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Nordic wrote:Yeah, I don't think there's a real Return On Investment for the Powers That Be with this particular bit of ugliness.

To do something like this is a Big Deal (provided it's a false flag psyops event). So why have it be so small and why have it be so relatively inconsequential?

If they just wanted to kill the guy and cover up what he was working on, there are many easier ways to "suicide" somebody, less risk to them, etc. Just look at all the dead microbiologists. And Gary Webb and people like that.

But nothing would surprise me.

the final Little House on the Prairie movie, the Last Farewell. Basically a railroad company shows up in Walnut Grove claiming they own the land the whole town (and outlying farms) is built on. They were never supposed to have been allowed to build there and now they want everyone to pick up their stuff and clear out. The same is true of several nearby towns and the railroad wants to clear them all out.

The railroad company is portrayed as supergreedy and eager to take over all the houses and farms and the buildings in town. The townspeople all get together and decide that while the railroad company may own the land, they (townspeaple) built and own the buildings and they're not giving them up. So they blow up the whole town.

Of course, seeing them do this all the other towns vow to do the same and the railroad caves and promises not to take over the other towns.

Maybe this guy saw that movie, too!

Howling Rainbows wrote:To do something like this is a Big Deal (provided it's a false flag psyops event). So why have it be so small and why have it be so relatively inconsequential?


I tend to agree, even though I have contributed things to this thread that might make it seem otherwise. If this was false flag, I would assume that the circus around the event would be bigger. I have not been watching mainstream news for the last couple of days though, so the circus may be larger than I know. I don't feel it though. It does not seem like the bang for the buck is in this scenario, at least not yet as far as I can tell.

JackRiddler wrote:The power of the US state rests on two remaining pillars: the ability to project military force and control around the world (declining), and that to raise taxes from what is still the richest base in the world.

A trusted source has told this office that the FBI knew Austin was going to be attacked today and had dispatched officers from its Dallas headquarters yesterday afternoon to be in place for today’s incident.

The source claims that a confidential memo was circulated yesterday detailing that a building in Austin was going to be the target of an attack today. He was told this by an informant who works in the Dallas FBI office.

Four FBI agents hurriedly left the Dallas office yesterday to be ready and on the scene for the aftermath of the incident, according to the informant, who was shaken when he saw events unfolding today and put two and two together.

We cannot confirm the accuracy of the claim but the source is known to us and has no motivation for inventing the story.

The fact that pilot Joe Stack changed his manifesto at least 27 times before the final version suggests that he had been writing it for days, "revising it 27 times", and this could have been what tipped off the FBI in the build up to the attack.

The claim dovetails with reports we are receiving from Austin residents that the FBI were immediately on the scene after the plane crash and were filming both the building and eyewitnesses

A separate witness told KXAN News that there were Hazmat teams and fire trucks in place across the street before the plane struck the building..."

Mr. Stack met Mr. Cook’s stepdaughter, the former Sheryl Housh, through musician friends in Austin. After eight months of friendship, they dated and married about three years ago. Both had been previously married.

Mrs. Stack, 50, listed in records at the University of Texas as a graduate student in music performance, brought her own back story to the marriage, having spent several years in the sway of a religious cult before her parents orchestrated a rescue.

On visits to Oklahoma, Mr. Stack took his new in-laws up in his plane. He never spoke of his troubles with the I.R.S., though his wife related them. The family assembled in Austin at Christmas, and Mr. Stack seemed fine, Mr. Cook said.

But in recent weeks Mrs. Stack complained to her parents of an increasingly frightening anger in her husband, straining the marriage, Mr. Cook said. On Wednesday night, Mrs. Stack took her 12-year-old daughter, Margaux, to a hotel to get away from her husband.

They returned on Thursday morning to find their house ablaze, their belongings destroyed. Officials said the house fire was deliberately set, casting Mr. Stack as the primary suspect. But by that point he was gone, airborne.

“This is a shock to me that he would do something like this,” Mr. Cook said. “But you get your anger up, you do it.”

Attack on IRS part of long line of tax protesters
Associated Press Writer Stephen Ohlemacher
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_plane_cra ... protesters

WASHINGTON – Joseph Stack's methods were unthinkable — he is accused of ramming a plane into an Internal Revenue Service building in Texas — but his views on taxation follow a long line of protesters who believe tax laws don't apply to them.

While their numbers aren't large, according to experts, their arguments are so enticing that the IRS has published a guide to debunk their claims. In 2008, the Justice Department was concerned enough to start the "National Tax Defier Initiative" to better coordinate prosecutions.

"You would think a little light bulb would go on in their head and they would say, 'Why in the heck is everybody else paying taxes?'" said Peter R. Zeidenberg, a former federal prosecutor who is now a litigation partner at the law firm DLA Piper in Washington. "There are people who are peddling this stuff. It's a way to get people to believe something that's too good to be true."

A 3,000-word manifesto posted on a Web site registered in Stack's name rails against the IRS and accuses the agency of ruining his life. Stack's bitter feud with the IRS apparently drove him to commit suicide Thursday by slamming his single-engine Piper PA-28 into an Austin office building where the IRS has offices.

Stack's writings suggest he was part of a loosely organized movement that stretches back to at least the 1950s. Some believe the 16th Amendment to the Constitution, which authorizes Congress to levy income taxes, was not legally ratified; it was ratified in 1913.

Others believe that paying taxes is purely voluntary. Still others believe in fictional loopholes that would exempt large groups of Americans from paying taxes if they were only in on the secret.

Believers aren't limited to anti-government militia members living off the land out West. Stack was a 53-year-old software engineer in Austin. Other followers include movie star Wesley Snipes and a decorated police detective in the nation's capital.

"They're fairly prevalent," said Mark Potok, director of the Intelligence Project for the Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks extremist groups. "We've had a right wing tax protest movement going back several decades now. They were very hot in the 1990s, but they are very much still out there."

The center has documented five plots against the IRS or its agents since 1995, including one that year to blow up an IRS office in Austin. Potok said he was unsure if it was the same building Stack crashed the plane into.

In 2006, a Utah man was accused of threatening IRS employees with "death by firing squad" if they continued to try to collect taxes from him and his wife. The man, David D'Addabbo, pleaded guilty to one charge of threatening a government agent and was sentenced to five months already served.

Not all tax protesters resort to violence.

Snipes, star of the "Blade" trilogy and other films, was convicted on tax charges and sentenced to three years in prison in 2008 after claiming that Americans have no obligation to pay taxes and the IRS cannot legally collect them. The detective in Washington, D.C., Michael Irving, got a 14-month prison sentence last year after prosecutors said he fraudulently arranged for the police department to stop withholding taxes from his paychecks.

"Most of us are respectfully fearful of the IRS. Most people understand their authority," said Matthew J. Campione, a former IRS lawyer who is now a tax law specialist at the law firm of SmolenPlevy in Vienna, Va. "But you have people who are gullible, you have people who engage in wishful thinking, you have some people who are struggling to make ends meet."

In the letter on Stack's Web site, which has since been removed, Stack said he had gone to "tax code readings and discussions" where he learned about "wonderful 'exemptions' that make institutions like the vulgar, corrupt Catholic Church so incredibly wealthy." He said an attempt to claim similar exemptions inevitably cost him $40,000 and "10 years of my life."

He also complained about a 1986 change in the tax law that made it harder for engineers like himself to claim certain deductions as independent contractors, rather than salaried employees. One year, Stack wrote, he didn't file a tax return, "thinking that because I didn't have any income there was no need. The sleazy government decided that they disagreed."

The head of the union representing IRS workers said federal employees are too often targeted with threats or violence for simply doing their jobs.

"This incident brings to light an ongoing concern that the atmosphere in our nation debases and denigrates the work of federal employees and contributes to such actions," said Colleen M. Kelley, president of the National Treasury Employees Union. "Too often, frustration with policies or politics takes the form of attacks on public servants, which is never justified and can contribute to misguided rage against federal workers."

The IRS has a Web site called, "Don't Fall for These Frivolous Arguments." Among them are:

_False claim: The filing and paying of tax is voluntary. IRS response: "The term voluntary compliance means that each of us is responsible for filing a tax return when required and for determining and paying the correct amount of tax."

_False claim: Wages, tips, and other compensation are not income because there is no taxable gain when a person "exchanges" labor for money. IRS response: "Congress has determined that all income is taxable unless specifically excluded by some part of the Code."

_False claim: Forming a business trust to hold your income and assets will avoid taxes. A family estate trust will allow you to reduce or eliminate your tax liability. IRS response: "Establishing a trust, foreign or domestic, for the sole purpose of hiding your income and assets from taxation is illegal and will not absolve you of your tax liability."

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SanDiegoBuffGuy wrote:Personally, I'm open to it, not sold on it.

Ditto. I'm sold on the possibility of being sold on it.

Belligerent Savant wrote:Kurt Nimmo. Wow -- haven't heard that name in a while.. I recall reading his staff back in the early 2000's at Counterpunch [back when I read that on a semi-regular basis]...

He had his share of salient -- though sometimes [or was it oftentimes?] hyperbolic -- articles..

I agree that at this point there's nothing definitive -- yet -- that points directly to psyop, but then again, that's typically the M.O. for psyops; it's a rare event indeed when any rigorous investigator[s] can confidently put together any given series of events to form a cohesive layout, exposing the scheme for all to see....