Morty » 17 Sep 2016 22:29 wrote:He isn't a spook, he's just a very naughty boy. I sent him some money when the Israelis did away with his laptop during the Mavi Marmara episode. After living the life of a financially insecure activist, having well-meaning strangers wire wads of money into your bank account must seem like a good way to stay on top of life. I think it must have gone to his head.
There are a few points I found interesting about the Max Igan interview that I considered extremely poignant. Such as when he asks amidst other questions, how O ' Keefe manages to enter Gaza with a single phone call, when Igan has been trying to get back there without success forever and a day.
Morty » 17 Sep 2016 22:29 wrote:He isn't a spook, he's just a very naughty boy. I sent him some money when the Israelis did away with his laptop during the Mavi Marmara episode. After living the life of a financially insecure activist, having well-meaning strangers wire wads of money into your bank account must seem like a good way to stay on top of life. I think it must have gone to his head.
There are a few points I found interesting about the Max Igan interview that I considered extremely poignant. Such as when he asks amidst other questions, how O ' Keefe manages to enter Gaza with a single phone call, when Igan has been trying to get back there without success forever and a day.
Maybe because he's a Palestinian citizen?
I hadn't seen the holocaust denial stuff, i'll check that out. Of course if that's true I'll write him off as an antisemite.
"He who wounds the ecosphere literally wounds God" -- Philip K. Dick
Morty » 17 Sep 2016 22:29 wrote:He isn't a spook, he's just a very naughty boy. I sent him some money when the Israelis did away with his laptop during the Mavi Marmara episode. After living the life of a financially insecure activist, having well-meaning strangers wire wads of money into your bank account must seem like a good way to stay on top of life. I think it must have gone to his head.
There are a few points I found interesting about the Max Igan interview that I considered extremely poignant. Such as when he asks amidst other questions, how O ' Keefe manages to enter Gaza with a single phone call, when Igan has been trying to get back there without success forever and a day.
Maybe because he's a Palestinian citizen?
I hadn't seen the holocaust denial stuff, i'll check that out. Of course if that's true I'll write him off as an antisemite.
Ive got him marked as cointel and possibly mind controlled. A guy who speaks a lot of common sense WRT the Middle East, whilst at the same time praising Hitler, who also manages to get gigs at all the influentially hip places he does is seriously suspect IMHO.
Indeed you did AD, whilst at the same time, some time ago in this thread suggesting that his funding and connections raise some serious questions about exactly who Ken O Keefe is really working for.
Though technically speaking you are spot on.
I would just find it worse, if not even in the slightest bit surprising that he is on the payroll
No, I just think he's someone who spreads a lot of racist, far right ideas and associates them with Palestinian solidarity activists. I consider his influence to be negative and destructive but only for what he de facto says and does, which is spread bigotry in the name of "leftism" and hurt the actual cause of Palestinian/Decolonial Liberation...
American Dream » 18 Sep 2016 22:09 wrote:No, I just think he's someone who spreads a lot of racist, far right ideas and associates them with Palestinian solidarity activists. I consider his influence to be negative and destructive but only for what he de facto says and does, which is spread bigotry in the name of "leftism" and hurt the actual cause of Palestinian/Decolonial Liberation...
So you have satisfied yourself that he is managing to fund himself, despite youre previous questioning?
After all, we all know that their are plenty of people with endless swathes of cash willing to invest in people who will perpetuate the divide and rule meme, dont we?
I know of no compelling proof that any of the racist/far right "friends" of the Palestinians are bonafide agents running a covert operation. As noted before, we can see that they are spreading reactionary and bigoted ideas which actually hurt the cause of Human Liberation and serve to misguide us, but it could well be that they are organizing for far right causes, no matter what their rhetoric.
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American Dream » 18 Sep 2016 22:30 wrote:I know of no compelling proof that any of the racist/far right "friends" of the Palestinians are bonafide agents running a covert operation. As noted before, we can see that they are spreading reactionary and bigoted ideas which actually hurt the cause of Human Liberation and serve to misguide us but it could just be that they support far right causes...
Which I might file under the heading of fascists are tools of the state?
Who funds tools of the state, or should that be Wall St?
American Dream » 18 Sep 2016 22:34 wrote:Some people are just dupes and true believers some are deliberately conniving on behalf of an organized force.
Good evidence is the only way to really know...
For sure. The good news is that, after hearing Max Igan, and Ken O Keefe answering on the Ritchie Allen show, then for all of the truth he spoke, Im done with Ken O Keefe.