Ha, I had a French-Canadian friend who got "where?" twice from a Minnesota border guard because she pronounced Grand Marais correctly.
"Ohhh, Gryand Murray, ok."
You can puzzle and upset football fans everywhere by pronouncing Notre Dame correctly too.
Gawker.com outs Wall St genius "conspiracy" theorist
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Re: Gawker.com outs Wall St genius "conspiracy" theorist
They wanted explicit answers. I'm not sure why, perhaps they thought it strange that I was staying overnight alone. I'm also not sure how it triggered anything aside from that they were typing the entire time I was parked at the little guard house thingie. Given that the site itself is likely observed there could well have been some digital foreknowledge of potential troublemakers coming to visit that the computer recognized or somehow cross referenced with my passport. I don't go to a lot of trouble to disguise my identity online. I'm mostly just happy that I had decided to avoid my usual habit of bringing marijuana with me on my visit because I had very confused dogs in my car that day.
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Re: Gawker.com outs Wall St genius "conspiracy" theorist
JackRiddler » 03 Oct 2016 08:30 wrote:My pre-2006 work on 9/11 is still mostly online, although I distanced myself altogether from what by then had become the "truther" cult and Alex Jones Fan Club, or at best a bet that a politically decontextualized belief in the provability of "demolition" was worthwhile. Sort of like Mr. Wells, by the way.
I didn't say people don't pay a price or get threats or get placed on watch lists or get subjected to (enhanced as opposed to general) surveillance for the mere expression of various kinds of non-conformist or non-normative opinions, such as beliefs that JFK was murdered in a coup d'etat or that 9/11 was orchestrated or facilitated by elements within the US government.
I was responding specifically to the paranoid idea, expressed reflexively above, that Gorton (who has exceptional life-security thanks to his wealth and particular business model, which is predatory/parasitic and not dependent on good relations with either other businesses or a consuming public, although of course he is still mortal) put his life as such in a special danger by sending that particular e-mail circular to his employees. I'm certain the chances are incomparably higher of his making enemies and being endangered due to his "genius" business, of extracting 0.1% or whatever of the profit out of real time equity market transactions.
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It's not the private email list with his employees that'd cause him trouble, it's him being outed and then the reading and thinking public seeing that 9/11 conspiracies are something a smart, rich, sane person could take seriously. That social cue could give the Perps That Be more anxiety than yet another brand new discovery on top of the thousands that have been compiled for 15 years to no great effect since the Cooperative Research days. Someone like Gorton vouching for 9/11 conspiracy theories is more troublesome for the pathocrats than the leader of the 9/11 truth movement in New York organizing street demonstrations, yes?
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Re: Gawker.com outs Wall St genius "conspiracy" theorist
Possibly.
As you know, huge numbers don't believe the official story anyway, and you've got a thousand probably real architects and engineers in that A&E group, not getting very far. The doubts and protests of so many of the family members didn't seem to swing things, either, though they made a splash and got the Commission in the first place. Exposure needs concerted media presence of the kind that costs billions, and then it still has to come across as sane. Gorton makes a classic mistake of just loading up his narrative with everything, which makes for grand coherence but exposes it to incredulity, as well as the likelihood of unintentionally including poison pills.
I doubt anything will have that effect short of government disclosure. Ha, as if. Nothing can possibly have the effect of officially admitted evidence -- what's already out there from JICI and 9/11 CR docs should be close to enough, as Fenton's book e.g. shows -- plus constant repetition of same. Both have to happen, of course, or else you've got a situation like today, where its a solid story that the Iraq occupation under Petraeus hired a UK PR firm to manufacture and distribute fake "al Qaeda" propaganda, and it's getting no coverage.
Or else a whole passel of characters a lot bigger than Gorton. He's not exactly a household name, and HFT as far as it's known is correctly seen as a legalized front-running scam. Mark Cuban at one point was looking like he was backing an edition of Loose Change (sigh, but anyway), then backed off double-quick. I can believe he'd think that he was endangering himself, or even got a friendly spook-to-spook warning. Gorton, probably not. I know from experience that people wildly exaggerate the dangers of being public with non-exclusive, open source material. I had my share of people ask me if I was afraid, and heard many more ask others. It can happen, I suppose, but it's not that dangerous and I find it counter-productive as a response. It's the real whistleblowers who have the most to fear, obviously. Anyway, Gorton was not outed or exposed, that's Gawker making itself important. Gorton circulated this manifesto himself.
So, possibly. I think I know many wrong ways to do this, but it's not like I know the right one!
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As you know, huge numbers don't believe the official story anyway, and you've got a thousand probably real architects and engineers in that A&E group, not getting very far. The doubts and protests of so many of the family members didn't seem to swing things, either, though they made a splash and got the Commission in the first place. Exposure needs concerted media presence of the kind that costs billions, and then it still has to come across as sane. Gorton makes a classic mistake of just loading up his narrative with everything, which makes for grand coherence but exposes it to incredulity, as well as the likelihood of unintentionally including poison pills.
I doubt anything will have that effect short of government disclosure. Ha, as if. Nothing can possibly have the effect of officially admitted evidence -- what's already out there from JICI and 9/11 CR docs should be close to enough, as Fenton's book e.g. shows -- plus constant repetition of same. Both have to happen, of course, or else you've got a situation like today, where its a solid story that the Iraq occupation under Petraeus hired a UK PR firm to manufacture and distribute fake "al Qaeda" propaganda, and it's getting no coverage.
Or else a whole passel of characters a lot bigger than Gorton. He's not exactly a household name, and HFT as far as it's known is correctly seen as a legalized front-running scam. Mark Cuban at one point was looking like he was backing an edition of Loose Change (sigh, but anyway), then backed off double-quick. I can believe he'd think that he was endangering himself, or even got a friendly spook-to-spook warning. Gorton, probably not. I know from experience that people wildly exaggerate the dangers of being public with non-exclusive, open source material. I had my share of people ask me if I was afraid, and heard many more ask others. It can happen, I suppose, but it's not that dangerous and I find it counter-productive as a response. It's the real whistleblowers who have the most to fear, obviously. Anyway, Gorton was not outed or exposed, that's Gawker making itself important. Gorton circulated this manifesto himself.
So, possibly. I think I know many wrong ways to do this, but it's not like I know the right one!
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