Re: Lucid Dreaming
Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:16 am
Reading of Aurataur's experience has prompted me to say something about lucid dreams in the context of what and who is having the experience. I understand this is a very important subject for reasons I mention. However I thought I'd offer some background about dreams in general that I've experienced in life. If you are not interested in this then skip over it and go straight to Lucid Dreams.
I kept a dream diary for about 10 years and periodically reaxamined them for dream content, anniversary dates, etc.. I found out many things. for example there were certain themes that repeated themselves on anniversaries and things like that. This was particualrly evident with respect to times in my life where I had been through some heavy drama, emotional pain, etc.. I could just about predict the periods when I was most likely to go through a period of nightmarish sleep, as it generally could be linked to an aniversay date of a life event of memorable proportinons.
When it came to prescient dreams, I was able to be quite good at recognizing during the days events, those situations that had been played out beforehand in my dreams. The dreams I had in the last couple of hours brfore waking were the ones that generally represented events that I would experience during the day. Interestingly, they play backwards. The dream just before waking was the one that would be the first event of the day, and the earlier the dream the later in the day one would expect the event to occur.
On pause for a moment, I don't want to give you the impression that this was happening every day and night, I'm just giving you an idea of the sorts of experiences and observations that occurred over a very long period.
One of the most repetitive prescient dreams that I could know with almost 90% accuracy was going to happen was those involving fishing.There was a period when I went fishing with a friend about twice a week. We both noticed that we often had fish dreams the night before, and since I kept the dream diary, I was able to record the synchronicity of the 'catching a fish' dream, and the actual catching the fish next day. When my friend would come to pick me up, the first thing we shared was,..."did you have any fish dreams?" If neither of us had had any, one could be quite sure that we wouldn't catch any. Otoh, on days when the dreams were full of catching fish, we caught heaps. Most times one could also tell from the dream the type of fish,.. bream, whiting, etc.. from the fish's appearance in the dream, shiny, large, small, etc., If the dream involved as it sometime did a crab, then certainly an actual event happened involving a crab.
Lucid Dreams
But from the mundane prescient dreams to the bizarre lucid dreams of being on a space ship, meeting with aliens, heavenly beings, Buddhas, etc., this is what I can say with a fairly high degree of confidence of being a fair approximation of what is involved.
Interpenetrating the physical body is an astral double (doppelgänger). Our waking state consciousness is self refereneced in time and 3D space as we conceptualize the environmentaal reality presented to our senses, but in lucid dreaming, the astral double actually leaves the physicial and can travel elsewhere in the astral plane and be involved with other entities. Some of these maybe the astral doubles of incarnate people, or they may be astral forms of discarnate entities, or entites who have evolved beyond the human kingdom and have a permanent form on the astral level..
Now when one has a lucid dream involving the astral realm , it is a gross error to imagine on waking that 'you' the consciousn person had the experience. It didn't, nor can it for the body was laid out in bed and didn't move.
So this is what I say, that I Ben, the ego, persona, has never left this body and never will as it is an integral of the physical body. It is the astral double and the higher consciousness associated with it that leaves the body in lucid dreams and has the experience that registers/imprints on the physical brain the impressions related to the events in the astral world, and that are subsequently framed as an ego experience on awakening and remembered. That is the error, the framing of the lucid dream's content as involving the now awake 'dreamer'. It actually wasn't a dream to higher consciousness, it was real, but not real for the ego except as a lucid dream.
I have never met an alien in my dream state, but I have the recollection of my higher self meeting an alien in my dream state. It has further been explained to me to never permit the ego to claim the experience of astral events, for it is the road to confusion and retardation of the evoltionary unfoldment.
That incidently is why I think that the mystical traditions warn against all attempts by mortals to practice necromancy, persue powers involving astral energies, siddhis, etc..
I kept a dream diary for about 10 years and periodically reaxamined them for dream content, anniversary dates, etc.. I found out many things. for example there were certain themes that repeated themselves on anniversaries and things like that. This was particualrly evident with respect to times in my life where I had been through some heavy drama, emotional pain, etc.. I could just about predict the periods when I was most likely to go through a period of nightmarish sleep, as it generally could be linked to an aniversay date of a life event of memorable proportinons.
When it came to prescient dreams, I was able to be quite good at recognizing during the days events, those situations that had been played out beforehand in my dreams. The dreams I had in the last couple of hours brfore waking were the ones that generally represented events that I would experience during the day. Interestingly, they play backwards. The dream just before waking was the one that would be the first event of the day, and the earlier the dream the later in the day one would expect the event to occur.
On pause for a moment, I don't want to give you the impression that this was happening every day and night, I'm just giving you an idea of the sorts of experiences and observations that occurred over a very long period.
One of the most repetitive prescient dreams that I could know with almost 90% accuracy was going to happen was those involving fishing.There was a period when I went fishing with a friend about twice a week. We both noticed that we often had fish dreams the night before, and since I kept the dream diary, I was able to record the synchronicity of the 'catching a fish' dream, and the actual catching the fish next day. When my friend would come to pick me up, the first thing we shared was,..."did you have any fish dreams?" If neither of us had had any, one could be quite sure that we wouldn't catch any. Otoh, on days when the dreams were full of catching fish, we caught heaps. Most times one could also tell from the dream the type of fish,.. bream, whiting, etc.. from the fish's appearance in the dream, shiny, large, small, etc., If the dream involved as it sometime did a crab, then certainly an actual event happened involving a crab.
Lucid Dreams
But from the mundane prescient dreams to the bizarre lucid dreams of being on a space ship, meeting with aliens, heavenly beings, Buddhas, etc., this is what I can say with a fairly high degree of confidence of being a fair approximation of what is involved.
Interpenetrating the physical body is an astral double (doppelgänger). Our waking state consciousness is self refereneced in time and 3D space as we conceptualize the environmentaal reality presented to our senses, but in lucid dreaming, the astral double actually leaves the physicial and can travel elsewhere in the astral plane and be involved with other entities. Some of these maybe the astral doubles of incarnate people, or they may be astral forms of discarnate entities, or entites who have evolved beyond the human kingdom and have a permanent form on the astral level..
Now when one has a lucid dream involving the astral realm , it is a gross error to imagine on waking that 'you' the consciousn person had the experience. It didn't, nor can it for the body was laid out in bed and didn't move.
So this is what I say, that I Ben, the ego, persona, has never left this body and never will as it is an integral of the physical body. It is the astral double and the higher consciousness associated with it that leaves the body in lucid dreams and has the experience that registers/imprints on the physical brain the impressions related to the events in the astral world, and that are subsequently framed as an ego experience on awakening and remembered. That is the error, the framing of the lucid dream's content as involving the now awake 'dreamer'. It actually wasn't a dream to higher consciousness, it was real, but not real for the ego except as a lucid dream.
I have never met an alien in my dream state, but I have the recollection of my higher self meeting an alien in my dream state. It has further been explained to me to never permit the ego to claim the experience of astral events, for it is the road to confusion and retardation of the evoltionary unfoldment.
That incidently is why I think that the mystical traditions warn against all attempts by mortals to practice necromancy, persue powers involving astral energies, siddhis, etc..
