Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:51 pm
Can Larry not reach ? I ask this question in earnest ;


What you don't know can't hurt them.
https://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/
https://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?t=20743

Now...call me crazy, but I sadly feel that even above all this, even above a complex multi generational European brotherhood and black brotherhood worldwide...there is, a much more powerful invisible hand.
One that cannot be killed, one that cannot die. And one that explains how such an agenda can continue on for thousands of years even after generations die out.
slimmouse wrote:Can Larry not reach ? I ask this question in earnest ;
American Dream wrote:8bitagent wrote:Now...call me crazy, but I sadly feel that even above all this, even above a complex multi generational European brotherhood and black brotherhood worldwide...there is, a much more powerful invisible hand.
One that cannot be killed, one that cannot die. And one that explains how such an agenda can continue on for thousands of years even after generations die out.
A world-wide union of bad people, magicians of the left-hand path and assorted fellow travelers? Sure.
Some sort of overarching and malevolent force organizing this through the generations? OK.
Swallowing wholesale what every conspiracy writer has ever had to say about the specific nature of this beast, just because they seem to have part of the story? That would be impossible to do, since so many people have attached so much different, and contradictory, baggage to the story...
8bitagent wrote:American Dream wrote:8bitagent wrote:what if, there is indeed an invisible hand that connects them all and guides them?
And regardless if one sees John Dee and Kelly as "good guys", its clear the British monarchy was guided by the occult..a monarchy that was not up to altruistic means. Even the entire origins and reason for America I now question...regardless if the founding fathers had good intentions.
When you look at the public sacrificing, esoteric power structures of Latin American societies, Babylonians, ect...and you look at the European bloodlines through the middle ages to modern day; one has to wonder if there are multi generational powerful royal families tied with the occult that control major world spanning institutions.

Define NWO.
I've seen that quote a lot over the years and never bothered to look up the context. I was thinking about it today and looked it up. It's mentioned on the board a number of times as you might imagine.8bitagent wrote:"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the Field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere -- so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive -- that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."
-Woodrow Wilson
Following the link in the wiki article and reading further makes the context pretty mundane by comparison to the dramatic, Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.wikiquote wrote:Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.
They know that America is not a place of which it can be said, as it used to be, that a man may choose his own calling and pursue it just as far as his abilities enable him to pursue it; because to-day, if he enters certain fields, there are organizations which will use means against him that will prevent his building up a business which they do not want to have built up; organizations that will see to it that the ground is cut from under him and the markets shut against him. For if he begins to sell to certain retail dealers, to any retail dealers, the monopoly will refuse to sell to those dealers, and those dealers, afraid, will not buy the new man's wares. Section I: “The Old Order Changeth”, p. 13.
No. He was appealing to then-current antitrust/anti-big-business sentiment in the course of a political campaign. And....If he meant anyone/anything more specific, my best guess would be that it was U.S. Steel. But I'm not very confident about that. Or, really, about what he meant, ftm. What he said is totally compatible with straight-up Progressive-Era-legacy politicking of a completely non-cryptic nature, though. It would have been kinda middle-of-the-road at that time.brainpanhandler wrote: I guess I still wonder if he wasn't talking about something else. I mean maybe that's just the style then or it was Wilson's style to be so melodramatic. I don't think it was code for jewish bankers as upon a brief search it doesn't appear Wilson was antisemitic. Was he?
Yeah, they're cheesey but I kind of like those "Secret Histories" documentaries(like Eye of the Phoenix) that came out a few years ago... Not only were many of the founders of the United States government Masons, but they received aid from a secret and august body existing in Europe which helped them to establish this country for a peculiar and particular purpose known only to the initiated few. The Great Seal is the signature of this exalted body—unseen and for the most part unknown—and the unfinished pyramid upon its reverse side is a trestleboard setting forth symbolically the task to the accomplishment of which the United States Government was dedicated from the day of its inception.
kennedy wrote:The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know.
President Kennedy speaks at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York City before the American Newspaper Publishers Association. Kennedy asks the press for their cooperation in fighting Communism by applying the same standards for publishing sensitive materials in the current Cold War that they would apply in an officially declared war.
http://millercenter.org/president/speeches/detail/3677
Are there any satisfactory answers in this thread? I mean absence of proof really isn't proof of absence, but the reification fallacy is definitely not helpful as anything other than a thought experiment. I'm also guilty of using the "they" and "them" you-know-who monikers as much as anyone around here I suppose, but that's so I can avoid using NWO.nathan28 wrote:whoa, hold on
you guys know you are playing the reification game, right?
who is the the "NWO"? I don't know, but I'm thinking maybe it can be you or me, what with the clusterfuck going on out there right now.
i'm not saying there isn't a shadowy conspiracy out there. i'm saying let's take a deep breath and ignore the boogeyman for a moment or two, to clear our heads
looks like they're doing a pretty good job so far of reaching their goals.May 1, 1776 – Adam Weishaupt (code named Spartacus) establishes a secret society called the Order of the Illuminati. Weishaupt is the Professor of Canon Law at the University of Ingolstadt in Bavaria, part of Germany. The Illuminati seek to establish a New World Order. Their objectives are as follows:
1) Abolition of all ordered governments
2) Abolition of private property
3) Abolition of inheritance
4) Abolition of patriotism
5) Abolition of the family
6) Abolition of religion
7) Creation of a world government