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Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:07 pm**

Luther Blissett » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:49 pm wrote:One side is genocidal.

The other side wants them to stop being genocidal.

The middle wants to give the genocidal side a chance, just to see what happens.

and feelings. really really hurt feelings

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:12 pm**

This is no time for hurt feelings...this is no time to play nice

Trump has declared war on the America people declared war on the planet ....you can not win a war by playing nice

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:20 pm**

seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:12 pm wrote:This is no time for hurt feelings...this is no time to play nice

Trump has declared war on the America people declared war on the planet ....you can not win a war by playing nice

you just have to let go of your state slad. it can't do anything other than what it has been constructed to do. you are mentally lost in its maze, fighting from within it. it is completely irrelevant what anybody "feels" about it or the character of the people who run it. we are all rightists to the extent we engage with it. in fact it is your American patriotic duty to resist it.

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:20 pm**

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Searcher08-Nordic 2020! A New Program for The Left(tm).

- Censor and punish any speech that annoys Alt-Right Rationalists!

- Smash Liberal Arts education! Shut down the degenerate universities! Round up the SJWs!

- Micro-capitalist sleeping pills for the White Masses! Bitcoin! Sharing Pyramids!

- All Power to Big Data! Localize! Standards! Checklists not Chekists!

- No more talk-talk about war, energy, ecology, equality, democracy or justice! Let alone sex, race, or social class!

- Find the Jew in Control! Stop Him!

- Build the Peace and Love (tm) Tower! Uphold emotional intelligence!

- Send out witty funny sensitive guys like Sargon of Akkad to sell, sell, sell the Science!

- Always Be Closing(tm)!

- Find Your Inner White Victim!

Never mind, we've endorsed the Trump-Bannon 2020 Program! For The Left(tm)!

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Searcher08 » Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:35 am wrote:Focus on:
LETS systems;
Bitcoin;
Mesh networked internet;
Evidence-based policy
User driven tax allocation;
Localisation localisation localistion.
Systematic reverse globalisation.
Solari building.
Moving the 'resource based economy' conversation from theoretical concept to first stage practical detailed discussions
Getting Common Core scrapped asap
Removal of any form of federal funding for universities that indulge in trigger warning and safe space culture.
Incentivize STEM courses and create a Federal Bullshit Tax for all Pomo content courses.
Focus on equality of opportunity rather than equality of outcome
Back an 'International Colony on Mars by 2030' space shot
Acknowledge the difference between the Alt-Right and Rationalists (Sargon of Akkad types) and make principled engagement the new banner.

Make No-Platforming a jailable offense

Find people who are telegenic, funny, slightly outrageous, have a detailed yet concise fact-based approach and who are great debaters. A left version of Milo or Ben Shapiro, confident but free of arrogance.

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:24 pm**

Elihu » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:20 pm wrote:
seemslikeadream » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:12 pm wrote:This is no time for hurt feelings...this is no time to play nice

Trump has declared war on the America people declared war on the planet ....you can not win a war by playing nice
you just have to let go of your state slad. it can't do anything other than what it has been constructed to do. you are mentally lost in its maze, fighting from within it. it is completely irrelevant what anybody "feels" about it or the character of the people who run it. we are all rightists to the extent we engage with it. in fact it is your American patriotic duty to resist it.

you have no idea about my state of mind ..I am just fine.

I AM IN NO WAY MENTALLY LOST and I resent you accusing me

I KNOW Trump's character....I just don't "feel" it

resist does not mean sit back and take it

now I have to go find $1500.00 dollars for my daughter medicine for this month while you continue to psychoanalyze me

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:43 pm**

have to go find $1500.00 dollars for my daughter medicine for this month

where the rubber meets the road. pm an address, I'll do what i can.

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:47 pm**

Elihu » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:43 pm wrote:
have to go find $1500.00 dollars for my daughter medicine for this month
where the rubber meets the road. pm an address, I'll do what i can.

Oh no I didn't mention that because I need help. I would never ask for money here from anyone. It was said because I get a bit tired of other people here (not you) not realizing or caring that they are communicating with real people with real problems and I know I am not the only one. Sorry that it came off as a reply to you I didn't mean it to be....this has been a long long couple of months here, all the personal attacks have just wore me down causing me to say things in a rude way. Please accept my apology

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:20 pm**

No apology necessary, slad. If elihu had a uterus he'd feel much differently about many things, and would then understand at least one of your valid concerns as a woman with a misogynist president.

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:49 pm**

Luther, thanks for the link to the other thread. Of course the Left is not slowing down and will grow through necessity. I was more referring to the Left I imagined Nordic was referring to, the Democratic Party, which has progressively moved ideologically to the Right over the past 40 years.

At the same time we must recognize this 'move to the right' as a world-wide phenomena, and not unique to the US. For that very reason, it is a very bad time to call for a constitutional convention.

To effect true change we must abandon capitalism and replace it with another economic system, a sustainable circular economic model with minimum waste, where basic human needs are met, the ill and infirm are cared for and all are educated, are the paramount social concerns.

We all will be slaving for robots if we don't.

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:00 pm**

Is the Democratic party salvageable? I have grave doubts.

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:09 pm**

They'll survive. The Green Party will grow its membership with the disaffected Dems and more will become "unaffiliated" independent voters without a party membership. Just my feelings, and nothing more. But then, I thought Trump would lose and bring doom to the Republican Party.

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:11 pm**

I thought Trump would lose and bring doom to the Republican Party.

There's still plenty of time for that

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:14 pm**

^^^ Yeah, there's always Hope to hang on to. (the poor gal must be ragged these days!)

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:34 pm**

Trump won in many ways because he understands (or his peeps do, US & Russian) 1. Reality television culture and 2. The Internet.

Since Survivor and American Idol Americans like their tv, fast, crude, repetitive, humiliating and with clear losers and winners. They think that is reality. So someone in authority ("the judge") telling them bluntly over and over again so and so is a loser, criminal, liar, they will believe it. They can't grasp that so and so was dishonest about X, is the same as someone shouting "He's a Liar and a Loser!" So if no one does so, they think he's got to be ok, and especially if he's yelling that those accusing him are the losers, criminals, etc.
Obama used the internet, but he didn't really understand it. He just used it in campaigning, which was mind blowing at the time.
But Trump and Co had the internet work for them. It is the difference between pushing out web ads and converting freaks so they forward on your stuff to their friends, relatives, etc. Trump had fans and true believers, Clinton had supporters.

So, I think the Left needs to look at itself as a long running television show that most tune in out of duty than actual excitement. The Left is The Walking Dead. (Bernie actually was in many ways). But produced on a Public Broadcasting budget, with puppets.

I think then the Left has to reverse engineer Trump's victory and use it against him and capitalize on its weaknesses. Obama's victory doesn't have much traction or relevance anymore. His story really could fit into a 50 minute Lifetime movie. "The First African American President", the title has the whole plot there, and there really isn't much more there than that. This TV trope is what the Left, the ideological long runner, needs to examine.

We're Still Relevant, Dammit!

Suppose you've got yourself a Long Runner. And while your Long Runner hasn't really wavered in popularity, not significantly, you still want to connect with the youth of today. Perhaps you'd also like to comment on current pop-culture events as well.

Well, you'd better tread carefully or you might sound like you're just screaming, "We're Still Relevant, Dammit!"

The parent trope of both Totally Radical and Fad Super, this happens when a series that is gettin' old decides to make an attempt to stay current. Of-the-moment pop-culture references (that usually end up dated by the time the work of fiction makes its premiere) are certainly most common. The writers might also decide to radically change a character or create an "updated" Expy of an older character. A number of times a character has been made Darker and Edgier easily fit the bill. Another popular tactic is to make the character suddenly become a member of a newly emerged subculture, fandom, or similar group. The result, especially if the writer is not part of said subculture and doesn't do the research, is often laughably embarrassing instead of the bold new direction the producers were hoping for.

This often heralds the beginning of a Dork Age. Can very often result in an Unintentional Period Piece.

See also Popularity Polynomial, Mascot with Attitude, Discredited Meme, Follow the Leader, Two Decades Behind, Long-Runner Tech Marches On, Society Marches On, Jumping the Shark, Network Decay, Magazine Decay, Pretty Fly for a White Guy, and more than a few Scrappies and cases of Misaimed Marketing. Contrast Growing with the Audience.

Tropes Are Tools aside, this is usually a sign of bad writing, especially if you're a TV or movie writer trying to make your current long-running show more hip or trying to revive a long-dead franchise for a new generation. On the other hand, sometimes it works, and if the alternative is leaving your story looking decades out-of-date... The trick is to update the right things, update them the right way, and leave the timeless things that people liked about the franchise in the first place alone.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/M ... vantDammit

Posted: **Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:47 pm**

Iamwhomiam » Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:14 pm wrote:^^^ Yeah, there's always Hope to hang on to. (the poor gal must be ragged these days!)

Hope

Justice Dept. finds out Goooolini was behind the FBI Comey statement on email investigation

Impeachment of Trump

I believe both of these things will happen

never forget Nixon was re elected

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