Abolish the White Race - By Any Means Necessary

[dada]

White is just a state of mind.

I think it's the word 'race' in the thread title that gets people upset. If it said abolish whiteness, or abolish vanilla culture, I wonder if there would be a different reaction.

I'm guessing we aren't going to abolish the artifacts of the different European cultural heritages. Pasta, Jameson, German Beer, French wine, Beatles records, etc. Lots of people depend on the auras of the traditions to put food on the table and a roof over head.

My father's father and my mother's mother were both German. They both spoke German when they were growing up, but when I was growing up, there wasn't much German cultural stuff around me at all. My father's mother was Polish and Irish. She didn't wear it on her sleeve, either. My mother's father was Italian, and his side of the family identified culturally as Italian. I didn't, though. And my step-father, the biggest father-figure influence in my life, was a non-practicing Jew from the Bronx.

So I'm like a non-practicing Jew. Although for some reason I feel the most affinity for the Polish and Irish part of my dna. Don't know why that is.

Anyway, there was no point to this. Just typing some garbage before work. Sayonara.

[American Dream]

There is a saying amongst the Latin American diaspora, "La Cultura cura". I think non-assimilated roots cultures can have a positive role to play for all of us but that the identitarian level of Privilege Politics will never be enough, either.

[Novem5er]

White is just a state of mind.

I think it's the word 'race' in the thread title that gets people upset. If it said abolish whiteness, or abolish vanilla culture, I wonder if there would be a different reaction.

I'm guessing we aren't going to abolish the artifacts of the different European cultural heritages. Pasta, Jameson, German Beer, French wine, Beatles records, etc. Lots of people depend on the auras of the traditions to put food on the table and a roof over head.

My father's father and my mother's mother were both German. They both spoke German when they were growing up, but when I was growing up, there wasn't much German cultural stuff around me at all. My father's mother was Polish and Irish. She didn't wear it on her sleeve, either. My mother's father was Italian, and his side of the family identified culturally as Italian. I didn't, though. And my step-father, the biggest father-figure influence in my life, was a non-practicing Jew from the Bronx.

So I'm like a non-practicing Jew. Although for some reason I feel the most affinity for the Polish and Irish part of my dna. Don't know why that is.

Anyway, there was no point to this. Just typing some garbage before work. Sayonara.

I think a lot of us have similar experiences, especially here in America. Using Ancestry.com, we recently found out that our family is more Swiss and German than Irish and English. We've always celebrated our Irish-American culture, but in reality that mostly comes from a single man who gave us his surname three generations back, and the rest are from all over Europe.

Cultural Pride is a weird subject. For me, it's hard to justify anyone saying "white power" when, to me "whiteness" is so very hard to define. White New Yorkers from the Bronx are going to be very different, culturally, than whites from Mississippi. White power doesn't even make sense in that context, but both groups could rightly celebrate NYC and Southern culture respectively.

[Belligerent Savant]

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Abolish "white" people who call for the abolishment of their own race!

Curious: do any other races call for their own abolishment, or is that unique among "whites" only?

‎Calling to abolish -- what? A State of mind? A segment of the population that identifies as "white" (a criteria that is rendered meaningless once the concept of 'race' is deconstructed and stripped of its heavy layers. Another human construct. A badge/tag appropriated to identify/classify/separate physical beings)?

Yes - let's abolish all races and all badges. CLEANSE US from these IMPURE thoughts... and please, forgive us for we know not what we do.‎

[Iamwhomiam]

You do realize your life will one day be extinguished, too. So whaddaya worrying about?

[norton ash]

It is time for we whites to fall on our shrimp skewers and swizzle sticks I daresay.

[Sounder]

AD wrote...

but that the identitarian level of Privilege Politics will never be enough, either.

(Maybe I have no clue what 'the identitarian level of Privilege Politics will never be enough' is even referring too, and the following then makes no sense, if so please forgive me.)

Never be enough? Are you suggesting that some here believe in or promote Privilege Politics? Privilege politics is a sick thing, personally I do not like or think about 'whiteness' at all.

But here I am, thinking about whiteness. I do have some good stories about the means and methods used to keep people in their place. Race is an extra lever for abuse, but there are plenty of others coming from my long term experience with the working world.

The thing is, ya get the job by being the one that says they can do the job. Decisions, decisions, practice making decisions.

[Novem5er]

Mmm, shrimp.

As much as I empathize with struggling people all over the world, and have since childhood, I don't feel any particular guilt over their struggle. I've struggled, too. My parents struggled. I've been blessed by many things, for sure, but very little has been handed to me.

Guilt is for the powerful; for the people who can change things on a systemic level and chose not too.

An absence of guilt, however, is not the same as being unaware. I see institutional racism in a lot of places here. In addition, though, I see a lot of mistreatment of poor families. That seems to go across racial lines. Students from poor neighborhoods tend to do worse in our schools, get in more trouble, and have higher dropout rates. This affects the poor white kids, as well. The problem gets mixed in with race because a lot of minority neighborhoods here are poor, which is due to a host of other problems.

[KUAN]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvckocaVPNA

[American Dream]

My homeboys said it best. Also, exponents of Privilege Politics are basically the same people that far right partisans use to strawman leftist positions when they complain about "SJW's"....

[dada]

I hear that Dada and Surrealism faked their own deaths and are living now with new identities...

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"Damn. It's no use hiding it anymore, Eugene. Looks like they're on to us," says Cid.

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"What the hell are you talking about, Cid. He's just messing with you, reader. Do I look surreal to you?" says Eugene.

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"We having this friend, a purrety good plastic surgeon," explains Pixel.

[Luther Blissett]

These are two cool groups of working class Appalachian (mostly) people who believe themselves to be white working for class solidarity and to build class consciousness with people from other races:

https://kyworkers.org/

https://louisvillesocialists.org/

[Searcher08]

My homeboys said it best. Also, exponents of Privilege Politics are basically the same people that far right partisans use to strawman leftist positions when they complain about "SJW's"....

It is not just the far right and it is most certainly not a straw-person. The threat of SJW groupthink / safespace / microagression culture to freedom of speech is very real - the case of the treatment of Jordan Petersen is not a one off, it is pretty illustrative.
Segregating areas/ spaces because of race is coming back in vogue among those circles- and that is a Very Very Bad Thing.

I think MLK would have been rolling in his grave to see the Berkeley students refusing access for white students to cross a bridge but letting non-white through, all because "someone moved their "safe space"".

[dada]

Of course "SJW" is a straw person. The term "SJW" was coined specifically to be a straw person, with derogatory connotation. Feminists and progressives don't identify as social justice warriors. It's childish name-calling, and was invented by people who don't like them.

[Wombaticus Rex]

I think MLK would have been rolling in his grave to see the Berkeley students refusing access for white students to cross a bridge but letting non-white through, all because "someone moved their "safe space"".

I think dead people are dead, myself.