Huge explosion in Oslo

[Harvey]

Get the media focus, then keep the show going.

[sunny]

Breaking news: gunmen dressed as police shooting at children at a summer camp outside Oslo.

Oh dear god.

[Harvey]

Norwegian PM was supposed to be at the youth rally "For some reason he didn't attend..."

[AhabsOtherLeg]

Breaking news: gunmen dressed as police shooting at children at a summer camp outside Oslo.

This is terrible. Sounds like something from the Brabant Massacres era.

[MacCruiskeen]

Norwegian paper confirms four dead [On Edit: no, sorry, they report it as an unconfirmed rumour] in an ongoing incident at a youth camp on the island of Utøya. Some of the kids are swimming away from the island. Apparently the gunman is still on the loose, in the woods, wearing a police uniform and armed with a machine pistol.

Article in Dagbladet

Google translate



Wiki:

Utøya is an island in Tyrifjorden in Hole municipality, in the county of Buskerud, Norway.

Utøya is owned by the political youth party Workers' Youth League (Arbeidernes ungdomsfylking), which holds a summer camp there. The island was given as a commemorative gift during August 1950 by Oslo og Omegn faglige samorganisasjonen (Oslo Trade Union Confederation), a cooperative body for the main professional organizations. Utøya can also be hired as a camp site and for events. The island is operated commercially by Utøya AS.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ut%C3%B8ya

[barracuda]

Unconfirmed reports say Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg had been due to attend the camp and former Prime Minister Gro Harlem Brundtland had been due to attend the Labour Party youth meeting on Friday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14254705

[semper occultus]

quite a few neo-nazi / black-metal style lunatics in that part of the world..maybe some cell of white-wolves decided to get ambitous or got infiltrated

Terror squad foil video bombs blitz

David Copeland

Terror threat now ‘more serious’

February 28, 2011

www.newsinenglish

Islamic fundamentalists, right-wing extremists and foreign spies pose the greatest threats to Norway’s safety in 2011, the state police intelligence unit PST (Politiets sikkerhetstjeneste) declared on Monday. PST’s boss and a government minister also lobbied hard for adoption of a controversial EU data storage initiative, to help fight terrorism.

PST chief Janne Kristiansen said there are few persons in Norway who support Islamic or right-wing extremists. Those who do, though, are forming firmer ties to contacts overseas.

“In that way, extreme Islam in Norway is steadily becoming more similar to that internationally,” Kristiansen said at a press conference Monday. She called the terrorism overview in Norway “complex,” sharpening the threat it poses.

PST investigators pointed to an increasing level of expressions of radicalism in public and not least in social media. There’s also more travel to areas of conflict for training or battle. PST also believes Islamic fundamentalists in Norway have more global ties than previously.

“Persons tied to radical Islamic groups have traveled to Afghanistan or Pakistan and we have reason to believe they have been in training camps or taken part in battles there,” Kristiansen said. “That raises the chances of terrorist actions in Norway.”

Meanwhile, neither right- nor left-wing extremists pose a serious threat in Norway, but right-wing extremism is rising. “Neo-nazis aren’t a big treat, but we have seen some increased activity,” she said. Meanwhile, other countries are spying on Norway, in hopes of influencing defense and security policies, the oil and gas sector and high technology, PST officials believe.

Both Kristiansen and Defense Minister Grete Faremo, who also is serving as acting Justice Minister since Knut Storberget is on parental leave, used the opportunity to urge support for the EU’s controversial data storage initiative. It would require retention of traffic from all Internet and mobile phone users.

“To meet new terrorism threats the police have asked for access to information about who suspected terrorists have contacted on the phone, through text messages or e-mail,” Faremo said. “The police need the historic data to prevent and fight terror.”

Critics of the initiative, who fear it will impose on personal privacy, accused Faremo and Kristiansen of using scare tactics to get the measure passed in Parliament. It comes up for a vote on April 5, and may result in Norway’s first veto of an EU resolution.

[Harvey]

Conspicuous lack of timing for all these events being reported as far as I can tell.

[Stephen Morgan]

They got the fake killer-cop.

[Stephen Morgan]

Definite second explosion, according to the grauniad:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/20 ... e#block-18
who have footage at the link.

Being attributed to "Helpers of the Global Jihad". I do like a nice descriptive name for my terrorist cells.

Actually, that Grauniad footage looks like a dust plume from some sort of rubble collapsing to me.

Am I the only one who thinks that island looks a bit small to have 700 people on it? I don't think you could stack that many on it.

Police say the bomber was foreign, but witnesses say the shooter "looked Norwegian", being a tall blonde man.

[MacCruiskeen]

Definite second explosion, according to the grauniad:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/20 ... e#block-18
who have footage at the link.

It's a fake:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbCCR3YK ... r_embedded

[Stephen Morgan]

If someone would like to email haroon.siddique@guardian.co.uk to inform him of his gullibility...

[12#4]

So with skill the posters so far have shown there are now multiple subplots in this tragedy. I will attempt to recap my understanding without citation, possibly as placeholder for a more rigourous timeline:

-Explosions kill 2 and injure 15. Targets a government district near PM's office, Ministry of Finance, Oil & Gas Ministry. Source
-Explosions follow within 4 days of announcement of Norweigan government support for Palestian statehood. viewtopic.php?p=415050#p415050
-Explosions follow over a week after of announcement of charges against founder of Kurdish group Ansar al-Islam and just over a year after supposed Al-Qaida plot broken up viewtopic.php?p=415062#p415062
-Explosion follows just 3 months after condemnation by Alan Dershowitz in Canadian daily regarding Norway's alleged Pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel stance viewtopic.php?p=415059#p415059
-As with 9/11 and other mysterious attacks stories of confusion and other bizarre incidents, including shootings at a children's camp affiliated with the Labor half ruling coaliton viewtopic.php?p=415079#p415079
-Reportage similar to 9/11 regarding government officials making scheduled appearance changes on the day of the attacks.
-"Unknown group" (the editor must have left out the word previously) with well translated English name Helpers of the Global Jihad cited by UK Guardian as claiming responsibility for the attacks. Source

[annie aronburg]

Am I the only one who thinks that island looks a bit small to have 700 people on it?

Yes, you are.

[Harvey]

Can't find any information on Jihaddy Helpers, or 'Andrew Boyle' of Norways NRK http://nrk.no/ who apparently reported the attribution, previous to today.

@12#4 Good idea.