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Nordic! - have saved that, called it 'Hilary selfie'.........

just going to email my t-shirt guy....

Luther Blissett » Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:21 am wrote:
Philly has a law on the books prohibiting infiltration by local law enforcement and it seems like they stick to it. During the run-up to the RNC in 2000, Pennsylvania state troopers were attending lefty meetings, which is how warehouses began to be raided on the suspicion of finding bombs and bomb-making materials. I'm sure you've all heard the stories, but all they found was puppets and posters. I haven't seen any pigs at any planning meetings thus far, but it seems as though there's a good amount of security culture going on in ours - everyone is already affiliated with one community org or another (Greens, Black Lives Matter, Solidarity feminists, all sorts of Socialist groups, etc). The person who probably looks the most like a pig is me.

There's always the shell game of using multiple government agencies to muddy the waters, e.g. this state entity is prohibited, let's not talk about that other agency which is not. That said, whatever the excesses of the previous cop regime, it may well be that they want to try to avoid more bad PR and intend to use other strategies: overwhelming numbers of cops, tightly targeted detentions etc., not to mention their choice of a terrain where resistance will be managed through crowd control techniques that the squads will drill heavily on. Add to the mix emerging tracking and surveillance technologies (stingrays, fusion centers, drones, social media technologies) and the capacity of the organized and/or controlled left to cooperate and they may well have the situation in Philly to a manageable point, where ugly headlines will not be such a problem.

Cleveland however, is potentially much more explosive, due in large part to the Trump factor...

American Dream » Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:42 am wrote:

Luther Blissett » Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:21 am wrote:
Philly has a law on the books prohibiting infiltration by local law enforcement and it seems like they stick to it. During the run-up to the RNC in 2000, Pennsylvania state troopers were attending lefty meetings, which is how warehouses began to be raided on the suspicion of finding bombs and bomb-making materials. I'm sure you've all heard the stories, but all they found was puppets and posters. I haven't seen any pigs at any planning meetings thus far, but it seems as though there's a good amount of security culture going on in ours - everyone is already affiliated with one community org or another (Greens, Black Lives Matter, Solidarity feminists, all sorts of Socialist groups, etc). The person who probably looks the most like a pig is me.

There's always the shell game of multiple agencies to muddy the waters, e.g. this state entity is prohibited, let's not talk about that other agency which is not. That said, whatever the excesses of the previous cop regime, it may well be that they want to try to avoid more bad PR and intend to use other strategies: overwhelming numbers of cops, tightly targeted detentions etc., not to mention their choice of a terrain where resistance will be managed through crowd control techniques that the squads will drill heavily on. Add to the mix emerging tracking and surveillance technologies (stingrays, fusion centers, drones, social media technologies) and the capacity of the organized and/or controlled left to cooperate and they may well have the situation in Philly to a manageable point, where ugly headlines will not be such a problem.

Cleveland however, is potentially much more explosive, due in large part to the Trump factor...

All good points, I don't trust any of these authoritative figures as far as I can throw them and find all statements of calm from the Kenney administration almost insulting to a degree. I'm definitely imagining ugly headlines though!

From what I understand, the preferred model will be using their overall hegemony (control of the permitting process, etc.) to manage the protests. This means that the more "reasonable" and cooperative liberal/left formations get privileged and that there are thus easy ways to split the resistance into "good" and "bad" formations, in order to blame the victims of police violence for their own fate. But yeah, some level of ugly headlines is pretty much unavoidable.

Also, if the requisite alphabet soup agencies are doing their jobs, they should be developing their list of psychologically vulnerable protestors with a predilection towards "violence", be it against property or people. Those folks- most especially angry young men from out of town- should therefore be steered towards "friends" who are not friends, places to stay that are in the web of control, etc.

Fan fiction?

Whoah.

ROTFLMAO at the above 4chan creepy-pasta role-playing session.

Please tell me nobody here takes this amateur hour shit seriously.

J

Jerky wrote: Please tell me nobody here takes this amateur hour shit seriously.
J

What are you going to do if they do? Call them 'stupid', and claim they are too far intellectually beneath you to bother further?

Could you possibly paste up a facsimilie of the document (that you clearly must have in your possession), that proves you know everything about this subject and that everyone else must obey your thinking regarding it, or else be cast as idiots and unworthy by society at large, especially so here at RI. I need proof that are not just another automaton, regurgitating the party line of a system that is falling apart as we speak. Thank you

FBI Director James Comey news conference coming up in 45 minutes...maybe he's going to indict bush/cheney for war crimes

Hillary was extremely careless in handling of classified material

no evidence

no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges

not recommending charges against Clinton

we can't find evidence

Did anyone really expect anything different?

Wet squib. Totally predictable.

"We do not see these things here."

RocketMan » Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:53 am wrote:"We do not see these things here."

so the CIA told the FBI ...you do not see things here