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Re: Canadians carrying the anti-Semitic ‘disease’!
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:58 am
by jakell
JMG has become one of my go-to guys over the last few years and I find myself quoting him a lot. This is slightly embarrassing for me as I've always been an eclectician and try to source ideas from widely varying sources, but I'm also practical and try to take things as I find them.
I never really got into his 'Green Wizard' phase possibly because I've been pretty handy in this department for many years, but I understood his encouragement to be more
consciously so.
After his GW phase he plunged into a series on Peak oil and 'magic' which turned out to be more my sort of thing. I later realised that he often moves between the two realms with barely a pause for breath.
http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.co.u ... llacy.html
Re: Canadians carrying the anti-Semitic ‘disease’!
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:35 am
by American Dream
American Dream » Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:28 am wrote:
Yes, Israeli Apartheid is horrible- but it will never give boneheads, holocaust deniers, and others of their ilk a free pass. What is needed is an expansion and deepening of our political/economic thinking, one which consistently critiques neo-Colonialism, Racism and all the rest and instead struggles towards societies based on post-patriarchal, post-capitalist, post-imperialist, post-racist and etc., values.
The far right is totatlly fucked, and will never lead us forward...
Re: Canadians carrying the anti-Semitic ‘disease’!
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:00 am
by coffin_dodger
What's the continual promotion of their current rise and rise all about, then? Why are you plastering this board with their images, stories and hatred, if they are
fucked?
Re: Canadians carrying the anti-Semitic ‘disease’!
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:05 am
by American Dream
coffin_dodger » Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:00 am wrote:
What's the continual promotion of their current rise and rise all about, then? Why are you plastering this board with their images, stories and hatred, if they are
fucked?
There is a definite need for more and better critical consciousness about the infiltration of the far right into conspiracy culture- especially "neither right nor left" type scams-
including here at Rigorous Intuition.
Re: Canadians carrying the anti-Semitic ‘disease’!
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:29 am
by jakell
coffin_dodger » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:00 pm wrote:
What's the continual promotion of their current rise and rise all about, then? Why are you plastering this board with their images, stories and hatred, if they are
fucked?
I think you answered your own question a while back...
coffin_dodger » Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:46 pm wrote:This thread is some kind of fascist-fetishist wet dream. Burly, angry white men in action poses, swastikas, Hitler, horror and hatred. Exuded from every sweaty pore.
A fetish doesn't need any justification. Add a 'moral crusade' type flavour to it and it's unstoppable.
Re: Canadians carrying the anti-Semitic ‘disease’!
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:42 am
by Sounder
Yes, Israeli Apartheid is horrible- but it will never give boneheads, holocaust deniers, and others of their ilk a free pass. What is needed is an expansion and deepening of our political/economic thinking, one which consistently critiques neo-Colonialism, Racism and all the rest and instead struggles towards societies based on post-patriarchal, post-capitalist, post-imperialist, post-racist and etc., values.
The far right is totatlly fucked, and will never lead us forward...
No shit Sherlock, and neither will the far left.
Woah, -quoting----yourself?
Yes, Israeli Apartheid is horrible, yet here you seem to identify with Israeli Apartheid in its being required as a force needed to not give a free pass to, ‘boneheads, holocaust deniers, and others of their ilk.
(Yes, I realize this can be read in another way, so the rhetoric is unfair)
News flash AD, there are people with actual moral standing (who do not practice institutional genocide), that do not ‘give a free pass to the ‘ilk’ you so carelessly lump so many people into. And in addition, punching their ticket rather than yours does not require the destabilization of nations via George Soros style NGO’s that create cartoon ‘socialist revolutionaries’.
What is needed is an expansion and deepening of our political/economic thinking, one which consistently critiques neo-Colonialism, Racism and all the rest and instead struggles towards societies based on post-patriarchal, post-capitalist, post-imperialist, post-racist and etc., values.
True that, but how do we get there? You say (or AD says, because AD has me on ignore) that the State and Capital are central, whereas I say that our split model and the coercion enabled by this model are central. In my opinion, using capital and the state as imperatives or central drivers is materialistic in essence and serves to lessen consideration of the role of consciousness in the development of chains of causation.
Anyway I see AD’s program as being in support of globalism, -neo-colonialism writ large.
Of course the natives are all suspect.
Re: Canadians carrying the anti-Semitic ‘disease’!
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:02 am
by Wombaticus Rex
The World Cup has really driven home the sheer insanity of our global Tower of Babbletron. Things get far more complicated, and harder to digitally translate, once we venture outside of the Latin alphabet. I know from daily experience that while online translators manage an increasingly passable quick/dirty cheat between Latin languages, they call apart into comedy once you pivot towards Asia.
RI language club or what? I need to learn French.
Re: Canadians carrying the anti-Semitic ‘disease’!
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:29 am
by Zombie Glenn Beck
Wombaticus Rex » Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:02 am wrote:The World Cup has really driven home the sheer insanity of our global Tower of Babbletron. Things get far more complicated, and harder to digitally translate, once we venture outside of the Latin alphabet. I know from daily experience that while online translators manage an increasingly passable quick/dirty cheat between Latin languages, they call apart into comedy once you pivot towards Asia.
RI language club or what? I need to learn French.
Id be down for a language club.
Re: Canadians carrying the anti-Semitic ‘disease’!
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:05 pm
by Zombie Glenn Beck
https://www.duolingo.com/
This is a good starter website for any language. It wont get you conversational, but its probably the best free method to learn the basics.
Re: Canadians carrying the anti-Semitic ‘disease’!
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:40 pm
by Wombaticus Rex
The company I work for said they'd get me Rosetta Stone, but they say a lot of things. That was at least 5 months ago now.
There has been so much fantastic French horror and sci-fi cinema that I am hoping a simple immersion will do me good. Speaking of linguistic mutations, learning "French" 40 miles from Quebec is kind of doomed, because holy shit, they're speaking something else up there. Still, I want to enjoy Quebec City at least once without feeling like an unwelcome alien.
jakell -- thank you for the reminder on the Archdruid Report, I bet there are many months of quality material there for me to catch up on. Rather wish I'd been doing that yesterday instead of watching pro wrestling and doing copywriting shitwork.
Re: Canadians carrying the anti-Semitic ‘disease’!
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:01 pm
by jakell
Wombaticus Rex » Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:40 pm wrote:The company I work for said they'd get me Rosetta Stone, but they say a lot of things. That was at least 5 months ago now.
There has been so much fantastic French horror and sci-fi cinema that I am hoping a simple immersion will do me good. Speaking of linguistic mutations, learning "French" 40 miles from Quebec is kind of doomed, because
holy shit, they're speaking something else up there. Still, I want to enjoy Quebec City at least once without feeling like an unwelcome alien.
jakell -- thank you for the reminder on the Archdruid Report, I bet there are many months of quality material there for me to catch up on. Rather wish I'd been doing that yesterday instead of watching pro wrestling and doing copywriting shitwork.
The one I linked to above is the start of a 20 post series on magic which takes some unexpected turns, and which I recommend (it's not what you think).
That one's lightweight though compared to last year's series on religion which is 40+ posts long and is a real trip (again, it's not what you think). That one starts on 27/3/13 (we Brits write dates that way around)
Re: Canadians carrying the anti-Semitic ‘disease’!
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:35 pm
by American Dream
Wow- I have to rethink everything now- Here I thought we had a small crew crew of clowns generating resistance towards what should be ABC type stuff because some of them held "neither right nor left" beliefs that were actually a cover for a sympathy towards what most anyone would call extreme right wing beliefs, but they didn't want to admit it. Now, I see we actually have: great ecologists, psychoanalysts, intellectually giant philosophers, anti-racist social justice advocates and other such highly evolved individuals in our midst.
How could I have ever thought that jakell or any of those allied with him or bluenoseclaret might secretly harbor reactionary beliefs?
Re: Canadians carrying the anti-Semitic ‘disease’!
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:49 pm
by brainpanhandler
American Dream » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:35 pm wrote:Wow- I have to rethink everything now- Here I thought we had a small crew crew of clowns generating resistance towards what should be ABC type stuff because some of them held "neither right nor left" beliefs that were actually a cover for a sympathy towards what most anyone would call extreme right wing beliefs, but they didn't want to admit it. Now, I see we actually have: great ecologists, psychoanalysts, intellectually giant philosophers, anti-racist social justice advocates and other such highly evolved individuals in our midst.
How could I have ever thought that jakell or any of those allied with him or bluenoseclaret might secretly harbor reactionary beliefs?
Think of them as an essential part of the ecology of the place, sort of like bacteria. bacteria on a micro scale are complicated critters, some good, some bad, some essential. A healthy immune system can fend off most bacterial infections. Occasionally when an infection becomes systemic and non-conventional methods fail to control the infection antibiotics may be necessary, but they should be used sparingly and certainly not in perpetuity as prophylaxis. That is detrimental to the organism. There needs to be some trust in healthy self regulation of the organism. Vigilance too.
Re: Canadians carrying the anti-Semitic ‘disease’!
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:57 pm
by American Dream
brainpanhandler » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:49 pm wrote:American Dream » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:35 pm wrote:Wow- I have to rethink everything now- Here I thought we had a small crew crew of clowns generating resistance towards what should be ABC type stuff because some of them held "neither right nor left" beliefs that were actually a cover for a sympathy towards what most anyone would call extreme right wing beliefs, but they didn't want to admit it. Now, I see we actually have: great ecologists, psychoanalysts, intellectually giant philosophers, anti-racist social justice advocates and other such highly evolved individuals in our midst.
How could I have ever thought that jakell or any of those allied with him or bluenoseclaret might secretly harbor reactionary beliefs?
Think of them as an essential part of the ecology of the place, sort of like bacteria. bacteria on a micro scale are complicated critters, some good, some bad, some essential. A healthy immune system can fend off most bacterial infections. Occasionally when an infection becomes systemic and non-conventional methods fail to control the infection antibiotics may be necessary, but they should be used sparingly and certainly not in perpetuity as prophylaxis. That is detrimental to the organism. There needs to be some trust in healthy self regulation of the organism. Vigilance too.
Actually, this is
exactly how I think of it, with the exception of having less faith in the self-regulating mechanisms. I see exaggerated growth in pathogenic vectors as a sign of a weak immune mechanism in general.
I suppose I've got personal feelings about this because I've seen more than one person slip off into bigoted beliefs and wingnuttery-
when they really should know better- and wacko/reactionary conspiracy culture was an integral part of that process. I don't think it can wholly be blamed for chronic mental imbalance, but it sure don't help!
Re: Canadians carrying the anti-Semitic ‘disease’!
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:05 pm
by jakell
This sort of stuff is actually quite amusing once one has taken a step back. I feel sorry for those who have roots here though.