US Presidential Election 2024

[DrEvil]

It was a Nazi salute - look at the video. It's about as overtly fascist as you can get. And blaming it on autism is just... wow. Ableism and apologizing for Nazis in one go. Impressive, even for you.

[liminalOyster]

I strongly suspect that, if Musk were questioned on it, he'd claim the Roman salute was a real historical custom and the Nazis appropriated it. Meaning that he's probably more edgelord than anything else.

[Grizzly]

[Belligerent Savant]

It was a Nazi salute - look at the video. It's about as overtly fascist as you can get. And blaming it on autism is just... wow. Ableism and apologizing for Nazis in one go. Impressive, even for you.

The above is one of many clear-cut examples when I suspect you are either a troll dishing out Salon-esque base-level liberal talking-head stereotypes, or are earnestly mid-brow & hopelessly obtuse in your political takes.

Which is it? I don't think I'll ever know. I'd like to think you're a troll and don't actually subscribe to such low-brained rhetoric, but since ~2019 I no longer doubt the cowardice and stupidity of so many humans that simply don't realize their complicity in our current collective malaise. Many have become automatons, repeating narratives placed in front of them with no discernment.

No matter either way. There's far more worthwhile deliberations to ponder.

[DrEvil]

I've seen that picture of Harris floating around. They never post the video for some reason. Can't possibly be that it's obvious she's NOT doing a Nazi salute.

[DrEvil]

It was a Nazi salute - look at the video. It's about as overtly fascist as you can get. And blaming it on autism is just... wow. Ableism and apologizing for Nazis in one go. Impressive, even for you.

The above is one of many clear-cut examples when I suspect you are either a troll dishing out Salon-esque base-level liberal talking-head stereotypes, or are earnestly mid-brow & hopelessly obtuse in your political takes.

Which is it? I don't think I'll ever know. I'd like to think you're a troll and don't actually subscribe to such low-brained rhetoric, but since ~2019 I no longer doubt the cowardice and stupidity of so many humans that simply don't realize their complicity in our current collective malaise. Many have become automatons, repeating narratives placed in front of them with no discernment.

No matter either way. There's far more worthwhile deliberations to ponder.

Nice dodge. Pointing out facts is mere rhetoric, and can therefore safely be ignored. Your ability to ignore leopards eating your face is astounding. But go ahead, keep making excuses for the world's richest oligarch doing Nazi salutes at the White House. Nothing to see here. He probably didn't mean it. He was just being autistic, lol!

Oh, and congratulations on your gender-reassignment everyone.

No, really. You're officially all women now, thanks to Trump and his merry band of fascists not knowing the difference between "at conception" and "at birth". First day in office and he accidentally made half the country transgender. The next four years are going to be fun.

[DrEvil]

I strongly suspect that, if Musk were questioned on it, he'd claim the Roman salute was a real historical custom and the Nazis appropriated it. Meaning that he's probably more edgelord than anything else.

Most likely, but still... It's not the salute that's telling, but all the people going out of their way to excuse it and downplay it. If anyone is still in doubt as to what it was, here's a gif showing Musk next to Hitler's version:
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https% ... o6kee1.gif

[DrEvil]

Here's the actual footage of Harris from that picture posted upthread:
https://imgur.com/gallery/no-she-didn-t ... id-SrlX5p4

For anyone too lazy to click, it clearly shows that she's gesturing while talking, not making a Nazi salute (and frankly, you have to be pretty fucking dumb to think that Kamala Harris of all people would be doing it on a podium in front of cameras and an audience, or at all for that matter).

The clip also has the Musk version, where it's blatantly obvious what he's doing. He even does it twice, in case you missed it the first time.

[SonicG]

Arguing about the spazzing out of some autistic weirdo isn't really productive. Just last week or so, "Our Einstein"* was nodding his head along to the AfD candidate making the often rewashed claim that "Hitler was really a kah-muh-niist derp derp". Dude gets fooled by the lowest level "fake news" like the Venezuelan ballot box/air conditioner theft video ffs. He's no Bormann, I will tell you that.

I think Katie Halper's take is indeed the important point in all of this kerfuffle.
[youtube]tnORzGeA044?t=3129[/youtube]

* Jamie Dimon: “You’ve got to look at Elon, at SpaceX, Tesla, Neuralink – the guy is our Einstein. I'd like to be helpful to him and his companies as much as we can. "

[Elvis]

Jamie Dimon: “You’ve got to look at Elon, at SpaceX, Tesla, Neuralink – the guy is our Einstein.

Musk? Einstein?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y40RU5Nx6U


Jamie Dimon should be in prison.

[DrEvil]

Arguing about the spazzing out of some autistic weirdo isn't really productive. Just last week or so, "Our Einstein"* was nodding his head along to the AfD candidate making the often rewashed claim that "Hitler was really a kah-muh-niist derp derp". Dude gets fooled by the lowest level "fake news" like the Venezuelan ballot box/air conditioner theft video ffs. He's no Bormann, I will tell you that.

I think Katie Halper's take is indeed the important point in all of this kerfuffle.
[youtube]tnORzGeA044?t=3129[/youtube]

* Jamie Dimon: “You’ve got to look at Elon, at SpaceX, Tesla, Neuralink – the guy is our Einstein. I'd like to be helpful to him and his companies as much as we can. "

I agree we shouldn't be arguing about it, because doing a fucking Nazi salute shouldn't be something that's up for debate. It's bad, end of discussion, or at least it should be, except some people deem it urgent to defend it or try to explain it away.

As the saying goes: if you sit down at a table with ten Nazis, it's a table with eleven Nazis. Being against fascist fuckheads doing picture-perfect Hitler impersonations shouldn't be controversial, especially when they're one of the most powerful people in the world, but here we are.