Who Parked The Moon?

[slimmouse]

Im a numbers man myself. Numerical patterns convey symmetry. For such an accident of nature, as modern science would have us believe, everything within either ourselves, or our solar system, or the entire fucking universe appears so freakily symmetrical .....innit.


No aliens neccesary.

[Rory]

I read this recently in the book below:

Did NASA Sabotage Its Own Space Capsule?
From NASA Mooned America!
by Rene



(continues)

This reads like Dave McGowan's work on the Apollo missions. The space radiation, the static electrical charge on the moon, and the minor detail that all of the original records, materials, and recordings were "lost", tells me the whole thing was a big old PR stunt, with no actual manned missions to the moon.

[Iamwhomiam]

"For such an accident of nature, as modern science would have us believe, ..."

umm... There are no accidents in nature, slim. Perhaps you'll explain what you are referring to as "an accident of nature"? Modern science seems to raise more questions about "reality" than it is capable of answering.

Being a "numbers guy" you seem to me to be stuck in Classical Physics.

By the way, nothing is real. Just ask a physicist. They'll update you with the latest vibe rattling the uni.

Or you could have a conversation with a Buddhist monk about their view of "Reality."

Edited to add punctuation and last sentence.

[slimmouse]

"For such an accident of nature, as modern science would have us believe, ..."

umm... There are no accidents in nature, slim. Perhaps you'll explain what you are referring to as "an accident of nature"? Modern science seems to raise more questions about "reality" than it is capable of answering.

Sorry for any misunderstanding. Of course there are no accidents in nature, certainly not in my book at least. For I too, like Einstein am convinced that she doesnt play dice. The cosmological constant tells us all we really need to know about that.

But of course a picture says it much better than my words ever could.




Imagine what a waste that would be, were we humans not here, armed with sufficient sentience to understand it.

[LolaB]

^^^ "There are no limits to science. There's only limited budgets." quote unknown

[Iamwhomiam]

Excellent response, at least for this poster, slim!

The Moon's position in relationship to the Earth and of both to the Sun is beyond coincidence. The odds of such positions randomly being ordered is so great as to be far beyond chance, hence this thread's title.

We know the cosmic constant, the speed of light, the speed of a photon is the fastest anything can travel. But we also know that the closer we approach to this limit, the slower time progresses. At the speed of light, the photon quanta (particle) would in fact be stationary. And therefore time cannot exist.

You figure that one out; I can barely grasp the concept. Spooky Action at a distance.

[justdrew]

Excellent response, at least for this poster, slim!

The Moon's position in relationship to the Earth and of both to the Sun is beyond coincidence. The odds of such positions randomly being ordered is so great as to be far beyond chance, hence this thread's title.

We know the cosmic constant, the speed of light, the speed of a photon is the fastest anything can travel. But we also know that the closer we approach to this limit, the slower time progresses. At the speed of light, the photon quanta (particle) would in fact be stationary. And therefore time cannot exist.

You figure that one out; I can barely grasp the concept. Spooky Action at a distance.

I'm recommending this author to all the "Dick heads" out there, particularly this one for starters...

While being killed and raised from the dead, he recalls that he and all other participants in the life-force of the cosmos created the universe as a game, and became bound to it, and to its tragedies, due to their psychological limitations: greed creates time...

[Iamwhomiam]

Can't wait until Valence Drive becomes the norm.

Thanks Drew, I'll check it out even though I do not believe time travel is possible, at least in this universe. Any attempt to achieve this, I believe, will result with your being deposited in a parallel universe with no possible return to that of your origin.

[justdrew]

Can't wait until Valence Drive becomes the norm.

Thanks Drew, I'll check it out even though I do not believe time travel is possible, at least in this universe. Any attempt to achieve this, I believe, will result with your being deposited in a parallel universe with no possible return to that of your origin.

eh, who knows? The universe is mental as anything

[Iamwhomiam]

So true!

Some time ago I posted some info about a brilliant fellow I met with 60+ patents to his credit. He stated he could not discuss many of his inventions, which taunted me into discovery mode and immediately after our luncheon had ended I returned home to begin my search to learn more about this mysterious man's work.

Although I cannot now locate it online, if I correctly recall, one of his inventions I found was a psycho-mechanical interface for piloting a certain sort of aircraft. Sounds a little like something one might find in Area 51. There's an immense volume of top secret research going on we'll probably never catch wind of.

[backtoiam]

I'm recommending this author to all the "Dick heads" out there, particularly this one for starters...

When I tell my mother you called me a Dick Head she will probably be looking for you.

Some time ago I posted some info about a brilliant fellow I met with 60+ patents to his credit. He stated he could not discuss many of his inventions, which taunted me into discovery mode and immediately after our luncheon had ended I returned home to begin my search to learn more about this mysterious man's work.

That tedious tid bit is so unfair that it borders on abuse to an inquiring curious mind. You could at least throw us a crumb from that cracker, or a little bread trail for further investigation.

[smoking since 1879]

Re time dilation...

My twin zooms off in a rocket and i sit here.
Conventional wisdom has it that I age at the normal rate and he ages slower.

However, from his reference frame, he is stationary and I am moving, so I should age slower than him.

what gives?

[coffin_dodger]

what gives?

We live on a surface that is spinning, on a planet that is speeding around an elliptical orbit of the sun, in a solar system that is speeding through the galaxy, which in turn is moving through the space beyond at some incredible speed, the whole of which is expanding.

Stationary we ain't. We live an existance of motion.

[smoking since 1879]

yeah, that's rather my point too
relativity is full of holes

[DrEvil]

Re time dilation...

My twin zooms off in a rocket and i sit here.
Conventional wisdom has it that I age at the normal rate and he ages slower.

However, from his reference frame, he is stationary and I am moving, so I should age slower than him.

what gives?

By this logic, if I get in a car and drive away from you, I'm stationary and you're disappearing over the horizon at 50 mph while standing still (from my reference frame).

So, for your example: from his reference frame he is moving and you're stationary, relative to both your surroundings, so he should still age slower than you. This has been tested and verified with atomic clocks in orbit. Astronauts really do age slower than us Earth-bound apes.