Took me 3 days but I just now finally finished reading all 156 pages of this rope so far...WISH I'd been more academic and taken notes of names, dates, links etc.
So many spooks, semi, suspected, or ex? spooks in the unfolding story! Let's see, there's Graham Fuller, his daughter, Uncle Tsarni, the other uncle who lives in Silver Spring, Md ( Alvi?). Then there's the guy who supposedly interviewed the Chinese student who says he was abducted, Dzhokhar's school mentor that claims to have had emails back and forth with him, John who contributed the marker note-on-the boat story to say nothing about the murky at best Chechen support groups, oil in the region affiliates, CIA watch list fellas, FBI list fellas, the Russian counterparts but but but I'm supposed to believe that these 2 brothers acted alone? I'd like a list of every USA government official and/or journalist who has incriminated them so far, that has conveniently forgotten the word ' alleged' or 'suspected' when referring to them.
Somewhere way way back at the beginning of this read there was a reference to a neighbor of the Cambridge Tsarnaev's that stated she believed the family received some financial support from their uncle in Md., she didn't say which uncle of the 2 uncles that live in Md...Uncle Tsarni said he'd been outta touch with his bro's family for sometime which made me curious about this article;
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/t ... 90880.html
Tsarnaevs' cousin avoids the spotlight
By: Josh Gerstein
May 3, 2013 05:02 AM EDT
Virtually every relative of the two brothers accused in the Boston Marathon bombing has grabbed a share of the spotlight in the two weeks since the pair was identified — but one young man who spent several years living with the Tsarnaev family in their Cambridge, Mass. apartment and attended school with the younger suspect has largely avoided notice.
The authorities have not identified the alleged bombers’ cousin, Husein Tsarni, 21, as having any connection to the April 15 attacks. And it’s unclear when Tsarni last had contact with Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, who was killed in a violent encounter with police last month in Watertown, Mass., or with Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, who is facing a federal charge of using a weapon of mass destruction.
However, experts said both FBI investigators and Dzhokhar’s defense — facing the prospect of a capital case against the younger Tsarnaev — would likely be eager to talk with Tsarni, particularly about the relationship between the two brothers.
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“The defense will be interested in talking to anybody who had any significant connection with their client, particularly someone who lived in the home and observed the family dynamics and may himself have been influenced by them, most definitely,” said Sean O’Brien, director of the University of Missouri-Kansas City law school’s death penalty clinic.
Federal prosecutors have not yet indicated whether they will seek the death penalty against Dzhokhar.
In an interview with POLITICO this week, Ruslan Tsarni — the Tsarnaev brothers’ uncle whose rant calling them “losers” went viral on TV and the web — called Husein his “adopted son” and confirmed that the young man lived with the Cambridge family from 2006 to 2009.
“He’s my sister’s son. I adopted him,” Ruslan Tsarni said. He said his sister gave Husein up in Russia in the mid 1990s after her husband — the boy’s father — went missing during the intense fighting in Chechnya known as the First Chechen War.
Husein spent roughly a decade in the U.S. before leaving for Russia about two years ago, where he now lives, Ruslan Tsarni said. He did not respond to e-mail messages sent through his Facebook account seeking comment for this story.
Husein Tsarni’s name appears in public Cambridge census records as a resident of the Tsarnaev family apartment from 2008 until this year. It’s not clear who filled out the census forms, which still show Tsarnaev sisters Ailina and Bella and both parents, even though they moved away some time ago.
Husein Tsarni attended Cambridge Rindge and Latin School — the high school both Tsarnaev brothers graduated from — between 2006 and 2009, Cambridge Public Schools Superintendent Jeffrey Young confirmed to POLITICO. Husein and Dzhokhar were enrolled at the same highly respected, public high school during at least one school year, school records show, though Husein was about two years older.
“Dzhokhar was his buddy,” Ruslan Tsarni said.
A law enforcement official who asked not to be named told POLITICO that the FBI was “aware” of Husein. However, the official would not say whether investigators had spoken to him.
A defense lawyer working on the case, Miriam Conrad, did not respond to an e-mail seeking comment for this story.
Ruslan Tsarni said Monday that he he did not believe that Husein had yet been contacted by investigators in the bombing case, because Husein would have let him know.
It’s unclear what strategy Dzhokhar Tsarnaev’s defense lawyers plan to pursue, but one way to try to help him escape the death penalty may be to argue that Tamerlan used his influence over his younger brother to entice him into criminal acts that he would not have committed otherwise.
Many of Dzhokhar’s friends have already made such arguments publicly, as has Boston Mayor Thomas Menino.
“I think the older brother was really the leader, and the younger brother was…brainwashed by his brother, and he just was a follower,” Menino said on ABC’s “This Week” last month. “The brother…read those magazines that were published on how to create bombs, how to disrupt the general public, and things like that. And he brainwashed his younger brother into, from there, what happened on marathon day.”
Under federal law, whether a defendant acted “under unusual and substantial duress” or had an “impaired” ability to understand the wrongfulness of his actions are factors that can mitigate against the death penalty. Juries are also instructed to consider “other factors in the defendant’s background, record, or character or any other circumstance of the offense.”
Of course, the case may never reach a jury. If defense lawyers come up with enough mitigating evidence, they could persuade prosecutors not to seek the death penalty or to enter into a deal where Dzhokhar pleads guilty to the crime and receives a lengthy sentence but is not exposed to the death penalty. Such agreements are a specialty of Dzhokhar’s newest defense lawyer, Judy Clarke of San Diego.
In pitching such a deal to prosecutors, accounts about the Tsarnaev brothers from close observers like Husein could be critical, experts said.
“In a capital case where there’s more than one defendant-suspect, it’s always important to investigate what the relative roles of each of the actors was,” said Elizabeth Semel of the University of California Berkeley law school’s death penalty clinic. She declined to comment on the specifics of the Tsarnaev case.
Speaking to reporters on the day of the shootout in Watertown, Ruslan Tsarni was asked at least three times if he had children that were “close” to Tamerlan and Dzhokhar.
“No. My family has nothing to do with that family,” he eventually responded.
This week, in response to specific questions about Husein, Ruslan Tsarni offered a detailed account of his adopted son’s history and his extended stay with the Tsarnaev brothers in Cambridge.
Ruslan Tsarni said he brought young Husein to the U.S., first to Boston, then to Washington state and eventually to Montgomery County, Md., where Husein attended a public middle school.
An April 2006 news story in the Montgomery County, Md. Gazette describes Husein Tsarni’s participation in an art fair for local students.
Ruslan Tsarni, who was traveling extensively abroad late in the last decade working on oil deals, said he came to conclude that Husein would benefit from being in a home with other children of similar age. Ruslan said he sent Husein to Cambridge and “transferred guardianship” of the young man to Anzor Tsarnaev, Ruslan’s brother and also Husein’s uncle.
“Anzor was looking after him,” Ruslan Tsarni said. He said he sometimes told Anzor he knew things were “tight” with so many people living in the Cambridge apartment, but his brother told him not to worry.
By early 2007, Tsarni was a member of Cambridge Rindge & Latin School’s gymnastics team, competing on the bars in a state meet, according to an article in the Cambridge Chronicle.
In phone conversations, Husein didn’t say much about what the others in the Cambridge apartment were doing there, Ruslan Tsarni said. “He’d say, ‘All’s fine….Everybody’s doing fine…’ He wouldn’t say anything,” said Ruslan, who attributed the lack of information to Husein’s “not talkative” nature.
Neighbors and friends of the Tsarnaev brothers told POLITICO they were not aware of the third young man who lived at the Tsarnaevs’ Cambridge apartment.
“It was always very confusing. It seemed like a bunch of people came in or out,” said Rinat Harel, who lives across the street from the home and complained about loud parties there.
In the summer of 2009, Ruslan Tsarni took up residence in Maryland again and began traveling less, he said. He also says he had a difficult phone conversation then with Tamerlan and other issues caused a falling out within the family. Tsarni says he soon urged Husein to come back to Maryland to finish high school there.
Husein Tsarni spent his senior year at Watkins Mill High School in Gaithersburg. He registered to vote in Montgomery County in October 2010, records show.
Some surprising news arrived from Russia a short time later, Ruslan Tsarni said: Husein’s birth father had surfaced, 15 years after disappearing and being officially declared lost by the authorities. Husein, now an adult, decided to go back to Russia and shipped out about two years ago.
“The boy wanted to be with his father,” Ruslan Tsarni said with a shrug.
Now, willing or not, the young cousin could find himself drawn back into his Cambridge years as the search for explanations for the carnage in Boston continues.
© 2013 POLITICO LLC
More fishy to look at...as if this whole darn story doesn't have plenty already...
'Nother thing; Graham Fuller said he spoke with his son-in-law in Russian because Tsarni's English wasn't very good...but evidently his English was good enough to be admitted as a law student at Duke, right? Um, any clues who paid for his education?
nice find
That's how I roll. Sometimes, though, I can't debunk them for myself which is why I bring them here. I appreciate the ideas and observations of others - where I get disheartened and defensive is when no one bothers to debunk in a way that I can get behind. IE saying things like "that's so stupid I won't even answer" or "you're a hoaxer, GTFO." That proves nothing to me, as you can probably guess.
At first they were told to "be cool, it wasn't your fault, we're investigating" - then eventually decided for whatever reason that they had to become the scapegoats. Their photos go out... and the rest unfolds as we saw it.