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Tuesday, July 26, 2016
Why isn't this story in Western newspapers? "the rape of 41 Tunisian children by a French national"
"Minister of Justice Omar Mansour ordered the Public Prosecutor at the Court of First Instance in Sousse to initiate a criminal investigation into the rape of 41 Tunisian children by a French national. In a statement released Tuesday, the Justice Department called for the need to accelerate the execution of the letter rogatory issued by the French authorities to render justice to the victims. The jurors of the Assize Court of Yvelines (Paris) had condemned French aid worker Thierry Darantiere, 52, to 16 years in prison for having raped or sexually abused at least 66 boys, including 41 Tunisians." If this was an Arab immigrant who raped 41 children in some European country, there would be a flood of articles about "sexual frustration among the Arabs" and about "Islam and modernity" and about the need for sexual fatwas from Azhar and about how Arabs can't handle their sexual urges, etc. Just imagine. His name would be a headline in newspapers in all Western countries.
Posted by As'ad AbuKhalil
Today, on 2 August 2016 a street was blocked in Berlin, Germany at Schlesisches Tor, Köpenicker Str.. With chain-link fences activists blocked the road and hung out a banner reading “The deadliest border in the world - 3,000 deaths in the Mediterranean in 2016.” At the Metro bridge a banner was stretched “Open the borders - No border is forever!” With the action, the activists stand in solidarity with the refugees at the EU’s external borders as well as those who have made it to Europe.
Continues at: http://noisey.vice.com/blog/festivals-n ... heaga-2016MUSIC FESTIVALS NEED TO DO MORE TO PREVENT SEXUAL ASSAULTS
Melanie Doucet was enjoying Osheaga in Montreal a few weeks ago when she said she was drugged and could barely walk away, only to be brushed off by bystanders and later security who told her she should have watched over her drink. Doucet’s story is part of an appalling pattern. Just this year, 18 women reported being sexually assaulted at Schlossgrabenfest in Germany, five women reported rape at Bravalla festival in Sweden, another five reported they were sexually assaulted at Roskilde Festival in Denmark, and another woman reported she was sexually assaulted at WayHome Music and Arts Festival in Oro-Medonte, Ontario. “There's just so many different variables that don't come into play at gigs,” says Hannah Camilleri, co-founder of Girls Against, a UK-based campaign to raise awareness of and prevent sexual assault in the live music community. “There’s a much higher availability and consumption of alcohol which lowers everyone's inhibitions. You're also not returning to your own bed, you're making new friends, you're surrounded by so many more people. There's a lot more things that could wrong.”
When festival organizers, security guards, and bystanders are poorly educated on how to handle sexual assault cases or prevent it from even happening, rape culture persists and it implicitly tells men their behaviour is acceptable. In an extreme case, a security guard at T in the Park in Scotland admitted to sexually assaulting a 17-year-old girl at the festival in 2015. A security guard. When people in power can’t be relied on, women are discouraged from reporting. One researcher estimates that only 10 to 30 percent of sexual assault victims report it. When women are silenced, women aren’t safe. Education is needed at each these levels—festival staff, security, and fans—to confront sexual assault.
Uhhhh...Just this year, 18 women reported being sexually assaulted at Schlossgrabenfest in Germany, five women reported rape at Bravalla festival in Sweden, another five reported they were sexually assaulted at Roskilde Festival in Denmark, and another woman reported she was sexually assaulted at WayHome Music and Arts Festival in Oro-Medonte, Ontario.
Interesting that you went straight to Muslim when -- unless I'm failing to read properly? -- the story says absolutely nothing about the religious, racial, cultural or other identity of the alleged perpetrators of these crimes at rock festivals. That in turn suggests (although it also is not said) that they're of the majority culture, since normally a minority status gets worked in to such stories subtly or explicitly. And that would be AD's point, I think.FourthBase » Fri Aug 19, 2016 4:02 pm wrote:Uhhhh...Just this year, 18 women reported being sexually assaulted at Schlossgrabenfest in Germany, five women reported rape at Bravalla festival in Sweden, another five reported they were sexually assaulted at Roskilde Festival in Denmark, and another woman reported she was sexually assaulted at WayHome Music and Arts Festival in Oro-Medonte, Ontario.
What could festival organizers have done to prevent the rapes at Schlossgrabenfest and Bravalla? Ban young Muslim men from attending? Let them in, but forbid young Muslim men from travelling through the festival in groups?
I used this unprecedented trick called googling. It's amazing. You should try it sometime.JackRiddler » 19 Aug 2016 17:47 wrote:Interesting that you went straight to Muslim when -- unless I'm failing to read properly? -- the story says absolutely nothing about the religious, racial, cultural or other identity of the alleged perpetrators of these crimes at rock festivals. That in turn suggests (although it also is not said) that they're of the majority culture, since normally a minority status gets worked in to such stories subtly or explicitly. And that would be AD's point, I think.FourthBase » Fri Aug 19, 2016 4:02 pm wrote:Uhhhh...Just this year, 18 women reported being sexually assaulted at Schlossgrabenfest in Germany, five women reported rape at Bravalla festival in Sweden, another five reported they were sexually assaulted at Roskilde Festival in Denmark, and another woman reported she was sexually assaulted at WayHome Music and Arts Festival in Oro-Medonte, Ontario.
What could festival organizers have done to prevent the rapes at Schlossgrabenfest and Bravalla? Ban young Muslim men from attending? Let them in, but forbid young Muslim men from travelling through the festival in groups?
"Roving cliques" could also describe any gang rape, a phenomenon hardly restricted to the Muslim world.
And you could have said so, exactly as I do every time I do research here. I post the links for my claims. You laid a trap and I fell for it. Whee for you, dick.FourthBase » Fri Aug 19, 2016 6:13 pm wrote:I used this unprecedented trick called googling. It's amazing. You should try it sometime.
Yeah, it's my fault because although I consider rape an inexcusable crime, thanks to your magical mind reading powers you know that I approve of it when it's by Muslims, because of my communist training. Also, these soulless animals you perceive are amazingly sensitive to the opinions you project on me, which in reality are what motivates them when they rape. Fuck you.Maybe so brazen because the rapists feel especially empowered by putrid leftist hypocrites like you who would sooner let gangs of Muslims continue to rape women than ever let the right wing score a single point.
Bruh, it wasn't a "trap", it just never occurred to me that someone wouldn't take the 10-20 seconds it takes to google up a whiff of something's veracity if they happened to doubt me and my factualness which is also not something I generally expect because I can probably count on two hands the number of times in ten years I have posted something as factually incorrect as what you presumed I did. Last time was this year when I miswrote that Tsarnaev pleaded guilty and then Mac corrected me. But to be honest, I did smile and shake my head in anticipation of the opportunity to correct you. Yes, that was a dick move, and I relished it. I could've posted links to begin with. I could've posted links in the snide reply, too. But come on, we're all adults with phones that can retrieve a multitude of sources about almost any news fact in the world in 5 seconds and with brains that can roughly size up the factoid's actualness in another 5 seconds more or less depending on the confirmation bias involved. And: If they're links posted by FourthBase, you and a bunch of other people are going to treat them like hostile evidence, and if you are a diligent kind of argumentative asshole, you'd wind up doing your own googling anyway as a form of message board oppo research or cross examination or whatever you pretend this all is other than just a conversation, so me posting links would not really save you time, anyway...right? Not posting them...deprives you of the advantage of going second and coming over the top, I guess, if we're supposed to be rival gamesmen? Is that it, is that what annoys you? I relished being a dick, and I could've been a scholar and a gentleman instead, but I actually thought I was restrained, a 5 out of 10 on the Dick Scale, and I actually thought that coming over the top with the links themselves in the snide reply would've rated higher on the scale, not lower. That is what would've felt more like setting a trap. As it was, I was pissed off that you suggested I "went straight to Muslim" in the absence of evidence like some Breitbart comments section mouthbreather. My opinion of you is low, sure, but at least I give you credit for being intelligent.JackRiddler » 19 Aug 2016 19:12 wrote:And you could have said so, exactly as I do every time I do research here. I post the links for my claims. You laid a trap and I fell for it. Whee for you, dick.FourthBase » Fri Aug 19, 2016 6:13 pm wrote:I used this unprecedented trick called googling. It's amazing. You should try it sometime.
[Mods: No harm, no foul. I got no problem with being told "Fuck you", please don't scold Jack for it.]Yeah, it's my fault because although I consider rape an inexcusable crime, thanks to your magical mind reading powers you know that I approve of it when it's by Muslims, because of my communist training. Also, these soulless animals you perceive are amazingly sensitive to the opinions you project on me, which in reality are what motivates them when they rape. Fuck you.Maybe so brazen because the rapists feel especially empowered by putrid leftist hypocrites like you who would sooner let gangs of Muslims continue to rape women than ever let the right wing score a single point.
Of course this won't be put to bed, the incident that didn't happen will be cited again and again.But police investigating the crime now say that the allegations included in the article are “without foundation.”
According to the Frankfurter Rundschau, the witnesses who spoke to reporters may be investigated themselves. Bild has now deleted the story from its website. The paper's online editor in chief on Tuesday said that the company apologized “for our own work.”
Yeah thanks. I've kind of felt bad about starting this whole thread with the title I did. Perhaps it could be modified to reflect the fact that they were fictitious?Elvis » Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:13 am wrote:Thank you, Luther.
Of course this won't be put to bed, the incident that didn't happen will be cited again and again.But police investigating the crime now say that the allegations included in the article are “without foundation.”
According to the Frankfurter Rundschau, the witnesses who spoke to reporters may be investigated themselves. Bild has now deleted the story from its website. The paper's online editor in chief on Tuesday said that the company apologized “for our own work.”
What I want to know is: who planted these stories?
