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Posted: **Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:06 am**

Burnt Hill wrote:
semper occultus wrote:.....if you perform a "fake" ritual but ensure it is disseminated out to a sufficiently large number of people such that there is implanted consciouly and / or subconsciously the idea of a sacrifice being performed does this generate any worthwhile magickal ripples in the ether...?
The magickal ripples emanating from this act are so weak as to effect only the naïve, weak-willed and corrupt.
We ritually sacrifice our soldiers, our incarcerated-some innocent, our food, our time and our will so mindlessly,
that to empower this act with our attention is a betrayal to our very souls.

I can only bow to this in awe of its sharp brevity and deep insight, sublime.

Posted: **Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:25 am**

Makes me think of this great old movie. They were supposed to do a remake ...

Posted: **Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:55 am**

(What is the target audience for the daily mail? How many times can you use the term "bisexual" in one article?) (I'm rarely if ever shocked anymore by the depths of human potential for psychosis, but guilt by association is bad logic)

Posted: **Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:10 am**

Burnt Hill » 24 Aug 2016 18:05 wrote: The magickal ripples emanating from this act are so weak as to effect only the naïve, weak-willed and corrupt.
We ritually sacrifice our soldiers, our incarcerated-some innocent, our food, our time and our will so mindlessly,
that to empower this act with our attention is a betrayal to our very souls.

Is there a heart emoticon here?

But I think you've landed it so well. All the appeals to "magick"... but we're only ever dealing with ourselves, no matter what dimension. You can call down any demon, it matters not, what only matters is the shape of matter. That is the dumbstruck luck of occultism.

Posted: **Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:43 am**

OP ED » Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:55 am wrote:(What is the target audience for the daily mail? How many times can you use the term "bisexual" in one article?) (I'm rarely if ever shocked anymore by the depths of human potential for psychosis, but guilt by association is bad logic)

The Daily Mail aka the Daily hate - is aimed at middle class right wingers who are zenophobic, homophobic, and most of the others ...'phobics or 'ists, racist,sexist etc etc. Its a vile rag that's only use is to wipe ones arse if the tissue runs out (tho' that would mean one having a copy in the house....for 'research' no doubt : )

Posted: **Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:08 am**

Burnt Hill » Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:05 pm wrote:
semper occultus wrote:.....if you perform a "fake" ritual but ensure it is disseminated out to a sufficiently large number of people such that there is implanted consciouly and / or subconsciously the idea of a sacrifice being performed does this generate any worthwhile magickal ripples in the ether...?
The magickal ripples emanating from this act are so weak as to effect only the naïve, weak-willed and corrupt.
We ritually sacrifice our soldiers, our incarcerated-some innocent, our food, our time and our will so mindlessly,
that to empower this act with our attention is a betrayal to our very souls.

Very well said and if it's just a silly prank performed by silly students on a whim, very true. However, the arrogance and sense of invulnerability that invariably accompanies evil is more pronounced than ever before. Ritual human sacrifice is woven into the fabric of our society so much so that we're blind to it, and on some level, accept it as part of life and always has been. But the difference between the past few centuries and the present is now those with all of the power and wealth, the same people who so easily sacrifice others in wars, state-sanctioned executions, conditions of absolute poverty, etc., are literally performing the ceremonies that we believe used to accompany ancient human sacrifice right in front of our faces every chance they get: superbowls, olympics and official celebrations of whatever (CERN) etc.

So one should consider CERN's strange affinity for occult or Satanic symbolism when so-called "pranks" like this are presented for the world to see. Especially when CERN refuses to answer any questions except to say it was a prank and let it go at that. Why aren't they more accountable? Why don't they have to explain themselves? .

Posted: **Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:43 am**

It's true that ritual sacrifice is a cultural meme now, and it has been for decades. Maybe it started with those old horror films of the 1960s, which bled into the Satanic Panic, of the 1980's , the counter-culture backlash to that in the 1990's, and now the sarcasm and satire of the 2000's.

Could we say the same thing about UFO's?

I've looked into the CERN-satan connections and I personally don't see it. I could see why some people would see it . . . I mean their logo could be three sixes (or it could also be a particle accelerator (hmm). I will say that a lot of secular, academic elites are defiantly tone-deaf when it comes to how fundamentalist religions or occultists could interpret things; which goes right back to their lack of detailed explanation for the ritual.

Why should they out some young students or staff members? Why should the ruin the careers of potential scientists? The only people still talking about this are fundamentalist Christians, occultists, or conspiracy geeks like us . . . all groups that European scientists could not care less about.

Posted: **Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:54 am**

"Why should they out some young students or staff members? Why should they ruin the careers of potential scientists?"

Just some thoughts:

It would send a clear message that this sort of thing is not tolerated by intelligent people doing serious work.

The scientific community looks up to CERN. Maybe they have a responsibility? Not only to the scientific community, but to the entire Earth community? Should they be held to a higher standard? Hold themselves to a higher standard?

Still, people working at CERN are still just people. Possessing a bigger brain with specialized training doesn't make you a more evolved human being. So I don't really expect anything different.

Posted: **Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:36 pm**

brekin » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:06 pm wrote:
Burnt Hill wrote:
semper occultus wrote:.....if you perform a "fake" ritual but ensure it is disseminated out to a sufficiently large number of people such that there is implanted consciouly and / or subconsciously the idea of a sacrifice being performed does this generate any worthwhile magickal ripples in the ether...?
The magickal ripples emanating from this act are so weak as to effect only the naïve, weak-willed and corrupt.
We ritually sacrifice our soldiers, our incarcerated-some innocent, our food, our time and our will so mindlessly,
that to empower this act with our attention is a betrayal to our very souls.
I can only bow to this in awe of its sharp brevity and deep insight, sublime.

Lay off on the unction a bit, will ya? It's dripping all over the floor.

I disagree vehemently that Burnt Hill's solemn-silly dictum is in any way sharper, deeper, more insightful, wiser or truer than Barbara Bush's:

Burnt Hill wrote:The magickal ripples emanating from this act are so weak as to effect [sic] only the naïve, weak-willed and corrupt.

You speak, as usual, like an expert. But I do not believe that you are any more of an expert in magic(k) than in the inner workings of the Orlando Police Dept. I do not believe that you are especially qualified to tell us anything at all about the effects of "magickal ripples", real or fictional. Are you? If so, how, exactly? - For the time being and for the sake of argument, let's grant you your premise.

So we should just ignore whatever happened at CERN? Or we should empower with our attention only the corporate media's docile stenography of CERN's belated, reluctant, perfunctory, evasive and (in short) insultingly poor "explanation"? We should accept the hacks' immediate and unanimous reassurance that there's nothing to see here and just obediently move on? We should bestow our attention only on HuffPo's, VICE's and The Guardian's predictably vacuous accounts, nod our heads sagely, snigger along with them, fall into lockstep, and ask no further questions?

I don't think so. I'd say we "betray our souls" far more whenever we do just that. Because we make ourselves progressively more weak-willed and corrupt every time we do so. And faux-naivety is much worse than naivety, because it's a pretence. (Infants are charming. Infantile adults are not.)

Burnt Hill wrote:We ritually sacrifice our soldiers, our incarcerated-some innocent, our food, our time and our will so mindlessly,
that to empower this act with our attention is a betrayal to our very souls

1. That is a complete non-sequitur!

2. The sacrifice of soldiers, prisoners, food, time and will is ongoing and shows no signs of ceasing or even slowing down. It's taking place in a world (and especially: a nation) ruled and populated by people who have been following Burnt Hill's prescription (and his example) for decades of adulthood, if not all their lives. We do nothing to alter and improve that state of affairs by accepting a piss-poor explanation of anything, by CERN or by any other powerful institution. On the contrary.

And we do not "empower this act with our attention" (!) any more than Mandela or Steve Biko empowered apartheid by paying very close and sustained attention to it (in order to oppose it), rather than merely ignoring it and hoping it would go away. Or any more than Ignaz Semmelweis empowered puerperal fever by paying very close and sustained attention to it (in order to discover its actual cause [i.e., dirty doctors' hands]), rather than accepting the lazy and self-serving conventional wisdom of the medical establishment of his time and place.

Or any more than Jeff Wells empowered ritual abuse by paying close and sustained attention to survivors' accounts, rather than just dismissing them instantly as ridiculous and obviously fake.

Posted: **Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:45 pm**

MacCruiskeen » Wed Aug 24, 2016 1:36 pm wrote:If they were in fact students. We don't even know that yet, because CERN hasn't condescended to tell us.

And why haven't they? Why's it so hard for them to say so, if that's all it was?

In a post I made about this very point on page 1 of this thread, a week ago, I included this quote from The Independent's report:

[T]he footage appears to have been recorded as part of a prank by scientists at Europe’s top physics lab, which serves as the home of the Lagre Hadron Collider. The identity and motives of those behind the video hasn’t yet been discovered.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/scien ... ommentsDiv

Their identity and motives are still unknown, to the best of my knowledge. And CERN has still NOT stated that only students were involved. Finally, CERN has also still NOT stated explicitly that no one was hurt and that the young woman is alive and well. (You'd think this last would be a priority.)

Their persistent evasiveness leads me to the tentative & provisional conclusion that people other than students were involved -- perhaps people who are too important to lose (Too Big To Fail). Is it completely unimaginable that some very senior scientists were involved? If so, why?

Posted: **Thu Aug 25, 2016 4:28 pm**

Burnt hill said

The magickal ripples emanating from this act are so weak as to effect only the naïve, weak-willed and corrupt.
We ritually sacrifice our soldiers, our incarcerated-some innocent, our food, our time and our will so mindlessly,
that to empower this act with our attention is a betrayal to our very souls.

The ether is blue and purple colored. It is most thick around conifer trees. It is visible to those that can see it. It hangs in the air like a fog. It is beautiful but most folks cannot see it.

Posted: **Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:03 pm**

MacCruiskeen » Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:36 pm wrote:
brekin » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:06 pm wrote:
Burnt Hill wrote:
semper occultus wrote:.....if you perform a "fake" ritual but ensure it is disseminated out to a sufficiently large number of people such that there is implanted consciouly and / or subconsciously the idea of a sacrifice being performed does this generate any worthwhile magickal ripples in the ether...?
The magickal ripples emanating from this act are so weak as to effect only the naïve, weak-willed and corrupt.
We ritually sacrifice our soldiers, our incarcerated-some innocent, our food, our time and our will so mindlessly,
that to empower this act with our attention is a betrayal to our very souls.
I can only bow to this in awe of its sharp brevity and deep insight, sublime.
Lay off on the unction a bit, will ya? It's dripping all over the floor.

I disagree vehemently that Burnt Hill's solemn-silly dictum is in any way sharper, deeper, more insightful, wiser or truer than Barbara Bush's:

Thank God for Mac; for reason still is somehow not quite dead here.

Burnt Hill wrote:The magickal ripples emanating from this act are so weak as to effect [sic] only the naïve, weak-willed and corrupt.
You speak, as usual, like an expert. But I do not believe that you are any more of an expert in magic(k) than in the inner workings of the Orlando Police Dept. I do not believe that you are especially qualified to tell us anything at all about the effects of "magickal ripples", real or fictional. Are you? If so, how, exactly? - For the time being and for the sake of argument, let's grant you your premise.

So we should just ignore whatever happened at CERN? Or we should empower with our attention only the corporate media's docile stenography of CERN's belated, reluctant, perfunctory, evasive and (in short) insultingly poor "explanation"? We should accept the hacks' immediate and unanimous reassurance that there's nothing to see here and just obediently move on? We should bestow our attention only on HuffPo's, VICE's and The Guardian's predictably vacuous accounts, nod our heads sagely, snigger along with them, fall into lockstep, and ask no further questions?

I don't think so. I'd say we "betray our souls" far more whenever we do just that. Because we make ourselves progressively more weak-willed and corrupt every time we do so. And faux-naivety is much worse than naivety, because it's a pretence. (Infants are charming. Infantile adults are not.)

Burnt Hill wrote:We ritually sacrifice our soldiers, our incarcerated-some innocent, our food, our time and our will so mindlessly,
that to empower this act with our attention is a betrayal to our very souls
1. That is a complete non-sequitur!

2. The sacrifice of soldiers, prisoners, food, time and will is ongoing and shows no signs of ceasing or even slowing down. It's taking place in a world (and especially: a nation) ruled and populated by people who have been following Burnt Hill's prescription (and his example) for decades of adulthood, if not all their lives. We do nothing to alter and improve that state of affairs by accepting a piss-poor explanation of anything, by CERN or by any other powerful institution. On the contrary.

And we do not "empower this act with our attention" (!) any more than Mandela or Steve Biko empowered apartheid by paying very close and sustained attention to it (in order to oppose it), rather than merely ignoring it and hoping it would go away. Or any more than Ignaz Semmelweis empowered puerperal fever by paying very close and sustained attention to it (in order to discover its actual cause [i.e., dirty doctors' hands]), rather than accepting the lazy and self-serving conventional wisdom of the medical establishment of his time and place.

Or any more than Jeff Wells empowered ritual abuse by paying close and sustained attention to survivors' accounts, rather than just dismissing them instantly as ridiculous and obviously fake.

Thank Mac that reason somehow still doth prevail, even here, lord, in this endless dark.

Posted: **Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:37 pm**

Mac said-
And we do not "empower this act with our attention" (!) any more than Mandela or Steve Biko empowered apartheid by paying very close and sustained attention to it (in order to oppose it), rather than merely ignoring it and hoping it would go away.

Surely you are not suggesting the single act of hoaxery we have been discussing rises to the level of evil that apartheid represents?
No, you are hyper-exaggerating in an unreasonable fashion, as only you would.
Of course the part you share parenthetically is the most important part.
Those brave men directed their attention to defeat an existing powerful evil, not empower it.

The childs play at CERN should not be compared to the efforts of men like Biko and Mandela, that's bad juju.

Posted: **Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:41 pm**

Posted: **Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:57 pm**

"And if ye gaze long into the telly, the telly gazes also into you."

Horror fiction

Family entertainment

"You're mine now."

Charles Fort wrote:I think we're property.

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