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tapitsbo » 16 Nov 2016 22:12 wrote:The idea of the emails being code is perhaps chaff and irrelevant to the very distinct and much more incriminating evidence from other sources. At this point this is starting to seem like a uniquely resonant litmus test

Yep.

Same dude?



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After having waded through this pizzagate swamp, back and forth, up and down (and goddamn is there a lot of shit to siphon through), I think that I have come to the same conclusion that any sober, uninvested, reasonably intelligent and historically aware individual would have to come to: that there is nothing to it. Literally nothing, beyond sinister innuendo, insane circular logic, vague accusations based on not-so-remarkable coincidences, absolutely hysterical context-shattering ("OMG it's a CHANGELING!!!") and not a little good old classic homophobia and anti-semitism.

p.s. To anyone reading Jerky's assessment who has yet to sludge through the Pizzagate swamp themselves: Jerky is full of shit. See it for yourselves.

https://reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments ... e_summary/

I'm a big fan of listening to the survivor and giving my time to even the most outrageous claims imaginable, but it's been some time since I've read any survivor accounts that could have reasonably been a part of this. Anything on past threads?

Luther Blissett » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:30 pm wrote:I'm a big fan of listening to the survivor and giving my time to even the most outrageous claims imaginable, but it's been some time since I've read any survivor accounts that could have reasonably been a part of this. Anything on past threads?

You mean survivors who recount the smell of pizza?

FourthBase » Wed Nov 16, 2016 4:34 pm wrote:
Unless you belong to, say, a DC social circle that revolves around a power elite couple who love hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein, or something like that, I wouldn't worry about it. But, yeah, if the sleuthers at 4chan and elsewhere knew of your story and your personal details, you would get investigated by them, in a sloppy but persistent way.

You realize how easy it would be to game this system? Instant controversial publicity, the kind the internet loves. Be even better than promoting a book on Ellen.

But you're right, I have nothing to worry about. Not that I'd worry anyway. Got nothing to hide. Plenty of personal details out there for anyone to see, I make it easy for them. My rabbit warren is a mindfuck that runs pretty deep though, they might fall in and get lost. Because trolls are dumb.

On the other hand, did it occur to you that you may have accidentally tapped into an egregore created by the secret abominable truth?

Oh yes, accidentally. Accidentally.

tapitsbo » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:37 pm wrote:"Witch hunt" would be more accurate if we were at the stage where people, perhaps innocent people, were getting in trouble like the witches of yore are said to have

I take your point, and I agree. It's not a "classic" witch hunt in the American sense where people are being called out by the mainstream press, politicians, or their coworkers and are losing their jobs and reputations over it. That'd be an example of, perhaps, an institutional witch hunt. I'm seeing the pedo hunt as more of a societal thing, mostly on the Internet. We were talking about Cory Feldman not too long ago, and about the pedo activity in Hollywood. We were making best-guesses at who the criminals were/are.

Even look at this election. There was some attention thrown at Trump for the alleged rape of an underage girl. The same accusations have been made about Bill Clinton. Now with Pizzagate, these accusations are spreading further.

And not without cause. We know this shit is out there.

I was just in a work training today where they warned us to be watchful for signs of human trafficking. We were shown some crime stats for the state of Florida and how our county in on the main transportation line for human traffickers from Miami up through the state (same for drugs, too), and we saw some stats of actual cases prosecuted in our area. Involving children.

It's real. I take it seriously.

Which, I think, is also why I'm cautious about it. There are a lot of creepy things in this Pizzagate, and, certainly, the connections are easy to make. I'm not here to dismiss it, so I hope I'm not coming across that way.

I could care less about Podesta, et al. I think the whole group of Democrat elites is rotten to the core. I'm just wary of making connections and accusations through cross-referencing social media.

guruilla » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:35 pm wrote:

Luther Blissett » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:30 pm wrote:I'm a big fan of listening to the survivor and giving my time to even the most outrageous claims imaginable, but it's been some time since I've read any survivor accounts that could have reasonably been a part of this. Anything on past threads?

You mean survivors who recount the smell of pizza?

Survivors who recount abuse and attacks in the DC area by powerful elites.

FourthBase » 17 Nov 2016 03:21 wrote:

After having waded through this pizzagate swamp, back and forth, up and down (and goddamn is there a lot of shit to siphon through), I think that I have come to the same conclusion that any sober, uninvested, reasonably intelligent and historically aware individual would have to come to: that there is nothing to it. Literally nothing, beyond sinister innuendo, insane circular logic, vague accusations based on not-so-remarkable coincidences, absolutely hysterical context-shattering ("OMG it's a CHANGELING!!!") and not a little good old classic homophobia and anti-semitism.

p.s. To anyone reading Jerky's assessment who has yet to sludge through the Pizzagate swamp themselves: Jerky is full of shit. See it for yourselves.

https://reddit.com/r/pizzagate/comments ... e_summary/

I'm full of shit, am I?

Well then, why not start proving it by listing all the evidence that Alfentis is anything more than an artsy homosexual entrepreneur?

Or that the Podesta brothers killed Madelaine McCann?

Or that Marina Abramovic feeds her dinner guests menstrual blood and semen?

Or that this has anything to do with the Clintons?

I'd be happy to look at ANY sequence of evidence that doesn't end with the syllogistic knee-slapper that goes a little something like: "All of the above, plus an ominous photo of Jimmy Saville equals TOLDJA!!! I FUCKEN TOLDJA!!!!!!!"

I await your proof of my shit-fulledness.

Sincerely;
Jerky

Yes Nov3mber, it's true that there is a lot of extraneous noise and what seem to be dead leads... frankly thought there aren't a lot of concrete accusations being made, more a spotlight on extremely bizarre surface material (and I don't mean the tropes just enumerated by YOPJ.) I'm now beginning to wonder if this will ever go any further than that

Luther Blissett » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:39 pm wrote:

guruilla » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:35 pm wrote:

Luther Blissett » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:30 pm wrote:I'm a big fan of listening to the survivor and giving my time to even the most outrageous claims imaginable, but it's been some time since I've read any survivor accounts that could have reasonably been a part of this. Anything on past threads?

You mean survivors who recount the smell of pizza?

Survivors who recount abuse and attacks in the DC area by powerful elites.

Comet Ping Pong was originally founded by James Alefantis and Carole Greenwood in 2006.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Ping_Pong

That's only 10 years. From what I've seen, most survivors don't speak about (or even remember) abuse for decades. I'm sure there are plenty of survivor accounts in DC.

tapitsbo » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:41 pm wrote:Yes Nov3mber, it's true that there is a lot of extraneous noise and what seem to be dead leads... frankly thought there aren't a lot of concrete accusations being made, more a spotlight on extremely bizarre surface material (and I don't mean the tropes just enumerated by YOPJ.) I'm now beginning to wonder if this will ever go any further than that

Like you said before, the thread's a litmus test. More about taking the temperature at RI than anything. When there's agreement that this is all pointing to something real, there's another level to move to; but not here.

guruilla » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:48 pm wrote:

Luther Blissett » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:39 pm wrote:

guruilla » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:35 pm wrote:

Luther Blissett » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:30 pm wrote:I'm a big fan of listening to the survivor and giving my time to even the most outrageous claims imaginable, but it's been some time since I've read any survivor accounts that could have reasonably been a part of this. Anything on past threads?

You mean survivors who recount the smell of pizza?

Survivors who recount abuse and attacks in the DC area by powerful elites.

Comet Ping Pong was originally founded by James Alefantis and Carole Greenwood in 2006.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Ping_Pong

That's only 10 years. From what I've seen, most survivors don't speak about (or even remember) abuse for decades. I'm sure there are plenty of survivor accounts in DC.

I was under the impression that if the Podestas are at the center of a ring, that this pizza place is only one tangential link, not the epicenter of the scandal.

If I were an owner at Comet Ping Pong Pizza, I would be armed, and would make damn sure my employees were armed, both with awareness of the memewar being waged against them by an army of evil online autistic fascists and with weapons of self-defense.

Jerky

I suspect that the upper echelons of the politically powerful on both sides of the political spectrum project their own fantasized perversions upon the opposition’s elite as a moral adjustment to help justify their own judgmental condemnation of their enemy’s character as well as their contrary convictions.

Even amongst the connected, allied or competing corporate tycoons there are conscience-easing accusations to impugn any opposition, charges where the gravity and shame is augmented by the depravity of the evil deeds thought to be covertly conducted.

Most likely it is the Holier-Than-Thou casting the opposition as the cast from Hell and those lost souls, in turn, demonizing the accusers as Satan’s spawn as well.

More often than not they’re both right. The difference is only in opposing flags.

And how much of it all is fantasy versus fact is open to question, despite the convictions that grow with repetition from self-satisfied crusaders for a cause.

For me, the tragedy turns on the inclusion of the innocent in the insinuations. And involving children and pedophilia in the political pandemonium is itself perverted.

A pox on all their houses! Their ultimate duty is to protect the most vulnerable of all.