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TheDuke » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:38 pm wrote:

damn that's eerie. So what is it, brainwashing? drugs? How come in all these vids, including the "execution" ones, these wester hostages seeem so calm? Here he seems more robust than most
conspiratorial narrators in youtube vlogs.

I swear it'd be a freaking surreal PR coup if ISIS shows that all of the hostages are still alive saying "haha, stupid america...we tricked you into two new wars with some simple
editing and effects". Seriously wouldn't surprise me. This ISIS narrative seems like it's poised to dip into the META surreal very soon. I swear Malaysia 777 will have to fit in somehow.

CANT LIE...aw the syncs of the universe. Ya know, if ISIS really wants to terrify...beheading is sadly pretty tame in the ways of showing horror. Anyone seen the Austin indie film
Red White And Blue? There HAS to be a reason as to the "beheading" videos slick crypticness, besides "showing grizzlyness may put off jihadists and be too shocking"

I swear if a book is ever written about this time period and 2015, the next chapter will be called "...And that's when things got, a little weird".

GOOD FUCKING LORD!!!!! I just watched that too just now. There isn't an angle to it that makes any sense. My "powers" are useless. It's a blending of the distant war mentality in "the west" and the "crazy jihadists". It literally makes me squint my eyes in speculation and confusion.

It's going to sound stupid, but the Cantlie (Jesus give us another one) video there, I was left wondering what kind of room was that in? Was the echo added later to give the feel of a big room? Or was it actually a big room painted all in black? If it was a backdrop it would have absorbed the echo. They clearly had at least three cameras.

Nothing adds up. All I can say is "good job". I'm certainly stumped but can tell this is all bullshit. So there is that, I suppose.

Here is my back of the napkin theory. "They" need to keep up appearances. So graphically "they" are adding a balance to the grainy terrorist videos of yesteryear in order to convince us how primitive the enemy was.

There needs to be more footage that can be called upon in the future. The Bin Laden video style just won't cut it anymore. Now they're not primitive they have editing professionals.

I don't always agree with this guy, but every single thing he says here I agree with. About once again the jihadi factory inkwell of Saudi Arabia is being used, how the half a billion dollars to fund "Syrian rebels" will come back to bite rather quickly and how ISIS is just a smokescreen to get at Assad and foment a wider conflict; somehow linking to Iran, Russia and China.

It took 20 years for the Afghan mujahadeen to create "blowback", here the Syrian/Libyan blowback is less than two years.

82_28 » Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:37 am wrote:Here is my back of the napkin theory. "They" need to keep up appearances. So graphically "they" are adding a balance to the grainy terrorist videos of yesteryear in order to convince us how primitive the enemy was.

There needs to be more footage that can be called upon in the future. The Bin Laden video style just won't cut it anymore. Now they're not primitive they have editing professionals.

Yeah the "al Qaeda" videos all the way til the end always looked crappy. Didn't matter if it was 1998 or 2011 they just looked like dookie. Now they look on par with slick tv stuff.

82_28 » Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:21 am wrote:GOOD FUCKING LORD!!!!! I just watched that too just now. There isn't an angle to it that makes any sense. My "powers" are useless. It's a blending of the distant war mentality in "the west" and the "crazy jihadists". It literally makes me squint my eyes in speculation and confusion.

It's going to sound stupid, but the Cantlie (Jesus give us another one) video there, I was left wondering what kind of room was that in? Was the echo added later to give the feel of a big room? Or was it actually a big room painted all in black? If it was a backdrop it would have absorbed the echo. They clearly had at least three cameras.

Nothing adds up. All I can say is "good job". I'm certainly stumped but can tell this is all bullshit. So there is that, I suppose.

Yeah remember the old days when white Western hostages being held by the bad guys appeared all beat up, scared, coerced. The new era is I guess they're well rested and almost brainwashed
and willing martyrs for slick produced propaganda. I don't think anyone online or on tv has come up with a workable theory as to the strangeness and calmness to these "execution" videos.

8bitagent » Fri Sep 19, 2014 2:49 pm wrote:
Yeah remember the old days when white Western hostages being held by the bad guys appeared all beat up, scared, coerced. The new era is I guess they're well rested and almost brainwashed
and willing martyrs for slick produced propaganda. I don't think anyone online or on tv has come up with a workable theory as to the strangeness and calmness to these "execution" videos.

Agreed it's surreal and jarring to watch this...there's the well-written script, the pointing the fingers to the head and rather sedate mention of his own looming death...I did think though, water-boarding doesn't leave scars or the torture victim looking any different, does it? Of course, who knows where they learned water-boarding from??

Cantile seems calm and fairly detached. I'm presuming that he understands that he's being held by a a movement that is no more fucked-up, violent and cruel than any other Levant splinter group, army, government or militia. And through his experience he may actually feel compelled on an ethical basis to talk to the West about the mess they made and the possibility of a more sane response to the whirlwind. Not so much 'brainwashed' as... 'I've seen a lot, and can only tell my own truth, albeit with ISIL looking over me.'

I just watched the Cantlie video, and now it's been taken down.

You can find the John Cantlie video by googling John Cantlie video. I found it again on YouTube, oddly enough.

Another poster said it looked like there were 3 cameras. There is only two. Around 2:51 in the video, the image is mirrored, the lighting and the mole on his right lower jaw are the clues.

I am somewhat amazed at the production quality of the video. Professional stuff, not your Blair Witch stock. Who here has the moxie to click on the Subscribe button?

it is on vimeo here.

norton ash » Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:01 am wrote:Cantile seems calm and fairly detached. I'm presuming that he understands that he's being held by a a movement that is no more fucked-up, violent and cruel than any other Levant splinter group, army, government or militia. And through his experience he may actually feel compelled on an ethical basis to talk to the West about the mess they made and the possibility of a more sane response to the whirlwind. Not so much 'brainwashed' as... 'I've seen a lot, and can only tell my own truth, albeit with ISIL looking over me.'

It's not that I hate Obama, i'ts just the "Levant" word is like when someone says : I rant into some Orientals and Chinamen". Their group is called The Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham(ISIS), hereto post June "caliphate" as IS.
I don't know where Obama and Cameron get this Levant ISIL stuff. Islamic State even hashtag and metags online as "#ISIS".

To me it's alarming most people assume ISIS is a "real deal blowback example"...al Qaeda? oh yeah that was blown out of proportion psyop, but ISIS! oh no they the real deal and must be dealt with.

Icke is right on the money I feel

This just in...
the Islamic State is going to change their name to Syria And The Arab Nation

but seriously, this just in ALL 49 Turkish hostages have been freed by ISIS. Richard Engle kept speculating ISIS was giving messages to Turkey to stay
out of the Western coalition of the willing...perhaps Turkey is secretly working with them
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-t ... ys-n207831

I$I$ apparently released a slick hi res 55 minute feature, ending with an apparent American executing a row of captured Syrians forced to dig their own graves. It's so hi res, reminds me of the recent VICE magazine youtube/HBO specials. Wouldn't be surprised if VICE is working for or with ISIS or the globalists behind the group. Also I expect the dynamic and multi-tiered levels and aspects of ISIS get to get much more stranger and wtf esoteric.

THEY are fucking with us. And ISIS is part of THEY, not an organic "independent blowback"