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Re: Does anyone else feel something BIG will happen this spr
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:01 pm
by 82_28
Like for example:
GOP senators blast Trump's tariffs announcement
Washington (CNN)Republican senators are not too happy with the White House right now.
After President Donald Trump said Thursday that his administration will impose tariffs on steel and aluminum imports next week, GOP senators spoke out about their fear of retaliation from other countries and the lack of communication from the White House.
Sen. Ben Sasse, who's been a frequent critic Trump, slammed the tariffs decision as something Americans would expect from a "leftist administration," not a Republican commander in chief.
"Let's be clear: The President is proposing a massive tax increase on American families. Protectionism is weak, not strong," he said in a statement. "You'd expect a policy this bad from a leftist administration, not a supposedly Republican one."
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/01/politics ... index.html
Taken with yesterday's suggestions that dump wants some pretty serious gun control legislation that pissed off the right as well -- what the fuck is dump up to?
Re: Does anyone else feel something BIG will happen this spr
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:03 pm
by JackRiddler
82_28 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:01 pm wrote:Taken with yesterday's suggestions that dump wants some pretty serious gun control legislation that pissed off the right as well -- what the fuck is dump up to?
Implicit assumption here, may be false.
Re: Does anyone else feel something BIG will happen this spr
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:27 pm
by 82_28
Did you check out comments and shit at breitbart or anything yesterday? For the most part they're pissed and/or feeling betrayed with his new "gun tune". So, it wasn't implicit.
Re: Does anyone else feel something BIG will happen this spr
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:36 pm
by norton ash
He needs to back off on the tariffs. US industry buys more steel than it makes, they don't want this.
Re: Does anyone else feel something BIG will happen this spr
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:57 pm
by SonicG
The stock market is voicing strong disapproval about the tariffs...Is Trump just going to flagpole everything with Wall Street?
I doubt the admin. will do anything on guns. Trump is rudderless for many reasons and gives lip service but will ultimately say, "oh, congress dropped the ball...hmmm uhmmmm"...I saw something the other day that the admin. is now regretting not jumping into the TPP. NAFTA is doomed because the Wall is an obvious sticking point and Kushner is point man on Mexico. Hilarious. Mexican cannot loan him money. He has no interest in that "shithole"...and so Mexico will look elsewhere for agricultural products.
Something big? War on Iran? War on Venezuela? Don't wake Tillerson from his nap...
Re: Does anyone else feel something BIG will happen this spr
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:24 pm
by stillrobertpaulsen
So the GOP is shocked, shocked I say, that Trump wants to enact tariffs?
Are they trying to gaslight the world?! Wasn't the friggin centerpiece of his economic agenda during the campaign about how China is fucking us over in trade and that tariffs were the solution?! Or am I imagining this?!

Re: Does anyone else feel something BIG will happen this spr
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:35 pm
by norton ash
Canada's pissed. We're Amurrica's top steel supplier, not China.
Re: Does anyone else feel something BIG will happen this spr
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:37 pm
by stillrobertpaulsen
Yeah, Canada should be pissed. The world should be pissed. The GOP should acknowledge they created this and they meant to.
But they won't!
Re: Does anyone else feel something BIG will happen this spr
Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:55 pm
by seemslikeadream
THE TRADE WAR IS HERE: Trump sets off a chain reaction with massive tariff announcements as countries vow to retaliate
http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-ta ... ?r=UK&IR=T
U.S. Trade Partners Threatening Retaliation If Proposed Tariffs Go Through
https://www.npr.org/2018/02/20/58737573 ... go-through
China threatens to retaliate against US metals tariffs
https://www.ft.com/content/07946634-146 ... 6390addb44
we have a war.....we have a distraction.......and this
brilliant trump move could push the world somewhere
tariff announcement wiped out stock market year's gains
who's in aluminum, and for our purposes, it's Deripaska and Prince.
Seth Abramson
1/ This is just a note to say Erik Prince a) is known to secretly lobby Trump, b) is a Trump "shadow advisor," c) had a secret Russia meeting on Trump's behalf, d) is a Russia-probe witness, e) said the following to Congress (apropos of Trump's sudden, bizarre aluminum tariff):
9:43 PM - 1 Mar 2018
2/ Is there a connection? Who knows. But I thought someone should register this. Prince says he talked aluminum on his secret trip to the UAE; the UAE is one of four nations that plotted to exploit Kushner. If you dealt in bauxite, and knew Trump's tariff was coming beforehand...
3/ I'm activated by the new tariffs because Trump is "going rogue"—taking an action no one is publicly advising, so you begin to ask who advises him privately, who could benefit from insider trading (as it were), who's in aluminum, and for our purposes, it's Deripaska and Prince.
4/ Given Trump has implied Manafort can take him down (per NBC), Manafort owes Deripaska money, theoretically Deripaska is dangerous to Trump, Manafort offered insider Trump info to Deripaska during the campaign—well, you can see why I say someone must at least register all this.
5/ Russia and the UAE are two of the three largest aluminum importers to the U.S., so this hurts them. That said, I don't doubt that if you're a Russian aluminum magnate or a bauxite-slinger you could turn foreknowledge of the timing of this sudden announcement to your *benefit*.
6/ Prince admits he talked aluminum with the UAE on a secret trip to the Seychelles during which we know he was acting as a Trump envoy—on the same trip he met an RDIF Russian who naturally would've wanted to talk aluminum with Prince also. Now we have a surprise aluminum tariff.
7/ These events may be unconnected, but I at least hope that some investigator somewhere is seeing these connections and at least considering how the Trump-Russia investigation could extend to unusual policy decisions made by a president with a lot of potential enemies right now.
8/ The news the UAE—interested in talking aluminum with a Trump envoy/advisor as part of setting up and hosting a secret Trump-Russia meetup—plotted and acted to exploit Kushner's weaknesses (and Kushner himself had a clandestine meeting with Putin's banker) adds a new dimension.
9/ The other thing to note is even if you look at it from a different view—and say instead anyone could've known this was coming because Trump discussed it on the campaign—you'll note that the aluminum tariff that hurts Russian aluminum magnates is a fraction of the steel tariff.
10/ Is it worth investigating if the UAE used brokering a secret Trump-Russia meeting as a chance to lobby Trump for a lower aluminum tariff—or that Russia so lobbied—in advance of Trump inevitably (in this view) announcing new tariffs on aluminum and steel? Yes, it sure is. /end
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status ... 7360939008
trump can fight trade wars and take on Alec Baldwin at the same time. Truly amazing.

Re: Does anyone else feel something BIG will happen this spr
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:07 am
by SonicG
Don't worry folks, trade wars aren't messy...spring comes early with global warming...rumours of Javanka on the way out, as well as McMasters...Kelly seems ready to swallow his service revolver...How long before Trump goes full MacBeth?
Re: Does anyone else feel something BIG will happen this spr
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:10 pm
by minime
Surprise! Surprise! Another Donald Trump thread! If not by design, but in fact.
Whatever BIG that happens this Spring will likely have nothing to do with Trump, and will pass without comment here at RI, as you will be paying attention to all the wrong things, without a clue.
Same as it ever was.
Re: Does anyone else feel something BIG will happen this spr
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:10 pm
by seemslikeadream
trump's good friend Ican dumped steel stocks last week
Farm Leaders React with Fear and Horror at Steel, Aluminum Tariffs
https://www.dtnpf.com/agriculture/web/a ... rror-steel
Re: Does anyone else feel something BIG will happen this spr
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:11 pm
by minime
As I was saying...
Re: Does anyone else feel something BIG will happen this spr
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:14 pm
by seemslikeadream
Canada are you listening to minime?
DACA are you listening?
Climate Deniers are you listening?
trump signs permit for builder TransCanada to build Keystone XL pipeline?
trump revokes guidelines allowing transgender students to use bathrooms of their choice?
Russian Mafia are you listening?.....you're not getting your money back
yes the "leader" of the free world has nothing to do with what happens in the world
100+ FELONY CHARGES so far
guilty pleas from 19 people and three companies so far
but I repeat myself ...nothing to see here
Re: Does anyone else feel something BIG will happen this spr
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:47 pm
by stillrobertpaulsen
minime » Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:10 am wrote:Surprise! Surprise! Another Donald Trump thread! If not by design, but in fact.
Whatever BIG that happens this Spring will likely have nothing to do with Trump, and will pass without comment here at RI, as you will be paying attention to all the wrong things, without a clue.
Same as it ever was.
That's reality, pal. Until he is either removed from office, imprisoned, or both, Donald Trump - across all spectra of media mainstream, independent, et al. - is the Borg. It should go without saying, but I'll say it anyway: Resistance. Is.
futile.......
But hey, far be it from me to stop you from shooting the messenger!