Re: Strange Incident: Man dead in suspected UK terror attack
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 11:40 am
by justdrew
the blood edited out version is obviously a version that has been 'altered' for TV, note the woman walking by with her head all blotted out for privacy. Not very hard to do.
actually looking again...
The bloody hands version looks like the red tin could have been added. and indeed the color of the road markings... hmmm... odd.
anyone find any video not capped from TV yet?
Re: Strange Incident: Man dead in suspected UK terror attack
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 11:41 am
by yathrib
Something something, Islamophobia.
Re: Strange Incident: Man dead in suspected UK terror attack
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 11:59 am
by IanEye
DrEvil wrote:The first video (with blood) looks like it has had it's color balance changed. Look at the markings in the road behind him. They're red in the first clip and yellow in the second. I'm pretty sure they're supposed to be yellow.
fwiw, the lines appear red in this overhead shot as well.
Re: Strange Incident: Man dead in suspected UK terror attack
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:02 pm
by justdrew
this appears to have been the very first video uploaded matching a search "woolwich" ...
no sign yet of any citizen video, but they may not have used woolwich in the title/description, but it's hard to be sure what to search on otherwise.
Re: Strange Incident: Man dead in suspected UK terror attack
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 12:10 pm
by DrEvil
Ah, ok. thanks. Not used to red lines in the road around here
But in that case it should be the second video that has the "wrong" color balance. Would explain why his hands don't look bloody in it.
Re: Strange Incident: Man dead in suspected UK terror attack
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:08 pm
by justdrew
DrEvil wrote:The first video (with blood) looks like it has had it's color balance changed. Look at the markings in the road behind him. They're red in the first clip and yellow in the second. I'm pretty sure they're supposed to be yellow.
I just did a little test and yes, a simple +45degree Hue shift causes the blood to vanish and the street markers to look more yellowish, without much altering the rest of the imagery in the video, except the grass looks a bit more vibrant. It's possible if I spent a few more minutes to apply the hue shift to limited area of the video, so it certainly appears the video was altered to remove the blood.
Re: Strange Incident: Man dead in suspected UK terror attack
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 1:17 pm
by Mask
Just a different hue and saturation in those two videos (blood/no blood).
However:
justdrew wrote:the blood edited out version is obviously a version that has been 'altered' for TV, note the woman walking by with her head all blotted out for privacy. Not very hard to do.
You may be surprised to learn that TV networks routinely engage in such image tweaking to make crime/accident scenes look bloodier if necessary, not less bloody.
Re: Strange Incident: Man dead in suspected UK terror attack
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 3:20 pm
by FourthBase
"Right now it is only you versus many people, you will lose.” - Ingrid Loyau-Kennett
In whatever context, to whomever: Amen.
Re: Strange Incident: Man dead in suspected UK terror attack
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 3:28 pm
by justdrew
the police and public response were amazing. Only a few shots fired, all HIT, suspects not killed, no bystanders hit. Can you imagine the police response in the US? Minimum 100 shots fired 1 bystander hit, both suspects dead.
Re: Strange Incident: Man dead in suspected UK terror attack
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 3:37 pm
by DrEvil
Also, if this was the US, the guy probably wouldn't be wielding knives and a banged up old revolver...
I'm actually continually surprised that stuff like this doesn't happen more often.
It's as if the vast majority of Muslims aren't the blood-crazed monsters we all know they are.
Edit: spelling
Re: Strange Incident: Man dead in suspected UK terror attack
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 5:03 pm
by Canadian_watcher
justdrew wrote:the police and public response were amazing. Only a few shots fired, all HIT, suspects not killed, no bystanders hit. Can you imagine the police response in the US? Minimum 100 shots fired 1 bystander hit, both suspects dead.
and also the news media that I saw didn't stoop to calling the guy a killer outright - they said 'alleged' or 'suspected' or 'supposed' even though the guy was standing there knowingly being recorded, holding a knife, saying he did it, literal blood on his hands with the body across the road from him. That of course is the way its always used to be done even in the US. Remember that? good times...
Re: Strange Incident: Man dead in suspected UK terror attack
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:48 pm
by Rory
For whatever reason, and maybe just because I have read his name here and in other places, this whole occurrence, the action and the reaction, scream 'David Myatt'.
An slaying with possible occult overtones, wrapped up in radicalized Islam, and the baying mobs of reactionary right 'white power' demanding blooded revenge.
All while the ruling elites prepare to gather for their annual occluded jolly, up the road in Bilderford/Watberg and their tame frontmen get to point us away from their social and legislative dismantling of the welfare state: LOOK AT THE SCARY BROWN PEOPLE!
Re: Strange Incident: Man dead in suspected UK terror attack
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 1:29 am
by 8bitagent
justdrew » Thu May 23, 2013 2:28 pm wrote:the police and public response were amazing. Only a few shots fired, all HIT, suspects not killed, no bystanders hit. Can you imagine the police response in the US? Minimum 100 shots fired 1 bystander hit, both suspects dead.
Yes, but look at the Londoners just walking past this psychopath as if he's just another random nut preaching. Like, a guy just got butchered and the butchererr is covered in blood with the implements and they are just acting like nothing is the matter. Its so grotesquely surreal.
More "anti war=islamic radicalism" meme reinforcement, this and the Boston bombing.
Also do you people not realize there is now a hardcore lockstep movement to turn EVERY incident into a "HOAX" conspiracy? These people have one sole mission: To make it so ANY questioning of events is not only seemingly insane, but maddeningly angry inducing and sickening. Ya guys get what Im saying? This isnt misinfo. This is hardcore disinfo to the 9th degree.
Re: Strange Incident: Man dead in suspected UK terror attack
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 1:32 am
by 8bitagent
Rory » Thu May 23, 2013 8:48 pm wrote:For whatever reason, and maybe just because I have read his name here and in other places, this whole occurrence, the action and the reaction, scream 'David Myatt'.
An slaying with possible occult overtones, wrapped up in radicalized Islam, and the baying mobs of reactionary right 'white power' demanding blooded revenge.
All while the ruling elites prepare to gather for their annual occluded jolly, up the road in Bilderford/Watberg and their tame frontmen get to point us away from their social and legislative dismantling of the welfare state: LOOK AT THE SCARY BROWN PEOPLE!
Exactly Rory. I think the savage nature of this attack is actually more permeating on the British psyche than say, if these two individuals had detonated a Boston like IED somewhere in London. 7/7 attacks aren't very possible these days, meaning people would ask how that could happen since London is beyond big brother. So something much more simple yet savage had to be devised. A literal blood sacrifice in the middle of the road.
I mean even if it turns out to be the work of two wackjob "Islamists", that's literally what this was.
Re: Strange Incident: Man dead in suspected UK terror attack
justdrew » Thu May 23, 2013 2:28 pm wrote:the police and public response were amazing. Only a few shots fired, all HIT, suspects not killed, no bystanders hit. Can you imagine the police response in the US? Minimum 100 shots fired 1 bystander hit, both suspects dead.
Yes, but look at the Londoners just walking past this psychopath as if he's just another random nut preaching. Like, a guy just got butchered and the butchererr is covered in blood with the implements and they are just acting like nothing is the matter. Its so grotesquely surreal.
More "anti war=islamic radicalism" meme reinforcement, this and the Boston bombing.
Also do you people not realize there is now a hardcore lockstep movement to turn EVERY incident into a "HOAX" conspiracy? These people have one sole mission: To make it so ANY questioning of events is not only seemingly insane, but maddeningly angry inducing and sickening. Ya guys get what Im saying? This isnt misinfo. This is hardcore disinfo to the 9th degree.
uh yeah. Spotted it at the hook man.
but there was some of it around batman too, but not of this type. It MAY be simply a matter of people thinking this is a road to micro-celebrity and lemminging along, but it can't be ruled out as being part of the Cognitive Infiltration strategy of disruption, could be executed by some potentially quite small group, or all the way to the top, keeping in mind the copycat vlog-sluths are free and act as cammo.