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Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:39 pm
by 82_28
I think 4B probably hung out with Cliff and Norm too long last night and Woody overserved him.

Re: .

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:16 pm
by solace
IanEye » Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:16 am wrote:
FourthBase » Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:38 am wrote:


You are an evil ****.
Alice is not evil.
She defends Egypt with all of the passion that you would defend Boston.

It is called righteous indignation.

She has just glorified suicide bombing in a curious twisted exercise to prove ISIS "doesn't exist." That's' not defending Egypt. It's defending something else; something most rational people would call evil.

Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:26 pm
by 82_28
I didn't read what she said that way at all. ISIS is stupid and bullshit, for sure. But their appeal I think comes from the commoners who are being seduced by something. I have no fucking idea. But Alice is not evil, perhaps cantankerous a bit about shit like this.

Re: .

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:46 pm
by AlicetheKurious
solace » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:16 pm wrote:She has just glorified suicide bombing in a curious twisted exercise to prove ISIS "doesn't exist." That's' not defending Egypt. It's defending something else; something most rational people would call evil.
Did you even read what I wrote? Or are the voices in your head too loud? Reading comprehension: FAIL.

Re: .

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:55 pm
by solace
AlicetheKurious » Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:46 pm wrote:
solace » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:16 pm wrote:She has just glorified suicide bombing in a curious twisted exercise to prove ISIS "doesn't exist." That's' not defending Egypt. It's defending something else; something most rational people would call evil.
Did you even read what I wrote? Or are the voices in your head too loud? Reading comprehension: FAIL.
I read it just fine. You offered up an extensive apology for suicide bombing/bombers.

Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:02 pm
by Elvis
Nowhere in that post has Alice "glorified suicide bombing"; she explained that sacrificing one's life for one's country "has been celebrated throughout human history as the mark of a hero"—true—and "is highly valued among peoples, and has been throughout history"—also true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_weapon

So who's doing the twisting?

Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:08 pm
by solace
Elvis » Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:02 pm wrote:Nowhere in that post has Alice "glorified suicide bombing"; she explained that sacrificing one's life for one's country "has been celebrated throughout human history as the mark of a hero"—true—and "is highly valued among peoples, and has been throughout history"—also true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_weapon

So who's doing the twisting?
Did you see her CONDEMN it? No.She offered up excuses for it. To lead up to a delusional ideological conclusion about ISIS "not existing," ie being, in reality, Israel and the West. So that would be her and all her delusional backers doing the twisting.

Re: .

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:15 pm
by seemslikeadream
solace » Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:16 pm wrote:
IanEye » Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:16 am wrote:
FourthBase » Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:38 am wrote:


You are an evil ****.
Alice is not evil.
She defends Egypt with all of the passion that you would defend Boston.

It is called righteous indignation.

She has just glorified suicide bombing in a curious twisted exercise to prove ISIS "doesn't exist." That's' not defending Egypt. It's defending something else; something most rational people would call evil.
Paris Atrocity Context: 27 Million Muslim Avoidable Deaths From Imposed Deprivation In 20 Countries Violated By US Alliance Since 9-11

something most rational people would call evil

Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:18 pm
by slomo
Regarding (real or imagined) apologies for terrorism, and the extent to which terrorism is a response to atrocities committed by an asymmetrically powerful actor, I'll just leave this here:

http://www.gwern.net/Terrorism%20is%20n ... t%20Terror
There is comparatively strong theoretical and empirical evidence that people become terrorists not to achieve their organization’s declared political agenda, but to develop strong affective ties with other terrorist members. In other words, the preponderance of evidence is that people participate in terrorist organizations for the social solidarity, not for their political return.

Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:33 pm
by AlicetheKurious
solace » Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:08 pm wrote:Did you see her CONDEMN it? No.She offered up excuses for it. To lead up to a delusional ideological conclusion about ISIS "not existing," ie being, in reality, Israel and the West. So that would be her and all her delusional backers doing the twisting.
JackRiddler asked two questions that I tried to answer as thoughtfully and thoroughly as possible. I don't think the questions were addressed to you, and my answer certainly wasn't.

If there is something I wrote that you dispute, then quote it, and explain why you believe it is wrong. If you can't do that, then keep quiet. Stop the personal attacks, please, and stop derailing this thread and trying to drag it down to your level.

Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:00 pm
by LolaB
^^^ thank you!

Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:05 pm
by solace
AlicetheKurious » Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:33 pm wrote:
solace » Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:08 pm wrote:Did you see her CONDEMN it? No.She offered up excuses for it. To lead up to a delusional ideological conclusion about ISIS "not existing," ie being, in reality, Israel and the West. So that would be her and all her delusional backers doing the twisting.
JackRiddler asked two questions that I tried to answer as thoughtfully and thoroughly as possible. I don't think the questions were addressed to you, and my answer certainly wasn't.

If there is something I wrote that you dispute, then quote it, and explain why you believe it is wrong. If you can't do that, then keep quiet. Stop the personal attacks, please, and stop derailing this thread and trying to drag it down to your level.
In case you hadn't noticed it's a members forum which mean ALL members can and do comment all the time. It's not your private fucking propaganda forum unless Wombat changed the rules. Your narcissism gets worse everyday. Now go ahead and call me "silly," or say you don't have the time to "educate," me like some little kid the way you do with everybody who questions you. But THOSE aren't insults cause Queen Alice uttered them. Pshaw!

Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:08 pm
by 82_28
Just drop it, solace.

Re: Terrorists take Eagles of Death Metal show in Paris host

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:16 pm
by solace
82_28 » Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:08 pm wrote:Just drop it, solace.
No. How bout YOU stop posting anything I don't like. How bout them apples?

Re: .

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:21 pm
by DrEvil
solace » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:16 pm wrote:
IanEye » Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:16 am wrote:
FourthBase » Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:38 am wrote:


You are an evil ****.
Alice is not evil.
She defends Egypt with all of the passion that you would defend Boston.

It is called righteous indignation.

She has just glorified suicide bombing in a curious twisted exercise to prove ISIS "doesn't exist." That's' not defending Egypt. It's defending something else; something most rational people would call evil.
Suicide bomb != terrorist/evil.

If you go into a crowded market place and blow yourself up you're an "evil" ("evil" as in brainwashed) terrorist.

If you go into an army checkpoint belonging to whoever you're at war with and blow yourself up you're fighting with the weapons at your disposal.

FB: You don't seem to have a problem with terrorists when they serve your purpose:
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board2/view ... 88#p574352
Fuck him, I hope he dies as soon as possible, and I hope it's gruesome.