Re: Exclusive Stein just called Green Party filing for recou
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:21 pm
Maybe. But I think another part of that problem of largeness is not just in regard to overpopulation but national ego. You know, the bullshit propaganda that the US is so 'exceptional' that our elections couldn't possibly be compromised in this oldest democracy on the planet, and if some aspect were to be called into question, we can handle it ourselves. Having the UN monitor the possibility of electoral fraud? That's for other countries not as exceptional as we are!Morty » Wed Dec 28, 2016 6:13 pm wrote:Maybe a nation of 300+ million people is simply incapable of holding fair elections? Maybe once you get that many people, you can't control what goes on and no group large enough or strong enough is capable of being formed to redress the irregularities?
Morty, what country are you from? I might consider moving there in the future if the creeping fascism in the USA becomes more intense and entrenched. I'm kidding. I think.Morty » Wed Dec 28, 2016 6:13 pm wrote:Maybe the ethos in the USA is too anti-government for fair elections to be possible? Where I'm from, having a stated political persuasion one way or another is a serious hindrance/disqualifies you from becoming a judge of any sort. This in order to maintain at least the pretense of a lack of bias in decision making. In the USA, having a political persuasion seems to be a prerequisite to becoming a judge. How can you have an uncorrupted society when even your judiciary doesn't have a long-standing culture of attempting to arrive at decisions in an unbiased, non-partisan manner?
The tragedy isn't that the Republicans are going to be able to stack the supreme court with conservative judges for the next generation, the tragedy is that the US has a system where benches are able to be stacked with partisan judges in the first place.
So yeah, same thing will be happening in 4 years time no doubt.
Seriously, as far as judicial impartiality goes, while I do think that the partisan and ideological aspects have debased that branch of our government to the point I think lifetime appointments should be abolished, there is a deeper problem that goes beyond partisan or ideological concerns to the real tragedy: our judiciary is stacked to reflect the concerns of private corporate interests frequently at odds with public interests.
Perhaps this has been endemic within our culture since its inception, but on a judiciary level I believe it has been entrenched since at least 1886 when the Supreme Court ruled that corporations are people. And it continues regardless of who is President, Obama's selections were really no better than Bush or any other Republican where vested interests are concerned. As long as civilization continues to have an economic and monetary system predicated on infinite growth on a finite planet, this is the fate we're stuck with. And when I write we're stuck with, I am not limiting that to the citizens of the USA; globalization will see that once the limits of that unsustainable system have been reached, anyone stuck in the so-called 'civilized world' will be affected.