Hillary Clinton's grandmother gambit BBC News 20 Feb 2015
"One of the few times Mrs Clinton showed a more personal side was when she choked up while talking about why she was running for president - and it resulted in an overnight boost in her fortunes.
"Some people think elections are a game, lot's of who's up or who's down," she said. "It's about our country, it's about our kids' futures, and it's really about all of us together."
At this rate, I think I will seek a lobotomy before the next election season. I can't believe it is eight years (well 7 plus change) already.
Re: Please Don’t Run, Hillary
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:38 am
by 8bitagent
My fellow li'bruls will say "well yeah the two party system sucks, but we need to rally behind Clinton and hope for 2020"...nope.
nope. nope. nope. I'll take a page out of Rush limpdick Limbaugh and say vote for Jeb Bush at that point. Bush vs Clinton 2016? THEY are laughing at us. It isnt progressive or feminist to vote for Hillary anymore than itd be to vote Condi Rice into the presidency. I will go out of my way to urge people not to vote, or vote for Bush. Just as a kind of anarchist middle finger to the whole process. Though seeing the powerful new movie Selma reminds me that non voting/voter apathy is something not to be taken lightly. But fuck. If it is Bush v Clinton in 2016, I hope thinking people just say fuck it. Even if it means Jeb wins. Hell, my own personal life even as a far leftist progressive, was always better I felt under Republican rule
Re: Please Don’t Run, Hillary
Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:41 am
by 8bitagent
I can already forsee the Buzzfeed addled "feminists" and hipster trendoids telling us how we're evil and anti progressive if we don't vote for Shillary Clinton in 2016.
You know some real progressive women who deserve the post more? Uh, Cynthia Mckinney. Maybe even Liz Warren.
Re: Please Don’t Run, Hillary
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 3:26 pm
by RocketMan
Aaand she does. With that Everyman Vibe (tm) she exudes from every pore anyway.
Re: Please Don’t Run, Hillary
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 6:05 pm
by Grizzly
Aaand she does.
Re: Please Don’t Run, Hillary
Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:30 pm
by Project Willow
Penetrative logo. Not up, but to the right.
She just so reminds me of my mother. *cringe*
Re: Please Don’t Run, Hillary
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:00 am
by 82_28
I am so not looking forward to this. Even at this early stage it makes me feel a little sick to my stomach. In my eyes, the only people "with a chance" who I would get behind are Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders. I honestly don't want to see another "debate".
Re: Please Don’t Run, Hillary
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:35 am
by zangtang
Don't think anyone can face yet another dredging of Whitewater (oh deep f*&%ing joy!)
- but could stand a rehash of the Vince Foster greatest hits,
esp. long forgotten & underrated classic 'why is there a big hole in the carpet?
certainly hungry for more chinese pork belly futures contracts extraordinary profits.....
but maybe that was just a smear......
dont suppose it much matters.
Re: Please Don’t Run, Hillary
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:43 am
by Elvis
Why Jerry Brown should run for president
Why shouldn't California Gov. Jerry Brown be at the center of presidential talk? (Getty Images)
By Kevin Modesti, Los Angeles Daily News
Posted: 03/27/15, 1:53 PM PDT |
On “Meet the Press” last Sunday, Jerry Brown said again that he won’t run for president in 2016.
And showed why he should.
Everyone seems to accept that he shouldn’t, for several reasons: Because Hillary Clinton is a shoo-in for the Democratic nomination. Because Brown is a three-time presidential loser (1976, 1980, 1992). Because California needs him to concentrate on being governor. Mostly, because he’s 76 years old.
Now, five reasons he ought to:
• Hillary Clinton needs a primary-season sparring partner. Who better than the man who toughened up Bill Clinton by scrapping all the way to the convention in ’92? Other forces will pull Hillary to the left, and Brown could pull her to the center. If you saw Brown tell NBC’s Chuck Todd that climate-change denier Ted Cruz is “unfit” for office, you know what a blunt critic he is.
• Age dulls and corrupts many politicians, but it has made Brown better. He has gone from the butt of jokes as the nation’s youngest governor to a voice of reason, commanding bipartisan respect, as its oldest. If a man with an impressive record of standing up to his own party to rein in the state budget doesn’t deserve to run for president, who does?
• California could use a turn in the national spotlight. The state hasn’t produced a presidential contender since, actually, Brown in 1992. We should have a voice in the national debates about climate and immigration.
• California would be fine with Brown in Iowa and New Hampshire. Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom will run for governor in 2018. Let’s give him a test drive. Maybe he’d do Brown an uninvited favor and cancel the bullet train.
• Brown knows he wouldn’t win, and he seems at peace with that. It’s the ones who are desperate to be president, and believe the nation needs them to be president, whom we have to watch out for. After saying he’d probably run if he were 10 years younger, Brown noted that this is “counterfactual.” Imagine a presidential candidate who’s knows counterfactual when he sees it.
Run, Jerry, run.
Kevin Modesti is a Los Angeles News Group editorial writer.
Hillary Clinton's grandmother gambit BBC News 20 Feb 2015
"One of the few times Mrs Clinton showed a more personal side was when she choked up while talking about why she was running for president - and it resulted in an overnight boost in her fortunes.
"Some people think elections are a game, lot's of who's up or who's down," she said. "It's about our country, it's about our kids' futures, and it's really about all of us together."
After much reflection on your pithy reaction, I was hoping to summarize the major elements of this Clintonian complex political system, with the clarity of Alice, but to be honest, I struggled. This was a case where actually the words mattered less than heart-stopping emotions, deeply affecting images and music, which say so much about Mrs Clinton and capture her true substance.
Re: Please Don’t Run, Hillary
Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:43 pm
by norton ash
It won't be her. Maybe Brown, maybe Biden, long-shot that it might be Warren... but it won't be Hillary. She's toting way too much baggage already before the opposition even starts with the damnable history of the Ozark Borgias.
This is going to be the grimmest puppet show ever.
