Compare and contrast with the Designated Culprit, Omar Mateen (deceased, of course) -- a darkskinned bisexual Afghan-American, and a well-known regular at the club. And also the loving father of a very small son, whom we are instructed to believe he abandoned without a qualm.
Please provide proof of the quote.
What reliable evidence do you have to prove he was bi?
How do you know he was a loving father?
What first person info do you have to prove all this? Are you psychic? Did you have a personal relationship with the alleged shooter? Did he tell you these things or did you observe him being bi or a loving father? You were quite pleased with yourself to call me out on my earlier comments which I wrote based on crappy info read on the Interent from establishment media. What are your sources?
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Thank you Iamwhoiam for stating the obvious.
These photos seem to make it look like he was a "good" father...
Lynch: "Partial Transcript" Of Orlando 911 Calls Will Have References To Islamic Terrorism Removed
In an interview with NBC's Chuck Todd, Attorney General Loretta Lynch says that on Monday, the FBI will release edited transcripts of the 911 calls made by the Orlando nightclub shooter to the police during his rampage.
"What we're not going to do is further proclaim this man's pledges of allegiance to terrorist groups, and further his propaganda," Lynch said. "We are not going to hear him make his assertions of allegiance [to the Islamic State]."
Re: Orlando / Pulse Mass Shooting Thread
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:04 am
by Nordic
Omg. That's hilarious. "Burial at sea with no photos" hilarious.
Iamwhomiam » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:16 am wrote:
Not sure what you mean about the FBI. He was investigated for other reasons and I am not sure you could say his father was exactly being groomed, more like he was trying to groom himself...
Self-loathing Jews; Self-grooming Muslims?
Re: Orlando / Pulse Mass Shooting Thread
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 1:24 am
by stillrobertpaulsen
I've written a new blog entry - I know it's only been a week (but we sure have learned a lot, haven't we?) - that elaborates on my theory (well, hypothesis to be exact) of the motive for Orlando. It's not about guns, it's not about gays - those issues are tangential, though useful in a culture war/keep the masses warring among themselves manner. It's about Empire Maintenance: do we make changes to Gladio to keep business-as-usual appearances up with Clinton or buck the establishment in a "faster, please" takedown with Trump? Here's the beauty of the plan: they let us decide in November! Isn't that magnanimous? "Laugh about it, shout about it, when you've got to choose...."
Iamwhomiam » 20 Jun 2016 02:16 wrote:I feel that Mateen was not under the influence of the FBI or any other government agency when he decided to commit mass murder. I do believe he was confused about his own sexual identity and loathed himself for having homosexual feelings. We've all seen closeted self-hating homosexual legislators rail on in promoting anti-gay legislation before being exposed or coming out. He killed many homosexuals and assured his own death over being questioned about his sexuality. If he believes he's become a martyr, he must not have believed God is all-knowing.
Many have identified the shooter as the same man who frequented Pulse. Mac, if I gave you the names of 3 who did, what makes you believe their testimony would be believable? Couldn't they all "be in on it"? (How do you manage to decide what is credible evidence over that you decide isn't? Eye witness testimony? Where does the conspiracy begin and where does it end? How can you be sure?)
If our government has been grooming Omar's father to become the next president of Afghanistan, there would be nothing unusual about the FBI meeting with his son to "clear" him.
I just don't see this as suspicious as others do.
Another very sad day in America, where people who have been placed on a 'no fly' list composed of suspected or latent terrorists, can walk into a gun store and buy any quantity of guns and ammunition and walk out to go on a killing spree.
Great analysis. So what do you think motivated the nineteen 9/11 hijackers?
Omar Mateen had been living in Apartment 107 at the Woodland Condominium in Fort Pierce since he was divorced from wife Sitora Yusufiy in 2011. He was living there with the woman believed to be his current wife and mother of their three-year-old son, Noor Zahi Salman.
Daily Mail has obtained photographs inside the killer's apartment, where investigators did a sweep on Sunday.
The walls of the apartment are adorned with photos of Mateen's three-year-old son. Loads of toys including a Spiderman bicycle, toy trucks and Mickey Mouse posters can be seen throughout the two-bedroom home.
What looks like a ceremonial sword sits proudly by the TV set in the living room and workout equipment sits in a corner. Mateen was known to be obsessed with his physique and had taken steroids.
The master bedroom has red sheets on the bed and a bureau is adorned with balloons, photos and bottles of a woman's perfume.
Re: Orlando / Pulse Mass Shooting Thread
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 5:29 am
by SonicG
Don't forget the proves bro!
Re: Orlando / Pulse Mass Shooting Thread
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:09 am
by 82_28
Yeah, I know, I know it's Wayne LaPierre again but what a motherfucking lunatic. . .
. . .Yet again. . .
People in comments at rawstory.com say John Dickerson is a "soft ball" interviewer. I disagree. He was just giving him rope to me. But then again I already have my mind made up as far as the NRA.
Re: Orlando / Pulse Mass Shooting Thread
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:08 am
by MacCruiskeen
Iamwhomiam wrote:Many have identified the shooter as the same man who frequented Pulse.
I don't believe you. Why should I? Why should anyone, when you don't even bother to support that claim with a link or a citation?
Name even one eyewitness who identified Omar Mateen as the shooter, and provide a link.
If you can't, then an apology for your assertion is surely in order. You would expect no less if someone claimed, without providing evidence to support that claim, that you had been positively identified as the shooter by "many" [or even any] eyewitnesses to a mass shooting.
Iamwhomiam wrote:Mac, if I gave you the names of 3 who did [identify the shooter as Omar Mateen]...
One will do. But are you claiming you CAN provide three? Great, Post those names, and those links.
Re: Orlando / Pulse Mass Shooting Thread
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:18 am
by MacCruiskeen
Ffs. One week on:
Do we even know whether the shooter was masked? Has any eyewitness said that he was, or that he wasn't?
Has any eyewitness given even the vaguest physical description of the shooter?
If so, please let me know (let us all know). Let's make this a real group effort. I cannot read every newspaper report in the world or watch every TV news show.
Re: Orlando / Pulse Mass Shooting Thread
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:27 am
by MacCruiskeen
The Fridge of Utter Evil
Same image, enlarged, here. Take a close look at those photos of The Designated Culprit (deceased) and his family.
Re: Orlando / Pulse Mass Shooting Thread
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 8:35 am
by 82_28
Looks like a hive of terrorism to me.
Re: Orlando / Pulse Mass Shooting Thread
Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:10 am
by MacCruiskeen
They pixelate the child's face so that you cannot see how happy he looks.
Meanwhile, at least three young adult women in those photos are exposed unsparingly to the world's gaze.
