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Percival wrote:

The fuck is this bullshit, Jeff Wells and Trident publishing are using us you say?

This is not at all how I read Kate Dixon's statement... I think you are misinterpreting it.

Percival wrote: Can you tell us why VM lied to us Ms Dixon, telling us all that Rachel was a fake and an ARG actress and wasnt who she said she was?

I don't know that VM lied to you at all. I consider VM to be honest.

Why are you not addressing the CONTENT of John Power's letter and
the issue of why there is a fingerprint booking card dated September 1981 of Jimmy Hughes?

Let's get to the facts of the case, to the Octopus. Ms. Langley, has already, pretty much retired, from posting new facts about it, because she in her own words doesn't want to "screw up" the case for the prosecution. So she is now
irrelvant regarding new information. She is old news as they say in the biz.
It's strange how they let her all hang out, and then put her on the shelf.

Perhaps I should personally investigate her credibility?

Kate Dixon

Kate Dixon wrote:

Percival wrote: Can you tell us why VM lied to us Ms Dixon, telling us all that Rachel was a fake and an ARG actress and wasnt who she said she was?

I don't know that VM lied to you at all. I consider VM to be honest.

Why are you not addressing the CONTENT of John Power's letter and
the issue of why there is a fingerprint booking card dated September 1981 of Jimmy Hughes?

Let's get to the facts of the case, to the Octopus. DESERT FAE, RACHEL BEGLEY, as already, pretty much retired, from posting new facts about it, because she in her own words doesn't want to "screw up" the case for the prosecution. So she is now
irrelvant regarding new information. She is old news as they say in the biz.
It's strange how they let her all hang out, and then put her on the shelf.

Perhaps I should personally investigate her credibility?

Kate Dixon

I am sorry, I made a typo mistake, I meand Desert Fae (Rachel Bogley" in the parargraph starting with "let's get to', and I have corrected here.
Kate Dixon

Kate Dixon wrote: Perhaps I should personally investigate her credibility?

I should think anyone doing investigative journalism with regards to the case against Jimmy Hughes would have already done this.

Also, Jeff's publishing house is Trine Day, not Trident. Let's get the plug right.

It's a little tricky because Anita Langley is now a member of this board, but she should not be considered "off-limits" as far as the discussion goes, as long as it stays within Jeff's guidelines.

Kate Dixon wrote:...I don't know who the other people are really (they use handles)… though I may have found Dr. Doogie as - a book publisher/investigator regarding a lady whose daughter was kidnapped in the Bay Area peninsula...

Close. I am a friend of the family of a girl who was kidnapped in 1973 from Half Moon Bay, CA. I uncovered some information which lead to a reopening of the investigation. When the mother decided to publish her journal of the search, I edited the copy and formatted the files for a self-publishing website. I also wrote one chapter of the book detailing the investigation since I became involved. Though the mother is listed as the sole author, she asked me to include myself on the copyright and to be listed as publisher to allow me to act on her behalf while navigating the self-publishing process.

I know that it serves KD's premise to call me a "book publisher" in order to insinuate that my involvement in this for personal gain, but the more accurate description is that I helped a friend self-publish a book that has, to date, sold 145 copies with all profit going into a fund maintained by the mother to pay for investigative expenses to which I do not have access.

For more details and links about the missing girl:
http://www.searchingforanna.com

I do admit that I am researching the crimes of Phillip Thompson with the (hopefully) end result being a book chronicling how this man operated for years in the shadowy nexus where intelliegence agencies and organized crime are one and the same. And before KD jumps on this as a sign that I am up to no good or in it for profit, I would remind her that her own filings concerning the Betty Cloer autopsy state that she wants the files so that she can write a book about Thomspon herself. And media reports state that Warren Hinckle (a friend of VM's mentor Mae Brussell) was also planning to write a book about Thompson and the Valerie MacDonald murder. (Feel free to refer back to AD's cartoon of the kettle/pot if you need a visual.)

American Dream wrote:It's a little tricky because Anita Langley is now a member of this board, but she should not be considered "off-limits" as far as the discussion goes, as long as it stays within Jeff's guidelines.

Kate Dixon's question, "Perhaps I should personally investigate her credibility?", was in reference to desertfae, I believe.

barracuda wrote:

Kate Dixon wrote: Perhaps I should personally investigate her credibility?

I should think anyone doing investigative journalism with regards to the case against Jimmy Hughes would have already done this.

Also, Jeff's publishing house is Trine Day, not Trident. Let's get the plug right.

Thanks for correcting the name of the publishing house -- I almost got it right.
I think I shall have to go to Riverside to investigate some aspects of the
credibility of Desert and other parties.

Kate Dixon

I just want to know why VM lied, I couldnt give two shits about the rest of this. I dont like journalists who lie. I am a journalist by the way paid, known and published, its what I do for a living and we abide by certain ethics, at least most of us in the professional journalistic world do, I cant attest for you people who call yourself journalists because you have a website.

Kate Dixon wrote: I really don't feel critical of her because if her father was killed then
she can only be expected to be emotional and to be against anyone who
she thinks is not going along with her agenda of bring his killer to
justice or, in this case, to possible lethal injection.

The use of the word "if" was strange. The reason it took Rachel so long to start investigating was because she was under the impression that her dad might be in a witness protection program.

Wanting a murderer brought to trial isn't an agenda. Jimmy Hughes already admitted to being involved. As for the lethal injection part, maybe you can start a new thread on the pros and cons of capital punishment.

THUS, enter
Anita Langley, who is not a witness as far as I can tell, and she, up
in Canada, is now taking on some of Desert's tasks.

Thanks for that information, Anita. You definitely knew exactly where to point me with my questions. I still see no proof that Mr. Seimer was involved with MK Ultra or proposed weapon manufacturing on the Cabazon Reservation. I'm gonna take it slow and steady and not jump to conclusions. I'm also starting to open up a bit to Ted and Mike not being all bad. As a newbie, or more like an intermediate at this point, I still have work to do until I am satisfied I am up to expert status.

I think in due time, these other things will settle down, and maybe likeminded people who want to work through data in a collegiate manner will be able to do so.

who the other people are really (they use handles)… The anonymous ones on RI
and Anita Langley are trying to keep up Desert's point of view going and that includes attacking the credibility of me and VM. Some of them may be interested in writing books and may be proxies of Cherie Seymour and John Powers, potential book writers and movie makers.

Wow, you need to settle down. It's as if the thread isn't going the way you'd like it to, and you're trying to get it locked. If so, a new one can be started anyway. There are certain rules here, where we're not allowed to agent-bait or attack someone's credibility. If you have a suspicion about anyone, you're supposed to email Mr. Wells.

I can't believe you just suggested that Detective Powers or a proxy of his is posting on this thread.

Recently Audioslave, joining in January, started a "Dixon's disbarrment" thread
which flamed out. He admits on this thread that he is doing all he can for
John Powers and the prosecution, thus are they directing him to attempt to
slam my credibility as he tried to do in that thread?

I note no one has talked about the fingerprint card of Hughes in 1981, probably a booking card, or talked about John Power's statement in his
email that he feared he would be killed for investigating the Hughes case, just as deputy MacGowan and his family were killed.

My thread didn't flame out. The big development was the emergence of NMN being directly linked to Reese Jones of Netopia and OneTaste, the latter which has been viewed by many as being a sex cult.

Many of us have been talking about Detective Powers' email, and how he was thrown under the bus. The general question has been aren't journalists supposed to keep their sources to themselves?

As for me, recently on RI, after NMN's last post on Monday re:
Powers, MacGowan and the Hughes 1981 fingerprint card, they tried to
get into whether I had money or a job -- actually I am poor, and I guess maybe they figured that out, and then they went into El Dorado matters, but I was never arrested or detained there, although a judge up there was unhappy I was seeking public records and publishing them. So I guess they figured that out.Then they probably had a pow wow and got their rather big group
together, and went into the disbarment thing, which Langley and Desert
have taken the time to link or publish on their websites, and then one of them
went into one of my relatives in Emeryville and her colorful past and extensive
property holdings there over the years. No one other than themselves are willing to join that parade, because it is really old news and the state bar document they have is so bizarre they can't really use it as they want to.

Not everything is a conspiracy, Ms. Dixon. It's all in the public record what really happened with your disbarment and your claims of an international, satanic, pedophile ring operating out of Emeryville, California.

They hope that a bunch of their stuff about me on the RI board
and on their websites will be picked up by major search engines such
as Google, and that they can flood the internet with discrediting me
and with the stuff they are doing to VM. That is the anatomy -- trying
to get stuff picked up on the www that they want picked up. Michael
Riconosciuto and Ted Gunderson are behind them in this to a large degree.
Although in their cases, a little knowledge is truly a dangerous thing.

For me, I have two basic questions for now. Why is reesejones.com redirecting to NMN? Please explain what it is about Mr. Thompson that makes you believe he is innocent? I am grateful to Ms. Langley for coming up with all those multiple news sources. Now I'm wondering about how the FBI and CIA have been able to get away with classifying documents which could possibly prove Thompson was a company man given the task of setting up Mr. Riconosciuto. I can;t fathom why you are so enamored with Thompson. I don't think even your few allies here have shown support for him. If the best you have is that Ted and Mike are shady, that doesn't matter. Anita has shown the way to getting at the truth.

They are frustrated because NMN is now dominating the internent on the
Hughes case, other than of course the AP stories, one LA times story
and Desert Sun stories. You can google or bing Hughe's name and the
word murder or Cabazon and NMN will pop up mightily.

Search engines are a whole other ball of wax. But congratulations. I think it's very important for NMN to become as big as possible. I think in the long run that will be for the best.

Anything to share on Reese Jones of Netopia? There's really no need to go over the disbarment. Anyone can read it for themselves. It would be nice to see your stuff concerning Emeryville. Especially if there are sources outside yourself which covered the allegations too. I looked and found nothing. I don't think there was any pedophile ring in Emeryville like you proclaimed years ago. I also don't think it's cool to make such allegations with no proof.

The guys and gals on RI can't dominate the web on Hughes. I know that if
I start posting there with them, I will only help get the stuff picked up by
major search engines. I and my website are a bigger keyword than
they are.

That's a good thing, Ms. Dixon.

Michael Riconosciuto is a computer type guy and he is a first class intelligence disinformation expert and genius. He wants to dominate the web with the story of how great he is in regarding to this murder case. If you read a recent post on RI by Anita Langley re: Riconosciuto's activities back then, you will see what role MR wants to play in the murder case --- the white knight in armor on the white horse.

Maybe with a new administration, those classified documents got declassified. Guess we'll all have to be patient and see what happens. In one of those news articles, there was a witness who said Thompson and his buddies had plans to sell weapons or something to the right wing elements in El Salvador. That sounds like an Octopus to me. Maybe Riconosciuto doesn't have the cleanest hands, but at least it appears he didn't kill anyone. Maybe that is one of the big breaks. Maybe it's been proven that Thompson was on the payroll to set up Mike.

He is always walking uphill to be an informant in the various
cases into which he has injected himself -- Hamlin, Thompson, indirectly
Polk -- uphill, because he is a convicted felon and felonies can be used
to impeach a witness.

Is it common for a journalist to end up being on the defense team for a murder trial they were originally reporting on? Got any examples of that? Why do you think Thompson is innocent? He's a rap sheet a mile long. His DNA got matched.

So far, no one has promoted anything about Hughes, except that
before this ever happened, there was a website for his ministry and
various comments about that, all favorable that I could see -- his helping prisoners, addicts, orphans, his confession and redemption, which are
on the web. And that poses a big problem for Michael and for Desert --
who are joined at the hip. And for John Powers, who also joined
them at their hips. The problem is that Hughes' publicity out there is
far better than Michael's, especially for those who buy that Christian
angle. Do you think Michael will let that stand?

I don't know of Hughes having any felony convictions and he is a
"reverend".

Why stick up for a murderer? He already admitted to it. He might not have admitted to being the shooter, but he said he was the bag man. He was in on a triple homicide. There is no statute of limitations on murder. I cannot fathom why a journalist would stick up for that guy. You're supposed to be objective. This is feeling like the Thompson case in a deja vu kind of way. This could be the most outrageous thing you wrote in this post, this defense of such a proven despicable person. Yes, innocent until proven guilty, but you make him out to be some kind of choir boy. Wow.

She provided leads. So she is the
first of this group to go after the Octopus a little, since Desert

Uhm, I may be an anonymous handle, but I definitely got into some Octopus. October Surprise. Some of the other things. I came clean and said I don't believe there is a satanic pedophile angle to it. I am open-minded. Just voicing my opinions as someone who is trying to catch up. This could be the story of the Century, and we're only ten years in.

I would pursue
what Langley said. (Gees, a last name like Langley is quite a hint.)
Her leads are certainly more interesting and relevant than the old lawsuit in Emeryville which I pursued back in the 1990s.

Please don't break one of Mr. Wells' main rules. It'd be a shame for this thread to be locked. They call that agent-baiting. It's all coming out in the wash, Ms. Dixon. Patience,. Grasshopper. Congratulations again on the success of your website. Without a doubt you will make the history books.

Audioslave, you kind of have a grasp of Jeff's guidelines but you kind of don't.

It's a little tricky because they are scattered around in various places here on this board, but you might want to check out the primary sources before you go around quoting chapter and verse.

Kate Dixon wrote:Get it?

No, actually, I don't get it..

I am locking this thread till Jeff has the opportunity to review it. Overspill of this discussion into other threads will end up locked as well. Don't know what exactly is going on in this thread, but I don't like what I'm seeing.

I'm sure Special Agent Wells will pass a sound judgment on all this.

Special Agent Arcadia out.

At 34 pages already, this topic deserves a fresh start in a new thread anyway. I'll create one after locking this again. But boundaries need to be respected to keep the discussion fruitful and to avoid inviting warnings and suspensions. Particularly these two:

It is never appropriate to ask members to identify themselves or to demand bona fides of their benign interest in a topic.

Do not post insinuations or accusations that members are posting in bad faith or willfully disseminating disinformation. If you have concerns, please bring them to me in pm.

If these aren't observed moving forward, there will be accounts suspended.

Now, locking this and creating a new thread....

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