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seemslikeadream » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:06 pm wrote:

solace » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:02 pm wrote:

seemslikeadream » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:47 pm wrote:hurting Palestinians more than Netanyahu


I don't see you dissin' ol' Benny around here...if you were soooooo concerned about Palestinians

Maybe he would if that was the fucking topic. Why can't you stay on it? Too concerned about insulting AD it appears.

Did you even read the title of this thread?? Ken O' Keefe....AD had gone way off topic long long time ago...so tell it to the hand solace and chide your friend American Dream for that infraction


here's where AD brought up Palestinians...I'm not supposed to be able to answer that? He can bring up Palestinians but I can't in response?

American Dream » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:34 pm wrote:Question is though how much David Icke is helping or hurting survivors of pedophile rings, Palestinians, folks opposing elite summits such as Bilderberg etc.

I'd say hurting way more than helping...

You think what you did was "answer that?" If you do you are around some bend. "Answering that," would have some rational refutation of his fucking point; not some smart ass insult. But once again you prove you're seemingly incapable of that. No surprise to me.

you see solace American Dream can do some insultin' of his own ...I can't got nothin' on ol' AD...he's as good as it gets...you guys and your selective memory

not some smart ass insult? Does this look smarty or assy or insulty to you?

American Dream » Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:55 pm wrote:

American Dream » Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:34 pm wrote:Question is though how much David Icke is helping or hurting survivors of pedophile rings, Palestinians, folks opposing elite summits such as Bilderberg etc.

I'd say hurting way more than helping...

I appreciate you feel that way

Perhaps you see Icke purely as a person with an ideology you despise and a set of connections you deeply distrust.

FWIW I think of Icke as
a) a writer of large books that I havent read except in bookshops
b) a yTube speaker who can occasional knock a ball out of the park with sheer passion
c) a presenter with generally less than stellar platform skills
e) a one page front page news source for breaking stories
f) a forum with the 8 million view 80000 post thread on Savile , which if there was War of Mental Energy against evil, feels to me like a massive Russian assault against a pedocracy German Sixth Army.
g) an advocate for Ayahuasca and who speaks about his experiences of it in a similar way to Graham Hancock or Joe Rogen


Actually that was really worthwhile to write out, because I realised that
my description of how I percive you think / feel around Icke
is actually very similar to
how I think about a lot of the folks you post as critique of him

You think Icke = ideology you despise and connections you detest
I think "anti_Icke" = ideology I despise and connections I detest

Blimey.

Searcher08 wrote:

American Dream » Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:34 pm wrote:Question is though how much David Icke is helping or hurting survivors of pedophile rings, Palestinians, folks opposing elite summits such as Bilderberg etc.

I'd say hurting way more than helping...

I appreciate you feel that way

Perhaps you see Icke purely as a person with an ideology you despise and a set of connections you deeply distrust.

FWIW I think of Icke as
a) a writer of large books that I havent read except in bookshops
b) a yTube speaker who can occasional knock a ball out of the park with sheer passion
c) a presenter with generally less than stellar platform skills
e) a one page front page news source for breaking stories
f) a forum with the 8 million view 80000 post thread on Savile , which if there was War of Mental Energy against evil, feels to me like a massive Russian assault against a pedocracy German Sixth Army.
g) an advocate for Ayahuasca and who speaks about his experiences of it in a similar way to Graham Hancock or Joe Rogen


Actually that was really worthwhile to write out, because I realised that
my description of how I percive you think / feel around Icke
is actually very similar to
how I think about a lot of the folks you post as critique of him

You think Icke = ideology you despise and connections you detest
I think "anti_Icke" = ideology I despise and connections I detest

Blimey.

*

Blimey indeed!

"f) a forum with the 8 million view 80000 post thread on Savile,..."

I'm surprised Savile ever drops off the first page around here, but he does, too often for some reason I don't understand.

Seeing this thread near the top of the front page for going on about three weeks now, but knowing little about the person in the thread title, I watched the OP, which was an amusing bitch-slap exchange. Read more about some of O'Keefe's affiliations and associations and was curious to see what else had been uncovered, so I skipped ahead to the current page 17.

Only to discover to my dismay, the thread is no longer about O'Keefe.

It is now about....

Drumroll please...

David Icke.



Mods, I'd like to propose a lock on this thread ASAP. It has officially jumped the shark, nuked the fridge and dirtied the Sanchez.

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EDIT -- I was responding [below] to an interesting reply by solace that he apparently just rescinded/deleted. Disregard the below. Unless of course he changes his mind and decides to re-post it .


now that just sounds plain silly. Has a poll been taken that backs this claim? Any links to research that speaks to this?

Hmmm...try googling "ken o'keefe david icke". Try clicking the 7th 8th or 9th link down. Then respond to this post. Maybe we can do a reverse hijack and make this thread about MC Escher.



Oh wait, I just saw your edit...as Emily Litella might say...

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NP.

I'm all for the reverse hijack MC Escher/Gilda Radner montage suggestion... that would surely be far more interesting.

Searcher08 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:02 pm wrote:

American Dream » Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:34 pm wrote:Question is though how much David Icke is helping or hurting survivors of pedophile rings, Palestinians, folks opposing elite summits such as Bilderberg etc.

I'd say hurting way more than helping...

I appreciate you feel that way

Perhaps you see Icke purely as a person with an ideology you despise and a set of connections you deeply distrust.

FWIW I think of Icke as
a) a writer of large books that I havent read except in bookshops
b) a yTube speaker who can occasional knock a ball out of the park with sheer passion
c) a presenter with generally less than stellar platform skills
e) a one page front page news source for breaking stories
f) a forum with the 8 million view 80000 post thread on Savile , which if there was War of Mental Energy against evil, feels to me like a massive Russian assault against a pedocracy German Sixth Army.
g) an advocate for Ayahuasca and who speaks about his experiences of it in a similar way to Graham Hancock or Joe Rogen


Actually that was really worthwhile to write out, because I realised that
my description of how I percive you think / feel around Icke
is actually very similar to
how I think about a lot of the folks you post as critique of him

You think Icke = ideology you despise and connections you detest
I think "anti_Icke" = ideology I despise and connections I detest

Blimey.

I hear ya- yeah all that too but with the paedophiles, the Palestinians, the Bilderbergers, we all know what the corporate press is going to do. They are going to use David Icke's presence to portray all of the opposition as lizard loving, Protocols reading nuts- if they pay any attention to Icke at all.

Same principle holds true for Kenneth O'Keefe...

Mods, I'd like to propose a lock on this thread ASAP. It has officially jumped the shark, nuked the fridge and dirtied the Sanchez.

And goofed the floof, even.

FFS I don't even know who Ken O'Keefe is or was...how is it that Icke pops up in nearly every thread?

American Dream » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:21 am wrote:

Searcher08 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:02 pm wrote:

American Dream » Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:34 pm wrote:Question is though how much David Icke is helping or hurting survivors of pedophile rings, Palestinians, folks opposing elite summits such as Bilderberg etc.

I'd say hurting way more than helping...

I appreciate you feel that way

Perhaps you see Icke purely as a person with an ideology you despise and a set of connections you deeply distrust.

FWIW I think of Icke as
a) a writer of large books that I havent read except in bookshops
b) a yTube speaker who can occasional knock a ball out of the park with sheer passion
c) a presenter with generally less than stellar platform skills
e) a one page front page news source for breaking stories
f) a forum with the 8 million view 80000 post thread on Savile , which if there was War of Mental Energy against evil, feels to me like a massive Russian assault against a pedocracy German Sixth Army.
g) an advocate for Ayahuasca and who speaks about his experiences of it in a similar way to Graham Hancock or Joe Rogen


Actually that was really worthwhile to write out, because I realised that
my description of how I percive you think / feel around Icke
is actually very similar to
how I think about a lot of the folks you post as critique of him

You think Icke = ideology you despise and connections you detest
I think "anti_Icke" = ideology I despise and connections I detest

Blimey.

I hear ya- yeah all that too but with the paedophiles, the Palestinians, the Bilderbergers, we all know what the corporate press is going to do. They are going to use David Icke's presence to portray all of the opposition as lizard loving, Protocols reading nuts- if they pay any attention to Icke at all.

Same principle holds true for Kenneth O'Keefe...

Going back to Ken O'Keefe for a moment, I think he was very naieve around David Duck - I did a search on Duck's site and found immediately found lots of current links to St0rmf3nt discussions.
I did a search on Icke's site and immediately went into a video of "David Duck is a Reptile - the proof" Which I have to say was pretty damn convincing - as Reptile videos go
He certainly was not talked about with fondness or respect on the threads I read over there.

I think that no matter what any independent thinker will try to do against the above, the MSM will throw any amount of external or made-up crap at what it sees as a threat and same with the existing zionist power structures, so in one way being branded as crazy by them will have no effec, because they already did that and it ultimately had no effect - after the Turquoise tracksuit episode, where the description of what was happening to him just sounded like a Kundalini experience / Grofian 'spiritual emergency' - which can happen to the best of us. And the people who might be most offended are those like Stand Wiv Us - makers of the over-muscley Capn Isreel.

There is that above, which is strategic big picture, but there is ALSO the much more down to earth aspect - I appreciate that you have an activist perspective that many other people on RI lack (I include myself in that) I do remember that we both agreed that it would be great to have people from the paraculture community to be empowered activists. For what it's worth, Im seeing frankly very middle class friends in the alternative health area (whom I would NEVER have expected - think Emma Thompson types) gettting involved in the anti-fr2cking movement in the U.K. - which is a direct collision course with the PM. The behaviour of the companies in the 'Gasland' video is starting to be repeated over here...

Perhaps we could move forward that process of helping enable that engagement we started in that other thread?

Searcher08 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:22 am wrote:

American Dream » Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:21 am wrote:

Searcher08 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:02 pm wrote:

American Dream » Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:34 pm wrote:Question is though how much David Icke is helping or hurting survivors of pedophile rings, Palestinians, folks opposing elite summits such as Bilderberg etc.

I'd say hurting way more than helping...

I appreciate you feel that way

Perhaps you see Icke purely as a person with an ideology you despise and a set of connections you deeply distrust.

FWIW I think of Icke as
a) a writer of large books that I havent read except in bookshops
b) a yTube speaker who can occasional knock a ball out of the park with sheer passion
c) a presenter with generally less than stellar platform skills
e) a one page front page news source for breaking stories
f) a forum with the 8 million view 80000 post thread on Savile , which if there was War of Mental Energy against evil, feels to me like a massive Russian assault against a pedocracy German Sixth Army.
g) an advocate for Ayahuasca and who speaks about his experiences of it in a similar way to Graham Hancock or Joe Rogen


Actually that was really worthwhile to write out, because I realised that
my description of how I percive you think / feel around Icke
is actually very similar to
how I think about a lot of the folks you post as critique of him

You think Icke = ideology you despise and connections you detest
I think "anti_Icke" = ideology I despise and connections I detest

Blimey.

I hear ya- yeah all that too but with the paedophiles, the Palestinians, the Bilderbergers, we all know what the corporate press is going to do. They are going to use David Icke's presence to portray all of the opposition as lizard loving, Protocols reading nuts- if they pay any attention to Icke at all.

Same principle holds true for Kenneth O'Keefe...

Going back to Ken O'Keefe for a moment, I think he was very naieve around David Duck - I did a search on Duck's site and found immediately found lots of current links to St0rmf3nt discussions.
I did a search on Icke's site and immediately went into a video of "David Duck is a Reptile - the proof" Which I have to say was pretty damn convincing - as Reptile videos go
He certainly was not talked about with fondness or respect on the threads I read over there.

I think that no matter what any independent thinker will try to do against the above, the MSM will throw any amount of external or made-up crap at what it sees as a threat and same with the existing zionist power structures, so in one way being branded as crazy by them will have no effec, because they already did that and it ultimately had no effect - after the Turquoise tracksuit episode, where the description of what was happening to him just sounded like a Kundalini experience / Grofian 'spiritual emergency' - which can happen to the best of us. And the people who might be most offended are those like Stand Wiv Us - makers of the over-muscley Capn Isreel.

There is that above, which is strategic big picture, but there is ALSO the much more down to earth aspect - I appreciate that you have an activist perspective that many other people on RI lack (I include myself in that) I do remember that we both agreed that it would be great to have people from the paraculture community to be empowered activists. For what it's worth, Im seeing frankly very middle class friends in the alternative health area (whom I would NEVER have expected - think Emma Thompson types) gettting involved in the anti-fr2cking movement in the U.K. - which is a direct collision course with the PM. The behaviour of the companies in the 'Gasland' video is starting to be repeated over here...

Perhaps we could move forward that process of helping enable that engagement we started in that other thread?

Hi Searcher-

You may have missed my main point. It wasn't about David Duke or that Kenneth O'Keefe endorses David Duke, who by the way I doubt is naive about Duke as much as he is dissembling.

My main point was that Icke- as well as anyone else similarly tainted, be it O'Keefe, Atzmon, Shamir, Rense, or whoever- can bring "the kiss of death" to any serious struggles they get involved with. This holds true for Palestine, Bilderberg, paedophile rings, 9/11 or any other issue of potential concern to people not into archons, illuminati, elders of Zion or anything like that, i.e. the vast majority of people.

As to organizing a fusion of activism and conspiracy exposure here, I'm really feeling I want more common ground with collaborators in key areas like political values and goals, logic and reasoning, conspiracy mapping etc. I'll think about it more but in this moment, I'm not feeling it.


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here's a REAL kiss of death for the Palestinians......why don't you ever mention this guy...he's way more destructive than any of those guys you named?




I'm not feelin' it either

Col Quisp » Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:26 pm wrote:

Mods, I'd like to propose a lock on this thread ASAP. It has officially jumped the shark, nuked the fridge and dirtied the Sanchez.

And goofed the floof, even.

FFS I don't even know who Ken O'Keefe is or was...how is it that Icke pops up in nearly every thread?

It all comes back to LIZARDS, LIZARDS LIZARDS!!! But I'm still up for an MC Escher thread-jack!