Dr. Robert Malone is the inventor of mRNA Vaccine technology.
Mr. Steve Kirsch is a serial entrepreneur who has been researching adverse reactions to COVID vaccines.
Dr. Bret Weinstein is an evolutionary biologist.
Bret talks to Robert and Steve about the pandemic, treatment and the COVID vaccines.
Bret's Twitter: HTTPS://twitter.com/bretweinstein
The first is that I am fairly sure Malone has had the vaccine.
The second is that the cytotoxic spike protein is just as cytotoxic when its attached to the virus. And there will be more of it cos it is replicating in your system, unlike the vaccine. the idea that the vaccine's cytotoxicity itself promotes its effectiveness is also interesting.
The third is that Malone is promoting traditional non rna/dna vaccines on his twitter, specifically one produced by Novavax. TBF he seems reasonably legit about it but does he have a financial interest in Novavax? He probably has one in any mRNA vaccines anyway given he holds patents in the process so he is going against his own financial interest by calling for caution on their use.
246 vaccinated residents diagnosed with COVID; 3 dead, Michigan reports
As many as 246 Michigan residents considered fully vaccinated against COVID-19 were later diagnosed with the virus, and three have died, state officials confirmed Monday.
The cases were reported between Jan. 1 and March 31, and the 246 had a positive test 14 or more days after the last dose in the vaccine series, said Lynn Sutfin, a spokeswoman for the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services, in an email.
Well, the three must have had underlying conditions, right, cause COVID-19 is just a mild flu, and the only casualties have underlying conditions. Isn't that the narrative we're going with? So even if the vaccine gave them Covid, they should have survived since it's just a mild flu.
You're assuming the cause of death is simply 'covid', when near-term adverse effects for these shots exhibit a number of contributing factors/ill effects.
These experimental shots are -- in certain instances -- causing all sorts of internal issues: clotting, inflammation, sending mixed signals to the body's immune system, etc. Multiple contributing factors leading to dis-ease. And are we now simply ignoring that vaccinated individuals are reportedly getting infected with covid? What, exactly, is the purpose of these experimental shots (more pointedly, 'the purpose' as sold to the passive consumer) if not to prevent catching this covid virus? Could it be that it doesn't work as advertised? Could it be that it may actually cause harm?
Instead, your response is: "See? Says here cause of death was covid -- so clearly covid is actually lethal... how do you resolve that one, conspiratards?!"
Illuminating.
How is the vaccine causing anything worse than the virus? What is the mechanism that causes this?
Evidence for the spike protein being ctyotoxic has been around for at least a year. ie Before vaccines were brought out, so how is it that the vaccine somehow makes this worse? ie Blood clotting, inflammation and the endothelial destruction you people are talking about with the vaccine were all serious symptoms associated with severe covid infection before the vaccine roll out.
Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:56 pm
by Belligerent Savant
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For one, the 'vaccine' is killing young people, or making them ill, and likely causing long-term issues, at a far greater clip than this virus.
There is also zero awareness of the impact of these experimental, unprecedented shots on the body 12+ months post-vaccination.
"Long Covid" has not been shown to be any different than the lingering symptoms tied to ANY illness. Nothing unique there. I've seen no reports of this becoming a prevailing or common issue - if indeed it exists.
Plenty of fear-inducing and misleading content -- par for the course -- but minimal substance.
Lastly, why the F would anyone agree to take a shot that would mimic the health issues of what one believes the disease may cause? Why not just avoid it altogether?
Once more, the virus has an IFR of less than 0.2, on par with influenza; many that catch it suffer mild or moderate flu-like symptoms, and an even greater percentage have no symptoms at all.
From what we've seen so far Re: adverse reactions to these shots, i'll take whatever this covid virus brings to the table every time over any shot. Not to mention the natural -- and legitimate -- immunity inherited after catching the virus vs 'lessened symptoms' that these shots report to offer.
Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:03 pm
by Joe Hillshoist
How is this:
For one, the 'vaccine' is killing young people, or making them ill, and likely causing long-term issues, at a far greater clip than this virus.
possible when the only things in the vaccine that cause issues come from the virus?
Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:09 pm
by Joe Hillshoist
So in Australia nearly 6 million vaccine doses have been administered and nearly a million people have had full doses.
We've had 30,000 cases of covid and just over 900 deaths attributed to it.
Do the maths and tell me how many people should have died here for this vaccine to be killing "young people at a far greater clip than this virus."
For one, the 'vaccine' is killing young people, or making them ill, and likely causing long-term issues, at a far greater clip than this virus.
possible when the only things in the vaccine that cause issues come from the virus?
There is no data at the moment that suggests this, but beyond that: keep in mind NONE of these shots contain the actual virus, as it's yet to be isolated. the shots contain SYNTHETIC iterations of the reported covid-19 strain.
But welcome data that indicates otherwise.
Also: I'd love to see a detailed breakdown of the deaths attributed to covid in Australia. If on par with the criteria utilized in the U.S., the actual number would be -- potentially -- markedly lower.
There is no data at the moment that suggests this, but beyond that: keep in mind NONE of these shots contain the actual virus, as it's yet to be isolated. the shots contain SYNTHETIC iterations of the reported covid-19 strain.
But welcome data that indicates otherwise.
So what?
The virus itself is a synthetic iteration of something else.
Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:14 pm
by Belligerent Savant
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So you're saying it's not a virus? What is it, then?
Anyway, if it hasn't yet been isolated, what do these shots contain? A reported synthetic replication. Among other ingredients.
There's no data that I've seen that says "the virus side-effects are the same as the vaccine".
Does this covid virus cause myocarditis? Because that's one of the primary adverse effects of these shots, particularly on the young.
Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:52 pm
by stickdog99
Well, the issue for me is that since vaccines are now recommended for all healthy children over 12, vaccines need to be held to a much higher standard of safety than that of an illness that these children may or may not contract. First, do no harm. Just a hundred children killed or permanently disabled by this vaccine campaign is too many for an illness that may be less severe for children than the flu.
Anyway, if it hasn't yet been isolated, what do these shots contain? A reported synthetic replication. Among other ingredients.
There's no data that I've seen that says "the virus side-effects are the same as the vaccine".
Does this covid virus cause myocarditis? Because that's one of the primary adverse effects of these shots, particularly on the young.
Yes it does. The virus itself and the immune response can both cause myocarditis in infected patients.
IMO the virus is a synthetic virus. Ie it most likely came from a lab and was either an accidental leak or a deliberate act.
Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:51 am
by drstrangelove
The stats are juked in Australia. Deaths are pretty much all aged care who were last gasp anyhow. Positive cases unaccounted for. Most the stats come out of Victoria, and the health department of that State can't be trusted.
So as usual, data does not equal reality in Australia.
Anyway, if it hasn't yet been isolated, what do these shots contain? A reported synthetic replication. Among other ingredients.
There's no data that I've seen that says "the virus side-effects are the same as the vaccine".
Does this covid virus cause myocarditis? Because that's one of the primary adverse effects of these shots, particularly on the young.
Yes it does. The virus itself and the immune response can both cause myocarditis in infected patients.
IMO the virus is a synthetic virus. Ie it most likely came from a lab and was either an accidental leak or a deliberate act.
Show me the raw stats for this.
In any event, how does any of your commentary provide incentive/justification for taking these synthetic experimental shots? For a 'virus' with, again, less than a 0.2 IFR and survival rate of over 99% (for those not of advanced age and/or in long term care)?
Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:24 am
by Belligerent Savant
drstrangelove » Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:51 pm wrote:The stats are juked in Australia. Deaths are pretty much all aged care who were last gasp anyhow. Positive cases unaccounted for. Most the stats come out of Victoria, and the health department of that State can't be trusted.
So as usual, data does not equal reality in Australia.
Yes - essentially the case in most, if not all, regions across the globe.
And yet lives and livelihoods were upended, ruined, and lost over lockdowns/mandates/etc.
And still, justifications for the madness persists.
Here's an example of the manipulation of data employed from the onset of this "pandemic".
Re: Coronavirus Crisis: Main Thread
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:19 pm
by Belligerent Savant
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A posting on LinkedIn, related to the above Telegraph article.
Is the UK Government telling the truth? Can you not see from the image below that the government are telling you what they want to keep you in fear?
Do you remember the first few news conferences Boris and his team did? Did you also notice that the numbers didn't match what they were saying? Go back and take a look.
I saw it and I knew I had to find out the truth because I was/am in the extremely vulnerable group having gone through leukaemia twice and I had to know what, if any danger I was in.
So, if you think the situation is bad enough to justify all the measures that have and are being put in place, I don't understand why so many of you haven't tried to become more informed. If you really want to know the truth of the situation, you'd take an hour out of your day/evening to do a bit of research and you'd find that the data and the narrative don't add up.
(LinkedIn moderators - this is all factual from the UK Gov, WHO and other main medical data sources).
- You'd find that PCR tests are being undertaken incorrectly and against guidelines from the inventor and the WHO. Cycle thresholds are way above upper recommended limit of 35, causing 70%+ false positives. Freedom Of Information requests are showing this.
- You'd find that the use of "died within 28 days of a positive PCR test" to paint a picture of deaths from Covid-19 is totally incorrect (as per my point earlier on the false positives of PCR tests).
- You'd realise that the vaccines are still in trial phase, with the earliest trial ending in 2022. You'd realise that there is NO, ZERO, NOT A JOT of data to show medium to long term adverse effects of any of the vaccines.
- You'd find that trials of the MRNA technology, which is in the jabs, on animals were halted because "too many animals were dying" (testified in court).
- You'd find that there have been many (nearly 200,000) instances of serious adverse effects from the vaccines already, including my very, very health dad who had a heart attack 2 days after the second jab.
- You'd find there have been over 1000 deaths following the vaccine (Check UK Yellow Card data)
- You'd find that in US trials, children / teens are show concerning levels of irreversible heart inflammation, with deaths also registered following the vaccination.
- You'd find the survival rate from Covid-19 infection is 98.7% for elderly and 99.5% for general population (gov.uk, British Medical Journal, WHO, fullfact.org)
-You'd find that the majority of the "excess deaths" Boris speaks about are not related to Covid-19 (and in fact as a trend of past years we are on an average). Do not resuscitate orders, increased cancer deaths, increased "deaths at home", increased suicides. The list goes on.
Yes, people have died. But even if you know someone that has "died within 28 days of a positive PCR test" surely things like the picture below make you even a bit curious/suspicious?
