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Re: OMAR vs. AIPAC/ISRAEL LOBBY

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 7:18 pm
by Belligerent Savant
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Cross-post:

[other Omar-related content can be shared here as well -- the mods will be changing the title of the OP when their time allows]

RocketMan » Mon Mar 04, 2019 4:21 pm wrote:House Dems to vote on resolution in response to Omar's latest Israel remarks

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4325 ... el-remarks
The House will vote Wednesday on a resolution condemning anti-Semitism in response to freshman Rep. Ilhan Omar's (D-Minn.) latest controversial comments about the U.S.-Israel relationship, a senior Democratic aide said Monday.

Omar has come under fire for saying at a Washington bookstore forum last week that pro-Israel advocates are pushing "allegiance to a foreign country."

Staffs from the offices of Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.), Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.) and Rep. Ted Deutch (D-Fla.) worked on the resolution over the weekend.
Well, matters have been brought to a head. Unconscionable. These fucking gerontocrats.

Well, if AOC fails to condemn this, that's it for her.

Re: Rep. Ilhan Omar

Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:56 pm
by Karmamatterz
providing the younger demographic with a vicarious means to feel and express indignation without having to actually, you know, do anything.
Yes! Yippee! We've got someone in Congress who talks like we do and they will change everything!

Makes all the keyboard activists feels better.

Re: Rep. Ilhan Omar

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:09 am
by RocketMan
AOC just tweeted a bunch of thin gruel in extremely weak and hedging defence of Ilhan Omar. Bleargh.

Re: Rep. Ilhan Omar

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:08 pm
by RocketMan
Yep... Power to Ilhan!

Re: Rep. Ilhan Omar

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:25 pm
by Grizzly
https://twitter.com/RashaMK/status/1102801481177149440
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I think we have a true rebel, here... Dynamite in a small package. Crosses fingers.

Re: Rep. Ilhan Omar

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:39 pm
by RocketMan
Yep. Still smarting over AOC's flapping her mouth about the finer points of "calling out" and "calling in". BAH.

Ilhan Omar is pretty fearless, that's for sure. I think it is beyond contemptible for the Dem establishment to pull this bullshit. WHY IS NANCY PELOSI STILL THERE?

Re: Rep. Ilhan Omar

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:12 pm
by RocketMan
I'm sorry about my blooming Twitter obsession, I just started being active there. :lol:

I've always believed it's way cool to get into popular things a ridiculously long time after they became popular.... Anyway, this journalist Johnson guy pretty well boils down what irks me about AOC's stance.

Re: Rep. Ilhan Omar

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:33 pm
by Belligerent Savant
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AOC is displaying the tactics of a would-be political operator (though again, this is another instance of facile perspectives on an important topic, similar to her disappointing response thus far Re: Venezuela); Omar, on the other hand, is displaying integrity and courage.

We'll see, eventually, if these patterns turn out to be anomalous or part of standard practice for each of these up-and-coming reps.

Re: Rep. Ilhan Omar

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 12:19 am
by Grizzly
I'm calling it now, I highly suspect some kind of black ops incident and Omar to be the patsy. Where many will die and the war flood gates open wide!

Re: Rep. Ilhan Omar

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2019 2:41 pm
by JackRiddler
Yes, this Rasha is strong, like Ilhan. But note:
Rasha @RashaMK Palestinian Muslim American— Reviving the Creed of Justice Equality Empowerment— Civil Rights/Movement Activist | Political Strategist @electyoungdems President
Even if you think it misguided, you'd think honest people might have their reasons for wanting to do that.

Re: Rep. Ilhan Omar

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:23 am
by Grizzly
https://imgur.com/TKPjDDG
There it is. Bernie is standing up for Ilhan Omar.

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Your move AOC..

Re: Rep. Ilhan Omar

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:21 am
by JackRiddler
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Her move? Sure. Can we not lose sight of context and proportions? A lot of moves are happening. How one or another chosen avatar responds to a moral question, whether one politician who's been designated "our" symbol hits it on the nose can't be the most important issue.

This is also happening:

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Re: Rep. Ilhan Omar

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:37 am
by RocketMan
Omar has raised the black flag! :lol2: :lol2:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... rty-225696
As she saw it, the party ostensibly committed to progressive values had become complicit in perpetuating the status quo. Omar says the “hope and change” offered by Barack Obama was a mirage. Recalling the “caging of kids” at the U.S.-Mexico border and the “droning of countries around the world” on Obama’s watch, she argues that the Democratic president operated within the same fundamentally broken framework as his Republican successor.

We can’t be only upset with Trump. … His policies are bad, but many of the people who came before him also had really bad policies. They just were more polished than he was,” Omar says. “And that’s not what we should be looking for anymore. We don’t want anybody to get away with murder because they are polished. We want to recognize the actual policies that are behind the pretty face and the smile.”

Re: Rep. Ilhan Omar

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:17 pm
by Belligerent Savant
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Damn. Impressive.

This is beyond mere "optics" .

I feel compelled to volunteer as her bodyguard..

She's challenging my inherently cynical views; it'll be interesting to see where this goes.

Re: Rep. Ilhan Omar

Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 9:03 am
by Cordelia
So far, I really like what what I've heard from/of her. If her official bios are accurate, after fleeing Somalia, her family spent four years in a Kenyan refugee camp before coming to America and English is her second language.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0de4rPfNcQ,