Re: Cables Shine Light Into Secret Diplomatic Channels WIKI!
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:51 pm
Wikileaks and the Vatican.
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WikiLeaks: Pope's offer to Anglicans risked 'violence against Catholics'
British ambassador warned that pontiff's invitation to disaffected Anglicans to convert left relations with Vatican at 150-year low
Heather Brooke, Andrew Brown and Robert Booth
The Guardian, Saturday 11 December 2010
WikiLeaks cables describe a meeting between Pope Benedict XVI and the archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, in November 2009 as 'at times awkward'. Photograph: AFP/Getty Images
The British ambassador to the Vatican warned that Pope Benedict XVI's invitation to Anglican opponents of female priests to convert en masse to Catholicism was so inflammatory that it might lead to discrimination and even violence against Catholics in Britain, according to a secret US diplomatic cable.
Talking to an American diplomat after the archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, met the pope in November 2009, Francis Campbell said the surprise Vatican move had placed Williams "in an impossible situation" and "Anglican-Vatican relations were facing their worst crisis in 150 years as a result of the pope's decision"...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/de ... -catholics
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WikiLeaks cables: Vatican refused to engage with child sex abuse inquiry
Leaked cable lays bare how Irish government was forced to grant Vatican officials immunity from testifying to Murphy commission
Heather Brooke
The Guardian, Saturday 11 December 2010
A WikiLeaks cable details the behind-the-scenes diplomacy before Cardinal Seán Brady met Pope Benedict XVI in Rome, after which the pope said he shared the 'outrage, betrayal and shame' of Irish Catholics. Photograph: Tony Gentile/Reuters
The Vatican refused to allow its officials to testify before an Irish commission investigating the clerical abuse of children and was angered when they were summoned from Rome, US embassy cables released by WikiLeaks reveal.
Requests for information from the 2009 Murphy commission into sexual and physical abuse by clergy "offended many in the Vatican" who felt that the Irish government had "failed to respect and protect Vatican sovereignty during the investigations", a cable says.
Despite the lack of co-operation from the Vatican, the commission was able to substantiate many of the claims and concluded that some bishops had tried to cover up abuse, putting the interests of the Catholic church ahead of those of the victims. Its report identified 320 people who complained of child sexual abuse between 1975 and 2004 in the Dublin archdiocese.
A cable entitled "Sex abuse scandal strains Irish-Vatican relations, shakes up Irish church, and poses challenges for the Holy See" claimed that Vatican officials also believed Irish opposition politicians were "making political hay" from the situation by publicly urging the government to demand a reply from the Vatican.
Ultimately, the Vatican secretary of state, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone (equivalent to a prime minister), wrote to the Irish embassy, ordering that any requests related to the investigation must come through diplomatic channels.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/de ... intcmp=239
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WikiLeaks cables: Pope wanted Muslim Turkey kept out of EU
Vatican diplomats also lobbied against Venezuela's Hugo Chávez and wanted 'Christian roots' enshrined in EU constitution
Heather Brooke and Andrew Brown
guardian.co.uk, Friday 10 December 2010 21.30 GMT
A WikiLeaks cable reports that Pope Benedict XVI, seen here being received by Turkish prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan in Ankara in 2006, 'might prefer to see Turkey develop a special relationship short of EU membership'. Photograph: Dylan Martinez/AFP/Getty Images
The pope is responsible for the Vatican's growing hostility towards Turkey joining the EU, previously secret cables sent from the US embassy to the Holy See in Rome claim.
In 2004 Cardinal Ratzinger, the future pope, spoke out against letting a Muslim state join, although at the time the Vatican was formally neutral on the question.
The Vatican's acting foreign minister, Monsignor Pietro Parolin, responded by telling US diplomats that Ratzinger's comments were his own rather than the official Vatican position.
The cable released by WikiLeaks shows that Ratzinger was the leading voice behind the Holy See's unsuccessful drive to secure a reference to Europe's "Christian roots" in the EU constitution. The US diplomat noted that Ratzinger "clearly understands that allowing a Muslim country into the EU would further weaken his case for Europe's Christian foundations".
But by 2006 Parolin was working for Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict XVI, and his tone had distinctly chilled. "Neither the pope nor the Vatican have endorsed Turkey's EU membership per se," he told the American charge d'affaires, "rather, the Holy See has been consistently open to accession, emphasising only that Turkey needs to fulfil the EU's Copenhagen criteria to take its place in Europe."
But he did not expect the demands on religious freedom to be fulfilled: "One great fear is that Turkey could enter the EU without having made the necessary advances in religious freedom. [Parolin] insisted that EU members – and the US – continue to press the [Turkish government] on these issues … He said that short of 'open persecution', it couldn't get much worse for the Christian community in Turkey."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/de ... -eu-muslim
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more vatican cables here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-emba ... nts/203608
Cable: Future pope objects to EU membership for Muslim Turkey
Cable: Vatican softens towards Turkish EU bid
Cable: Vatican 'helped secure release' of British sailors captured by Iran
Cable: Vatican backs US call for 'human cloning ban'
Cable: Vatican promises to use its influence to back Copenhagen climate deal
Cable: Vatican hoped that Poland would 'hold the family line' in the EU
Cable: Vatican's 'active and influential' role at UN general assembly
Cable: Diplomat reveals Vatican's 'unhelpful' role in Middle East peace process
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US embassy cables: Future pope objects to EU membership for Muslim Turkey
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WikiLeaks: Pope's offer to Anglicans risked 'violence against Catholics'
British ambassador warned that pontiff's invitation to disaffected Anglicans to convert left relations with Vatican at 150-year low
Heather Brooke, Andrew Brown and Robert Booth
The Guardian, Saturday 11 December 2010
WikiLeaks cables describe a meeting between Pope Benedict XVI and the archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, in November 2009 as 'at times awkward'. Photograph: AFP/Getty Images
The British ambassador to the Vatican warned that Pope Benedict XVI's invitation to Anglican opponents of female priests to convert en masse to Catholicism was so inflammatory that it might lead to discrimination and even violence against Catholics in Britain, according to a secret US diplomatic cable.
Talking to an American diplomat after the archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, met the pope in November 2009, Francis Campbell said the surprise Vatican move had placed Williams "in an impossible situation" and "Anglican-Vatican relations were facing their worst crisis in 150 years as a result of the pope's decision"...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/de ... -catholics
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WikiLeaks cables: Vatican refused to engage with child sex abuse inquiry
Leaked cable lays bare how Irish government was forced to grant Vatican officials immunity from testifying to Murphy commission
Heather Brooke
The Guardian, Saturday 11 December 2010
A WikiLeaks cable details the behind-the-scenes diplomacy before Cardinal Seán Brady met Pope Benedict XVI in Rome, after which the pope said he shared the 'outrage, betrayal and shame' of Irish Catholics. Photograph: Tony Gentile/Reuters
The Vatican refused to allow its officials to testify before an Irish commission investigating the clerical abuse of children and was angered when they were summoned from Rome, US embassy cables released by WikiLeaks reveal.
Requests for information from the 2009 Murphy commission into sexual and physical abuse by clergy "offended many in the Vatican" who felt that the Irish government had "failed to respect and protect Vatican sovereignty during the investigations", a cable says.
Despite the lack of co-operation from the Vatican, the commission was able to substantiate many of the claims and concluded that some bishops had tried to cover up abuse, putting the interests of the Catholic church ahead of those of the victims. Its report identified 320 people who complained of child sexual abuse between 1975 and 2004 in the Dublin archdiocese.
A cable entitled "Sex abuse scandal strains Irish-Vatican relations, shakes up Irish church, and poses challenges for the Holy See" claimed that Vatican officials also believed Irish opposition politicians were "making political hay" from the situation by publicly urging the government to demand a reply from the Vatican.
Ultimately, the Vatican secretary of state, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone (equivalent to a prime minister), wrote to the Irish embassy, ordering that any requests related to the investigation must come through diplomatic channels.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/de ... intcmp=239
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WikiLeaks cables: Pope wanted Muslim Turkey kept out of EU
Vatican diplomats also lobbied against Venezuela's Hugo Chávez and wanted 'Christian roots' enshrined in EU constitution
Heather Brooke and Andrew Brown
guardian.co.uk, Friday 10 December 2010 21.30 GMT
A WikiLeaks cable reports that Pope Benedict XVI, seen here being received by Turkish prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan in Ankara in 2006, 'might prefer to see Turkey develop a special relationship short of EU membership'. Photograph: Dylan Martinez/AFP/Getty Images
The pope is responsible for the Vatican's growing hostility towards Turkey joining the EU, previously secret cables sent from the US embassy to the Holy See in Rome claim.
In 2004 Cardinal Ratzinger, the future pope, spoke out against letting a Muslim state join, although at the time the Vatican was formally neutral on the question.
The Vatican's acting foreign minister, Monsignor Pietro Parolin, responded by telling US diplomats that Ratzinger's comments were his own rather than the official Vatican position.
The cable released by WikiLeaks shows that Ratzinger was the leading voice behind the Holy See's unsuccessful drive to secure a reference to Europe's "Christian roots" in the EU constitution. The US diplomat noted that Ratzinger "clearly understands that allowing a Muslim country into the EU would further weaken his case for Europe's Christian foundations".
But by 2006 Parolin was working for Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict XVI, and his tone had distinctly chilled. "Neither the pope nor the Vatican have endorsed Turkey's EU membership per se," he told the American charge d'affaires, "rather, the Holy See has been consistently open to accession, emphasising only that Turkey needs to fulfil the EU's Copenhagen criteria to take its place in Europe."
But he did not expect the demands on religious freedom to be fulfilled: "One great fear is that Turkey could enter the EU without having made the necessary advances in religious freedom. [Parolin] insisted that EU members – and the US – continue to press the [Turkish government] on these issues … He said that short of 'open persecution', it couldn't get much worse for the Christian community in Turkey."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/de ... -eu-muslim
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more vatican cables here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-emba ... nts/203608
Cable: Future pope objects to EU membership for Muslim Turkey
Cable: Vatican softens towards Turkish EU bid
Cable: Vatican 'helped secure release' of British sailors captured by Iran
Cable: Vatican backs US call for 'human cloning ban'
Cable: Vatican promises to use its influence to back Copenhagen climate deal
Cable: Vatican hoped that Poland would 'hold the family line' in the EU
Cable: Vatican's 'active and influential' role at UN general assembly
Cable: Diplomat reveals Vatican's 'unhelpful' role in Middle East peace process
Related:
WikiLeaks cables: Pope wanted Muslim Turkey kept out of EU
10 Dec 2010
US embassy cables: Vatican promises to use its influence to back Copenhagen climate deal
10 Dec 2010
US embassy cables: Vatican backs US call for 'human cloning ban'
10 Dec 2010
US embassy cables: Future pope objects to EU membership for Muslim Turkey
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