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Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:59 am
by Elvis
Paddock was found dead. Is it certain that he was the shooter? If not, though, question is, why kill dozens of people and blame it on Paddock?

The 'lifestyle' sure fits a spook. On the other hand, I once knew a professional gambler pretty well, he moved to Las Vegas for part of the year, made his money and returned home (fwit this guy was definitely not a spy).

So the gambler story could be true. But the house always wins, and maybe he incurred debts?

I'd say "brain tumor" but he was already kinda weird.

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:00 am
by semper occultus
internal audit would be a pretty good cover - they travel alot out to branch offices where they sit in the corner "auditing" - none of the locals would know what they were actually doing - hand back the ledgers & fly off again

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:07 am
by km artlu
There's video of a young woman, in LV for her 21st birthday, describing an incident she personally witnessed. A woman pushing her way to the stage-front...telling those around her "You're all going to die tonight". This woman was subsequently "escorted out by security".

Whatever I may have learned about reading people tells me that birthday girl is telling the truth. Did security personnel file a report? Have they been interviewed by investigators? If so, I haven't seen or heard any mention of it.

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:24 am
by stickdog99
Elvis » 03 Oct 2017 06:59 wrote:Paddock was found dead. Is it certain that he was the shooter? If not, though, question is, why kill dozens of people and blame it on Paddock?

The 'lifestyle' sure fits a spook. On the other hand, I once knew a professional gambler pretty well, he moved to Las Vegas for part of the year, made his money and returned home (fwit this guy was definitely not a spy).

So the gambler story could be true. But the house always wins, and maybe he incurred debts?

I'd say "brain tumor" but he was already kinda weird.
Spook, I'll buy. But what makes anyone think Paddock is anything but a convenient "two birds with one stone" victim?

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:06 am
by semper occultus
depends how convincing the motive they manage to come up with is - financial, psychiatric or ideological

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:13 am
by Pele'sDaughter
My daughter-in-law floated the theory that his room was simply co-opted, he was killed, and someone else did the shooting. That scenario might make sense in light of speculation he's a "retired" spook, but, frankly, she seems in danger of going full-on Alex Jones on with this incident. I would think all of those surveillance cameras would help unravel the mystery unless the crucial ones weren't working that night. :wink:

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:10 am
by American Dream
Alex Jones blames leftists, Communists, globalists, ISIS, antifa for Las Vegas shootings

Based on his “own intel” and his “own research,” a revolution is starting. He mentions his CIA and pentagon contacts, without citing any names, in a later video from his Infowars studio.

To Jones, this is just another example of the left starting violent revolution in collusion with Islamic terrorists, citing “racial divides” that are coming from peaceful protests to police violence, and self analysis as a country regarding civil war statues.

“Anything to get the right wing going,” he says. But don’t worry, “The leftists plan to double cross the Muslims down the road,” he says.
https://www.salon.com/2017/10/02/alex-jones-las-vegas/

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:27 pm
by seemslikeadream
According to ABC News, sources said Paddock has sent “tens of thousands” of dollars to someone in the Philippines in recent months

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:32 pm
by JackRiddler
You could say, Jones doing his usual asshole thing, but in this stage it looks more than ever like he is playing a function, doing his job. Judgement is never reserved, maximal hypotheses and emotional ladings proliferate, all facts are spun to the opposite and back, clarity is rendered impossible, blind rage is amped to 11 all the time, familiar targets are named and repeated. Some principles of confusionism, Jones as a professional.

Morally Jones' intervention is on a par with that of "ISIS" (claiming Paddock as one of their own, hoping to set off copycats). Intellectually it's even lower, because "ISIS" has more of a grasp of making sense.

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:25 pm
by minime
Jack Riddler!

And where's Mac?


It's all true. They're out to get you.

Better to believe there's some kind of design to it all I guess, more than just blind chaos.

With that in mind... Wombaticus Rex, you have interesting associates.

Actually.

Just 7 billion more and your fondest wishes will have come true. Godspeed.

How come I don't have friends who make silencers.

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:49 pm
by DrEvil
seemslikeadream » Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:27 pm wrote:According to ABC News, sources said Paddock has sent “tens of thousands” of dollars to someone in the Philippines in recent months
Could be as simple as sending money to his girlfriend (wasn't she in the Philippines when this happened?), or her family.

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:03 pm
by seemslikeadream
While her boyfriend rained bullets on Las Vegas concertgoers, Marilou Danley was traveling with friends half a world away in Japan or her native Philippines, authorities now say.

Danley, who lived with the killer Stephen Paddock, was initially dubbed by authorities as an "associate" of the Las Vegas shooter, partly because her ID had been reportedly used by Paddock to secure the 32nd floor room at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino from which he killed 59 people and injured more than 500 in the worst mass murder in U.S. history.

Law enforcement contacted Paddock’s friends and family, and Danley, 62, was cleared of any involvement in the shooting, but her exact whereabouts remain unclear. An Australian daily, the Courier Mail, reported that she left for the Philippines two weeks ago. Friends contacted by the paper corroborated statements from Australia’s Foreign Ministry that said Danley, once a 20-year resident of Australia who has lived in Nevada since 2003, was in the Philippines.
http://www.newsweek.com/vegas-shooters- ... ate-676353
Las Vegas Shooter Wired $100,000 to Philippines Last Week
by TOM WINTER, JONATHAN DIENST, PETE WILLIAMS and ANDREW BLANKSTEIN
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Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock wired $100,000 to an account in his live-in girlfriend’s home country of the Philippines in the week before he unleashed the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history, according to multiple senior law enforcement officials.

But while officials have confirmed that Marilou Danley was in the Philippines on Sunday when Paddock opened fire on a crowd attending a country music festival on the Vegas Strip, it was not known whether the money was for her, her family, or another purpose.
https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-v ... ek-n807141

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:05 pm
by stillrobertpaulsen
DrEvil » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:49 pm wrote:
seemslikeadream » Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:27 pm wrote:According to ABC News, sources said Paddock has sent “tens of thousands” of dollars to someone in the Philippines in recent months
Could be as simple as sending money to his girlfriend (wasn't she in the Philippines when this happened?), or her family.
According to NBC, it was $100,000. Last week.
Oct 3 2017, 1:34 pm ET
Las Vegas Shooter Wired $100,000 to Philippines Last Week

by Tom Winter, Jonathan Dienst, Pete Williams and Andrew Blankstein

Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock wired $100,000 to an account in his live-in girlfriend’s home country of the Philippines in the week before he unleashed the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history, according to multiple senior law enforcement officials.

But while officials have confirmed that Marilou Danley was in the Philippines on Sunday when Paddock opened fire on a crowd attending a country music festival on the Vegas Strip, it was not known whether the money was for her, her family, or another purpose.

ImageMarilou Danley is being sought by the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department for questioning in connection with the investigation into the active shooter incident in Las Vegas on Oct. 1, 2017 LVMPD

Danley, 62, who had traveled to Hong Kong on Sept. 25, could fill in some of the blanks when she returns to the U.S. on Wednesday, the officials said. Her arrival airport was not known.

Investigators believe the couple started dating in spring 2017 and lived together in Mesquite, Nevada.

Danley was not believed to be involved in the shooting "at this time," law enforcement officials told reporters on Monday.

"We have had conversations with her and we believed her, at this time, not to be involved. But obviously that investigation will continue,” Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo said. "She was not with [Paddock] when he checked in. We have discovered he was utilizing some of her identification."

Danley was initially thought to be traveling with Paddock in Las Vegas. But she was not in the 32nd floor room in the Mandalay Bay hotel that Paddock was using when police blew the door off and barged inside 72 minutes after the first 911 call.

Instead, police found Paddock dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound and an arsenal of 23 firearms in the hotel room. They later found 19 more weapons at his Mesquite home.

Investigators still have not determined a motive for the mass murder. The death toll currently stands at 59 but officials have warned that could climb. More than 500 people were wounded.

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:50 pm
by semper occultus
sounds a bit like the $100,000 that got wired before 9/11 :fawked:


anyway from "the deep web" via the good (?) offices of Robert Steele - fwiw

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http://phibetaiota.net/2017/10/robert-s ... anny-scam/

Re: Mass shooting in Las Vegas, 2/10/2017

Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:40 pm
by Wombaticus Rex
km artlu » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:07 am wrote: Whatever I may have learned about reading people tells me that birthday girl is telling the truth. Did security personnel file a report? Have they been interviewed by investigators? If so, I haven't seen or heard any mention of it.
My first thought was that the security team could verify that.

My second thought was that they actually couldn't because this is an active investigation.