container of salt. 4chan thread Also: "Shut that area down, we don't want anyone to trigger these devices"
5:33: Suspect's house confirmed: 17th & Peoria
5:35: FBI: Suspect indicates he has explosives at his house.
5:36: /u/jason-samfield: Tissue samples being collected for evidence.
5:40: /u/hgmanifold: Bomb Squad released.
5:43: /u/SimonHova: Twitter link of first (unconfirmed) victim. Her last tweet was 20 minutes before the start of the movie. source
5:44: /u/nilicule: All available SWAT to report to 17th and Peoria for meeting will be soon releasing a team.
Also, from /u/nilicule: The cinema where the attack took place is just under 20 miles from Columbine High School, where two students shot dead 13 people in 1999.
5:46: Hospital releasing numbers very soon.
5:47: Beardstone: Report of guy with handgun leaving in red car.
5:49: Good news. Death count revised from 14/15 to 12.
5:53: /u/hgmanifold + /u/CCFTW: Bomb squad was released from the vehicle at the theater. Second unit on scene at the apt. complex.
5:55: Tweets posted. Trending as #theatershooting.
5:59: /u/shankee: Tweet found from @RamCNN. Also, /u/hgmanifold: Fire Tower 8 will be entering "Hot Zone".
6:00: /u/Beardstone: "Tower is going in"
6:03: /u/nilicule: Witness account of shooting here
6:04: /u/derphurr: Possible picture of the shooter car: here - warning, blood
6:05: /u/shankee: GrrlScientist tweets about the shooting. Interesting.
6:06: FBI: Shooter had an assault rifle, two handguns, and teargas. The car had Tennessee plates. Shooter born in December '87. Shooter has given police a name, but needs to be confirmed. Apprehended outside the theater.
6:08: Adams, Aurora, and Denver county bomb squads are investigating his apartment.
6:09: /u/CCFTW + /u/OrgasmicWalrus: 2 federal officials say suspect in Colorado movie theater mass shooting is James Holmes, born December 13, 1987. @NBCNews - also, 9News is playing same dispatch audio again
6:10: Confirmed and cross-referenced by /u/hgmanifold, /u/shankee, /u/nilicule, /u/purmou, /u/mkyweriga
6:12: Only contact with Holmes was a traffic ticket. /u/derphurr: His apartment is across the street from Peoria Elementary School.
6:13: /u/disorderlee: Video of the police arriving at the apartment.
6:14: Reddit, this is one time you probably should try to dig up some personal information about this guy.
6:16: Go, Reddit, go! List of hospitals moved to the top.
6:19: /u/shankee: 14 minutes of posted police radio here
6:20: FBI agent beginning to enter 3rd floor window of the apartment. "Items of interest" found (/r/nilicule).
6:24: /u/solie: 3-month old "doing fine"
6:27: /u/hgmanifold: Electricity is NOT to be shut off, just in case of triggers. Also, (/u/shankee) Denver Health upgrades the critical patient to "fair condition"
6:29: /u/nilicule: Gas was shut off to the suspect's building.
6:31: /u/nilicule: Time releases an image gallery from outside the theatre.
6:33: /u/dynabetes finds a possible White Pages entry for James E. Holmes
6:35: /u/nilicule finds some Reddit photos from a victim. WARNING! GRAPHIC!
6:36: /u/CrayonOfDoom posts confirmation of another victim that died.
6:42: /u/disorderlee: Links to suspect's possible online profiles.
6:45: /u/nilicule: Suspect's mother tells @ABCNews that the police have the right man.
6:50: /u/hgmanifold: chatter: "If this thing does go, be prepared to be defensive because of the 'stuff' inside the building"
6:51: /u/nilicule: "Dark Knight Rises" Paris premiere CANCELLED.
6:52: /u/solle: 3-month-old discharged!
6:58: /u/shankee: Warner Bros. statement: "We extend our sincere sympathies to the families and loved ones of the victims at this tragic time."
7:00: Ignore the ldmaster profiles, please: unless we find something out, please don't post personal info. Thanks.
7:03: /u/hgmanifold: PD is requesting HazMat.
7:10: /u/fatmanbrigade: Huffington post timeline of how the shooting news spread
7:15: Bomb squad leaving the suspect's apartment.
7:16: /u/nilicule: CNN: As precaution, NYPD will be providing coverage at theaters where 'The Dark Knight Rises' is playing. source; /u/blerg: Guy who was in theater 9: here, and girl here
7:17: /u/nilicule: Badly placed ad running over the story on the Denver Post
7:23: /u/fatmanbrigade posts local live streams for ABC; CBS; NBC; FOX, thanks!
7:30: /u/shankee: CNN: No explosives found at suspect's apartment source
7:33: /u/shankee: "Medical student, quiet and easygoing." twitter
7:35: Press conference by Aurora Medical Center. Stats on their way.
7:36: /u/nilicule: One of those killed in Aurora is a 6-year-old girl, father tells KDVR-TV
7:40: /u/nilicule + /u/shankee: President Obama has cut his Florida campaign swing short because of the shooting.
7:45: Received Reddit Gold from an anonymous redditor. Thanks! You all are awesome!
7:51: /u/nilicule: NYPD Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly on increased security at New York City movie theaters following Colorado mass shooting: news story
7:53: /u/jonate: 9News tries to source claims from 9gag and realizes it's a troll
8:00: /u/shankee: Federal officials: Aurora gunman propped open rear door of theater, put on gear, threw tear gas, and began shooting. source
8:05: /u/faraya: Witness is saying someone received a phone call, went to Exit door and held it open with his foot. After this the shooter came in. 711:00:00 mark on 9News
8:12: Colorado Governor Hickenlooper on Aurora mass shooting: here
8:15: Try not to pursue people named James Holmes on Facebook.
8:17: Barack Obama calls mayor of Aurora. He will speak on the incident from Florida. Washington is hugely involved.
8:20: /u/shankee: Buckets of ammo found in the apartment.
8:24: /u/nilicule: We do not believe at this point there was an apparent nexis [sic] to terrorism," White House spokesman Jay Carney says.
8:28: /u/nilicule: The U.S. Army, concerned over speculation that the shooter might have been a veteran — and eager to stifle the meme of the psychotic veteran before it spread — felt compelled to email that a database check of the suspect resulted in "no evidence suggest[ing] this individual served in the Army." via Wired
8:33: NBC interviews: here and here
8:36: /u/nilicule: Huffington Post profile of James Holmes
Ran out of room for this selfpost as well. Continued here.


AURORA MASSACRE: INCIDENT REPORT
Deaths Wounded Casualties
12 38 50
Hospital Victims Critical Released Dead
Children's 6 ??? ??? 1
Swedish 4 2 1 ???
University 23 9 ??? ???
Aurora Medical 15 4 4 ???
Denver Health 6 ??? 3 ???
Parker 2 ??? ??? ???
56 15 8 1
Please keep them in your thoughts.
Aurora PD info number: 303-627-3100; family support: call 303-873-5292 or 720-848-2626
Realtime Google coverage: here
JOIN: #theatreshooting on irc.freenode.net
I'm going to keep updating here. Ran out of room for the first and second selfposts. First one here; second here.
Thanks for all the support, everyone!
8:40: /u/nilicule: Media speculation about the shooting.
8:42: 3 more months of anonymous Reddit Gold! Thanks, guys!
8:44: /u/Deus_Viator: Blood banks are looking for O- and platelet donors.
8:45: /u/nilicule: Apartment of Aurora shooting suspect is booby-trapped with flammable or explosive material, Aurora police say
8:50: President Obama is addressing the nation. Audio of his comments already uploaded here (/u/tenuto). Transcript here (/u/apeudire)
8:53: /u/nilicule: 5 buildings evacuated around the site.
8:58: /u/nilicule: Explosives appear 'very sophisticated' and police could be at scene 'for hours or days,' Aurora police chief says
9:00: /u/Deus_Viator: Hazmat team has arrived at the suspect's residence.
9:03: Wasting a little time. More Reddit Gold. Thanks, guys.
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9:10: University of Colo. Med School says shooting suspect was student there but withdrew last month.

this is interesting, too -- CNN reporting (tweeting?) that the suspect was due in court today:

https://twitter.com/ProducerMatthew/sta ... 0300525568

#CUDenver confirms #theatershooter, James Holmes, getting PHD in neuroscience-- started in fall of 2011; withdrew last month.
https://twitter.com/denverchannel/statu ... 1476421632

Is anyone discussing this?

8:05: /u/faraya: Witness is saying someone received a phone call, went to Exit door and held it open with his foot. After this the shooter came in. 711:00:00 mark on 9News

or this?

5:47: Beardstone: Report of guy with handgun leaving in red car.

Here's some information from the GrrlScientist twitter:

GrrlScientist ‏@GrrlScientist
james holmes moved to Colorado from SD to pursue PhD in neuroscience at UColorado Medical School, left programme in May #theatershooting

GrrlScientist ‏@GrrlScientist
haven't heard any comments about religion/military background but some witnesses said shooter looked like military commando @DjukeVeldhuis

GrrlScientist ‏@GrrlScientist
interview w another witness: "THEY SAID" shooter knocked on emergency exit door & someone let him in #theatershooting

GrrlScientist ‏@GrrlScientist
RT @GMA: Suspect's mother tells @ABC News "You have the right person... I need to call the police... I need to fly out to Colorado.”

GrrlScientist ‏@GrrlScientist
reporting again:someone opened theatre emergency exit door & let the shooter in! #theatershooting who is this person? why did he open door?

What barracuda said. I'm really fucked up over this. I don't attend many sporting or concert events anymore and catch the rare play, so seeing movies are still one of my big mixing with the populous in the dark recreation rituals. I almost went to my local theatre to see the midnight showing of Batman last night so it especially resonates.

Sadly I imagine people will now probably be afraid of copycat occurrences of similar budding psychopaths trying to make statements with other dark ambiguous films in the future and audiences at least in the short term will shrink. Honestly, I'm not sure if I'll see Batman now in theatres now if for no other reason I'll be thinking of Colorado and those poor people the whole time.

Its just really fucking sad and incomprehensible. People in the theatre initially thinking the gumen was a part of the movie feels like the epitaph to so much that has happened since 2000.

brekin wrote:Sadly I imagine people will now probably be afraid of copycat occurrences of similar budding psychopaths trying to make statements with other dark ambiguous films in the future and audiences at least in the short term will shrink. Honestly, I'm not sure if I'll see Batman now in theatres now if for no other reason I'll be thinking of Colorado and those poor people the whole time.

Its just really fucking sad and incomprehensible. People in the theatre initially thinking the gumen was a part of the movie feels like the epitaph to so much that has happened since 2000.

I feel exactly the same, except I actually am afraid of copycats (or organized connections). I'm one of the people you're imagining. I have a feeling of dread right now, that at any moment we're going to hear about a similar horrific crime.

The only reason I am anxious over December 21 is because of people like this, who could want to willfully conjure a catastrophe to fit into their preconceived paranoia or esoteric fear.

actually heard on local radio here in san francisco that someone had linked shooter to what sounded like an anarchist group associated with occupy wall street can't wait to see the right wingers take that and run with it

Moddey Screbbagh wrote:actually heard on local radio here in san francisco that someone had linked shooter to what sounded like an anarchist group associated with occupy wall street can't wait to see the right wingers take that and run with it

Thanks, is this the Minnesota connection I had heard a rumor of?

brekin wrote:People in the theatre initially thinking the gumen was a part of the movie feels like the epitaph to so much that has happened since 2000.

Since 1999, really. Since "Columbine." Yep.

I know its irrelevant, but why were people at midnight screenings of a dark and violent movie with little children? Babies, six year olds? Wtf?

I'm somewhat still in shock about this.

I worked on thiis movie, in a fairly low level way, dayplaying while they were shooting in Los Angeles. It was by far the hugest thing i had ever worked on or even seen. The people making the movie were just massively talented and passionate about their art and craft. They seemed to just be having fun making this movie. Its so sad and sick that something meant to just entertain and enthrall people for a couple of hours could have been used for such a (no words to describe except sick and twisted and demented and ugly) act.

Nordic wrote:I know its irrelevant, but why were people at midnight screenings of a dark and violent movie with little children? Babies, six year olds? Wtf?

I'm somewhat still in shock about this.

I worked on thiis movie, in a fairly low level way, dayplaying while they were shooting in Los Angeles. It was by far the hugest thing i had ever worked on or even seen. The people making the movie were just massively talented and passionate about their art and craft. They seemed to just be having fun making this movie. Its so sad and sick that something meant to just entertain and enthrall people for a couple of hours could have been used for such a (no words to describe except sick and twisted and demented and ugly) act.

I echo your sentiments. It's horrible that something meant for escape could turn so horrific and ugly. I woke up to the news on the tv and was absolutely saddened. Awful, just awful. To quote Aaron Brown, there are no words.

My immediate reaction to seeing the title of this thread was that it must have been yet another stampeding incident.

Somehow, the idea that people would have trampled others to death over a goddamn summer blockbuster is worse to me than what actually happened (which, make no mistake, is completely awful in its own unique way).

What a shame that I've been reduced to such comparative disaster gymnastics in analyzing daily life on this fucking floating rock.

Surely earth must be some sort of hell dimension.