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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:28 pm
by Cordelia
MacCruiskeen » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:10 pm wrote:It's a mistake anyone could make, after all. Nobody's perfect.

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Parking Garage, interior

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El Centro College, interior

Police Chief David 'DaDa' Brown wrote:"For days, we thought we had been negotiating with the cornered suspect in a gigantic windy neon-lit concrete shell half-filled with hundreds of parked automobiles. Only when the Fog of War finally cleared, four days later, did we realise we had in fact been negotiating with him in a narrow but tastefully-furnished college corridor lined with classrooms. Not a car in sight.sir, no. Not one. Yes, that's where we blew him up with a robot bomb, I think. In the corridor there. Or it might have been in a ladies' restroom or in the Mayor's office. And I'll thank you not to second-guess the police during what is a difficult and emotionally challenging time for all of us."


Exactly, just a communication error any high-ranking professional in a large metropolitan police department like Keystone Dallas.could easily make!

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Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:47 pm
by backtoiam
BLM Leader DeRay Mckesson Lives In Home Owned By Soros Open Society Board Member
Published July 13, 2016

The George Soros connections keep coming.

DeRay Mckesson of #Black Lives Matter fame has been outed by the American Mirror for his cozy living arrangements via the George Soros’ Open Society Institute.

#BlackLivesMatter leader DeRay Mckesson may claim to be leading a grassroots revolution for racial and economic justice, but he has close connections with the privileged and elite.

Mckesson lives in a home owned by philanthropists James and Robin Wood in Baltimore, Maryland.

It’s the same address he used when declaring his residency on his campaign committee registration https://campaignfinancemd.us/Public/Sho ... ypeCode=01 form for his failed mayoral run in the city’s Democratic primary earlier this year.

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The Woods have owned the home since 1996 and are wealthy donors to the Baltimore chapter of George Soros’ Open Society Institute.

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Robin is so active that she was made a board member of the far-left non-profit back in 2008, according to the OSI’s website. https://www.osibaltimore.org/author/robinjimmywood/

The OSI site describes the Williams:

They moved to Baltimore in 1995, when Jimmy had the opportunity to return to his hometown to become director of the orthopedic faculty practice at Sinai Hospital. For the past five years, he has been chief of orthopedics at Harbor Hospital and Robin threw herself into nonprofit work in Baltimore, first with the Community Law Center. She has served on the boards of Associated Black Charities, Safe and Sound, the Baltimore School for the Arts and the Baltimore Community Foundation boards. In 2008, Robin joined the OSI-Baltimore board of directors. She is also now attending the University Of Maryland School of Law.

Soros groups have had several connections to #BlackLivesMatter organizers and activists.

According to Politico,http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/major-donors-consider-funding-black-lives-matter-215814 the Soros backed group The Democracy Alliance donated to several race-based movement organizations that ally with the #BlackLivesMatter movement.

Internal documents from Missourians Organizing for Reform and Empowerment, a group organizing the protests in Ferguson after the death of Michael Brown, showed activists being paid.

Infowars reported:

…MORE was one of the groups that received a share of the $33 million invested into the #BlackLivesMatter movement by billionaire George Soros.

On Monday, the Balimore Sun http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryla ... story.html reported the 31-year-old agitator Mckesson is making a handsome salary courtesy of Baltimore school district taxpayers.

In his new role, Mckesson is earning a salary of $165,000 as the district’s third chief of human capital in two years, and manage of a budget of $4 million and 56 employees.

After being appointed last month, Mckesson said he was ready to get to work.

“At its core, this role is about finding great people, matching them to the right role, and helping them to develop and experience careers in the service of our kids,” he said. “I am excited to return to city schools … and to continue doing the work to ensure that every child in Baltimore City receives a world-class education.”


http://thomasdishaw.com/2016/07/blm-lea ... rd-member/

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:06 pm
by DrEvil
^^Some great people you listen to backtoiam.
Here's one of his tweets:
BLM CLOWN DeGAY McKesson Arrested...HAHAHHA

https://twitter.com/thomasdishaw/status ... 9200812032

Not that I expected anything else from you. Right wing and racist shit seems to be your forte.

On-topic: Oh no! He lives in a house owned by someone who was at one point associated with Open Society. SO FUCKING WHAT?! Seriously: Are you suggesting that Soros was involved in the shootings somehow?

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:12 pm
by Luther Blissett
As a renter. From people who once donated to a charity.

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:13 pm
by Luther Blissett
He is also not a leader.

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:17 pm
by Luther Blissett
Also, what is a "far-left non-profit," and how is Open Society one?

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:24 pm
by backtoiam
DrEvil » Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:06 pm wrote:^^Some great people you listen to backtoiam.
Here's one of his tweets:
BLM CLOWN DeGAY McKesson Arrested...HAHAHHA

https://twitter.com/thomasdishaw/status ... 9200812032

Not that I expected anything else from you. Right wing and racist shit seems to be your forte.

On-topic: Oh no! He lives in a house owned by someone who was at one point associated with Open Society. SO FUCKING WHAT?! Seriously: Are you suggesting that Soros was involved in the shootings somehow?



Did you go to the OSI website and look at Dr. Woods smiling face? https://www.osibaltimore.org/author/robinjimmywood/

I didn't write that article I just reported it. I post here in good faith and I don't obsess on anybody or any group. I don't pick on Soros he just happens to be like a jack in the box right now because of the situation. If I posted everything I see about him everyday it would be a Soros posta-thon. l posted this because it is very pertinent to what is happening right now. I figured that would cause a dog whistle effect and I can assure that I don't care and I won't react to it and this is my final word on the matter. You won't drag me into a bickering match.

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:26 pm
by 82_28
Cordelia » Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:28 am wrote:
MacCruiskeen » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:10 pm wrote:It's a mistake anyone could make, after all. Nobody's perfect.

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Parking Garage, interior

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El Centro College, interior

Police Chief David 'DaDa' Brown wrote:"For days, we thought we had been negotiating with the cornered suspect in a gigantic windy neon-lit concrete shell half-filled with hundreds of parked automobiles. Only when the Fog of War finally cleared, four days later, did we realise we had in fact been negotiating with him in a narrow but tastefully-furnished college corridor lined with classrooms. Not a car in sight.sir, no. Not one. Yes, that's where we blew him up with a robot bomb, I think. In the corridor there. Or it might have been in a ladies' restroom or in the Mayor's office. And I'll thank you not to second-guess the police during what is a difficult and emotionally challenging time for all of us."


Exactly, just a communication error any high-ranking professional in a large metropolitan police department like Keystone Dallas.could easily make!

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The robot easily navigated to his exact location. Technology these days, I tell ya. I never cease to be amazed. :moresarcasm

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:31 pm
by MacCruiskeen
backtoiam wrote: l posted this because it is very pertinent to what is happening right now.


Like hell it is. It is irrelevant, a threadstretcher and a timewaster. QED.

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Back on topic: Can anyone find an on-the-record police statement as to where exactly the alleged shooter was trapped and killed? On which floor of which building, in which room or which corridor, in exactly what kind of inaccessible nook or cranny?

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:43 pm
by backtoiam
"Like hell it is. It is irrelevant, a threadstretcher and a timewaster. QED."

The reason I believe it is relevant is because BLM pretends to be a little poor grass roots organic organization that simply sprang up on its own power and that is far from the truth. It was engineered with big money to serve the function it now serves. If it were Koch, Thiel, Gates that built this astroturf organization I would still post it.

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:50 pm
by 0_0
This may or may not be relevant:

Sat Aug 23, 2008 thegovernmentflu wrote:
What if the explanations for Building 7 are deliberately shoddy, in an attempt to keep political dissidents focused on what basically amounts to a non-issue in the grand scheme of current world politics?

Sat Aug 23, 2008 Eldritchwrote:
That is a brilliant observation, in my opinion.

Sat Aug 23,2008 Jeff wrote:
Likewise. And the same re the Pentagon and Rumsfeld's early "misspeak" of missile, and the farcical foot-dragging on the release of crappy security cam images.


from this thread about the final WTC 7 report: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=19881&start=45

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:53 pm
by Wombaticus Rex
backtoiam » Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:43 pm wrote:"Like hell it is. It is irrelevant, a threadstretcher and a timewaster. QED."

The reason I believe it is relevant is because BLM pretends to be a little poor grass roots organic organization that simply sprang up on its own power and that is far from the truth. It was engineered with big money to serve the function it now serves. If it were Koch, Thiel, Gates that built this astroturf organization I would still post it.


1) It's not relevant, you're baiting people and admitted as much already. That's not "good faith," bud.

2) Your grasp of this ecosystem seems rather poor. Big money goes to proven concepts; #BLM is both a grassroots phenomenon originally, and a well-funded brand name currently. There is seldom any need to fabricate assets from the ground up when there is such an abundant spectrum of existing options available to discriminating oligarch.

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:56 pm
by Spiro C. Thiery
If the shooting affects BLM, then BLM is relevant. If BLM is relevant, then other things that affect it in the similar ways the the Dallas shootings do are relevant as well, though I can see how one might not want to get too far afield. Perhaps the fraud that is Mckesson deserves its own thread.



Made Man in a Blue Vest: Deray McKesson Is Debutante At Aspen One-Percenters Coming Out Party
by BAR managing editor Bruce A. Dixon

Deray McKesson, a Teach For America trojan horse who inserted himself into the Black Lives Matter Movement was one of the panelists at the Aspen Institutes's annual “ideas festival,” a social event where one percenters showcase their current crop of “thought leaders.” For the dude in the blue vest it was a kind of debutante ball, one of the official coming out parties that mark him as one of corporate America's made men.

It's been a good spring and summer so far for Teach For America alum Deray McKesson. After raising a ton of out of town money the dude in the blue vest finished sixth in the Baltimore mayoral election with a mere 2% of the vote. He was promptly awarded a six figure yearly salary as “interim chief of human capital,” the current term of art for personnel department directors. And last weekend, he was one of the headliners at the annual Aspen Ideas Festival.

When the Aspen Institute flies you to Colorado for the weekend to rub shoulders with the elite, hands you that honorarium check and lauds you as an example of up and coming leadership, it means you’re in. If it's your first time, and last weekend was Deray McKesson's first time at Aspen, it's your debutante ball, marking your coming out, or maybe going in among the one percenters. Aspen signifies that your bones are made, your reservation is confirmed and you're now officially a made man.

The Aspen Ideas Festival is a production of the Aspen Institute, which claims to be an “international nonprofit dedicated to fostering enlightened leadership and open minded dialog through seminars, conferences, policy programs and leadership training...” Former federal reserve chair Paul Volcker, retired Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Connor and Henry the Christmas Bomber Kissinger are among the Aspen Institute’s list of “lifetime trustees.” Madeline Albright, the Clinton secretary of state who pronounced the half million Iraqi children who perished thanks to the 1990s blockade of medical supplies and food (euphemistically called "sanctions") levied by US upon Iraq a fair price to pay for weakening Saddam's regime. Dude in the blue vest might find himself white water rafting at Aspen with Miguel Bezos, the father of Amazon’s Jeff Bezos, who is with Albright an active Aspen trustee. The Aspen crowd is the Democratic party wing of the one-percenter ruling class with some token Republicans thrown in because elite Democrats, seeing Republicans as their peers, are always fond of bipartisanship.

McKesson was billed as one of the founders and leading figures of the Black Lives Matter Movement. In that capacity he spoke on a “Black Lives Matter” panel. He also did panel appearances on “Rebuilding Trust Between Police and Communities of Color” and “What the 2016 Election Is Teaching Us About A Changing America.” He gave an interview to USA Today in which he warned the Democrats that dissatisfied people would be protesting at the convention. He pronounced Hillary Clinton NOT the lesser of two evils, but instead a candidate people are “rightly concerned about running against another candidate who IS evil,” a formulation which fully justifies his support of Hillary and his willingness to serve in a Clinton administration if asked, perhaps as a way to "hold her accountable."

Contrary to its hype, Aspen's Ideas Fest is not about “big ideas.” Aspen is about “big people.” Aspen is one of the social occasions where, if you're invited, you can get actual face time with the one percent of the one percent. You can hike a trail along with a Bank of America president or one of the senior partners at Booz Allen Hamilton, the accountants for the Pentagon and Department of Homeland Security. And Aspen also provides video and mic time to "thought leaders" usable for distribution to their "thought followers," and showing them in the presence of other Big People, which kind of pumps up the stature of the thought leader too. Aspen is about big people having a good time up in the mountains with other big people, flattering each other for their supposed “big ideas,” and pretending they all deserve their privileges and their power because American society as we all know is a meritocracy.

Only it's not a meritocracy and never has been. As Brother D said a while back, America was built, we understand, with stolen labor on stolen land. The one percent decided a long time ago that we don't deserve quality public educations, stable neighborhoods, living wages, retirement security or affordable health care. The one percent use occasions like Aspen to appoint and promote what they call “thought leaders,” a term that means exactly what it says. The job of this “thought leader” in the blue vest is to distract and dissemble about “holding Hillary accountable” a little while longer before joining the chorus of hacks who will urge African Americans, one of the Democratic party's main captive constituencies back into the trunk of Hillary's car, where their votes will be counted but their just demands ignored as usual.

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:03 pm
by MacCruiskeen
^^ Seconded, WR and [on edit] Spiro. DeRay McKesson is a self-publicist and an assiduous polisher of his own brand (note That Windcheater in all weathers). This does not discredit BLM, which can be supported or opposed, used or misused, infiltrated or misdirected, by anyone and everyone, just like any other grassroots movement..

Anyway, if there isn't already a BLM thread, one should be started now. This isn't it.

Re: 7/7 Dallas Shooting

Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:11 pm
by Luther Blissett
backtoiam » Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:43 pm wrote:"Like hell it is. It is irrelevant, a threadstretcher and a timewaster. QED."

The reason I believe it is relevant is because BLM pretends to be a little poor grass roots organic organization that simply sprang up on its own power and that is far from the truth. It was engineered with big money to serve the function it now serves. If it were Koch, Thiel, Gates that built this astroturf organization I would still post it.


You can't just believe everything you read. Black Lives Matter started the way every other activist group I've ever attended a meeting with started, as an organic grassroots group.

Why would we meet in the back room of a public coffeeshop with no air conditioning and no refreshments if we were getting all of some billionaire's money? Why would I have to cut my poster print runs down and cut every corner with overstock paper donations and ganged up press jobs to get down to whatever tiny amount we can scavenge by passing a hat around just to pay for ink if we were getting all of some billionaire's money? Why do we teach adult literacy in the library until the library shuts down?